Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: CH's are at it again

Ackis
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:46 am
#66

The argument that it's the CH profession forums and I don't belong there is WRONG. First, that petition would have been posted in SWG Discussion had it been there still, which brings me to point 2 which involves the forum revamp. That's how it's supposed to work.



Imperial Captain Ackis Losackego - Über f335h

Aakhperkare
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:26 pm
#67

So the post Pluto9 made has been deleted and this one remains open? Someone'sbiased...rather lame...
Sodan-droiddreamer
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:55 pm
#68






Aakhperkare wrote:





Nailliar wrote:
You all wonder why CH is the most powerful and Easily the most Attention-slathered professsion... The former SWG creative developer and now SOE creative director or some title Holocron was the Pet Developer from his last company and game... AO I believe, could be wrong, I was playing EQ at the time. Any wonder that the man who made pets in his other job would make them so prominent in the next game he worked on and was partially in charge of.?!?!?! I'd say that was a hiring Mis-Match...look at the evidence....P-O-K-E Wars vs. Star Wars and Droids.






Actually, CH is one of the weakest combat professions in the game (if we can be called that). We are weak because CH has to be supplimented with another combat profession, or 9 times out of 10, our pets will die without help...




Thats the largest load of crap I've seen all day. Do not attempt to flush that monster.




Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)
Sodan-droiddreamer
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:57 pm
#69






Shian_Tavkin wrote:

If you don't like CH ignore them?


If only that were possible !! Sad truth however is they are everywhere, and you only have to listen to a snippet of what they say to know they want even more Dev time. CH has had enough Dev time already. Actually more than enough. In fact too much.





/agree


CH is an AWESOME profession. But I think it belongs in EQ, not SWG.


Because this is star wars, hwere there are far more droids than even jedi, that attention should have been paid to droids, not Sludge Panthers.





Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)
Sodan-droiddreamer
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:58 pm
#70

This is a thread concerning CHs asking for more dev time and resources when they ahve already recieved a lot of time.


Pluto's thread was pure trolling.





Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)
Pluto9Moon
Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:17 pm
#71

LOL thanks Drashk. It was wrong of me to make my own thread this time. I should defend my profession in the trolling thread your guys placed.

Fact 1) Publish 5 was unwanted by CH's, DE's wanted to see an end to pet wars.
Fact 2) Publish 6 got little done for DE's because even they cannot make up their minds.
Fact 3) Publish 7 will get very very very little accomplished in the way of combat droids because DE's cannot decide whether they are Crafters or Combat.

Hypothetical 1) DE should stay crafter. It mirrors BE, WS, AS, Tailor amd Chef. It remains balanced.
Hypothetical 2) The Droid Commander does not have to be like CH. As a matter of fact as a CH I would resent an exact duplicate template. As I have stated before I see CH as the brawler line of pets. Whereas I see DC as a shooter line of pets. Here is were you can fill 12 boxes with "stuff" to make an entire profession. There are 6 weapon damage types: Heat, Cold, Electricity, Blast, Energy, and Acid (not counting Stun and Kinetic). I could spend 30 minutes thinking how to place boxes and what each branch of a tree might represent: Maintnence (better LE Repair Droid repair per level {granted it has to work first}), Weapons Systems (insert use of better CL and progressing to LLC and Flamethrower type weapons here), Target Acquisition (Guard, Guard Area, Guard Red Agro mobs, maybe Guard Faction??), and Special Attacks (a Strafe Shot or Cone type Damage).
Hypothetical 3) Someone should rally your profession around embracing Hypo 1&2 (such as I've tried to do). Present a solid plan for DC.
Hypothetical 4) The sooner you community embrace something consolidated the sooner it will heal.



Sign for Hutt Faction here: Hutt Faction

Not against broad changes, just profession specific ones (read as CH) that go against what we've been told in the past.
(I hired Trayson as a ghost writer for a good tagline)
Shian_Tavkin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:50 pm
#72

Pluto


You are soooo wrong with your so called facts at the start of your post that I can't be bothered to respomd to them, except to say that it wasn't DE's who wanted to see an end to Pet Wars..it was absolutely everyone in the game except CH.


You are just absolutely terrified of Droids becoming more important than your beloved Pets in this game, thats why you are mainly proposing a version of Droid Commander which is sufficiently distinct (ranged vs Brawler) from CH and leaves you untouched. One thing you can bet your life on, people don't want to see pets everywhere, and given a choice would have chosen Droids.


Much is revealed by the length of your hypothetical2 vs the other hypotheticals.


For once understand..Droid Commander is not the way forward..Runesabre has said so. He doesn't want a new profession. Nor do we.


Keep on with the futile arguments that CH is a weak class, I love it, mostly because it is so obviously a blatant lie that it undermines your entire position.


Keep Digging, the hole is getting deeper as you post.






Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Ackis
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:04 pm
#73

You CH's should go to your own forums and not come here damnit!!!!!


Simple fact is, your I demand petition is asking for more content for 1 skill level of CH than the ENTIRE DE profession.


The argument that you were promised the creatures is moot, as DEs have been promised more droids for a LONG time.





Imperial Captain Ackis Losackego - Über f335h

Aakhperkare
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:36 pm
#74






Ackis wrote:

You CH's should go to your own forums and not come here damnit!!!!!


Simple fact is, your I demand petition is asking for more content for 1 skill level of CH than the ENTIRE DE profession.


The argument that you were promised the creatures is moot, as DEs have been promised more droids for a LONG time.









You are a bonafied shmuck, Ackis. Is it that you have a problem with CH's asking for more content? Or would you make this much of a fuss no matter what profession it was. I hear Entertainers are being asked for mission concepts. Why not go mosey on over there and act like a turd?


I think it's the first. Our arguement is NOT moot simply because you're a little jealous kid, it's a very valid arguement since we were told it was going to happen. That would be like me saying any of your promises are moot. Makes no sense.


I do feel sorry for you guys and think you need much attention. But with people like Ackis behaving like a complete F-tard, just gives DE's in general a bad rep. CH's never had a problem with DE's (well, I didn't, and most didn't either I believe) until morons like Ackis started this crap.


Again, the hell with you...

CapnSteve
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:40 pm
#75






Pluto9Moon wrote:

Fact 1) Publish 5 was unwanted by CH's, DE's wanted to see an end to pet wars.
Fact 2) Publish 6 got little done for DE's because even they cannot make up their minds.
Fact 3) Publish 7 will get very very very little accomplished in the way of combat droids because DE's cannot decide whether they are Crafters or Combat.




1) Replace DE's with everyone.


2) We made up our minds a while ago, but no one bothered to ask until recently.


3) Publish 7 will get very little accomplished because the devs are allergic to certifications and can't seem to come up with anything else.





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Ackis
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:48 pm
#76






Aakhperkare wrote:



You are a bonafied shmuck, Ackis. Is it that you have a problem with CH's asking for more content? Or would you make this much of a fuss no matter what profession it was. I hear Entertainers are being asked for mission concepts. Why not go mosey on over there and act like a turd?


Ok dickhead. CHs constantly **edit**, moan and whine for more. They've been the focus of attention for the past 6-7 months in this game, when last I looked the game has Star Wars on it, not Pokemon on it. The only reason CH has had so much time is because the devs are Pokemon lovers. Your (CH) pets are extremely annoying, as they take up the entire screen, make things shake, and other crap like that. The general person who plays a CH is a script kiddie or an annoying a$$ (like you).


I think it's the first. Our arguement is NOT moot simply because you're a little jealous kid, it's a very valid arguement since we were told it was going to happen. That would be like me saying any of your promises are moot. Makes no sense.


Your arguement is more whining and complaining. Do you not realize that you're asking for MORE conent for a single skill box than an entire profession has? We've been told certs have been coming for months... guess what? They aren't and yet we were promised it happened. Your class starts a profession DEMANING that more creatures be put in for a SINGLE class? Who do you guys think you are? Your class has NO place in this game even. Maybe as milkers, but that is it.


I do feel sorry for you guys and think you need much attention. But with people like Ackis behaving like a complete F-tard, just gives DE's in general a bad rep. CH's never had a problem with DE's (well, I didn't, and most didn't either I believe) until morons like Ackis started this crap.


The simple fact is, I posted my thoughts and they were well-developed, if you chose to read all of them (which I doubt as anything longer than a paragraph is too complex for you). It effects the entire game, and as a result I'm allowed to state my opinion, and I did. Just because CHs do not like people disagreeing with them, and as a result they call them names such as TROLL or F-tard when they know that they're just whining for more stuff. CHs aren't like in this game, and the only reason a lot of people are one is because it was necessary to have uber pets to kill certain things. There is no place for CH in Star Wars, and most people agree with that. Find a class that belongs in the game please.


Again, the hell with you...

Go jump off a cliff, or kill yourself. Please. You're a CH, and as a result I have given the appropiate weight to your comments.








Imperial Captain Ackis Losackego - Über f335h

Aakhperkare
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:46 am
#77






Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:





Aakhperkare wrote:





Nailliar wrote:
You all wonder why CH is the most powerful and Easily the most Attention-slathered professsion... The former SWG creative developer and now SOE creative director or some title Holocron was the Pet Developer from his last company and game... AO I believe, could be wrong, I was playing EQ at the time. Any wonder that the man who made pets in his other job would make them so prominent in the next game he worked on and was partially in charge of.?!?!?! I'd say that was a hiring Mis-Match...look at the evidence....P-O-K-E Wars vs. Star Wars and Droids.






Actually, CH is one of the weakest combat professions in the game (if we can be called that). We are weak because CH has to be supplimented with another combat profession, or 9 times out of 10, our pets will die without help...




Thats the largest load of crap I've seen all day. Do not attempt to flush that monster.







Ok. Trying doing some missions as JUST an MCH, then try doing them as any other combat class...
Aakhperkare
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:47 am
#78






Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:





Shian_Tavkin wrote:

If you don't like CH ignore them?


If only that were possible !! Sad truth however is they are everywhere, and you only have to listen to a snippet of what they say to know they want even more Dev time. CH has had enough Dev time already. Actually more than enough. In fact too much.





/agree


CH is an AWESOME profession. But I think it belongs in EQ, not SWG.


Because this is star wars, hwere there are far more droids than even jedi, that attention should have been paid to droids, not Sludge Panthers.








You know what you can do with those "CH don't belong here comments"...
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