Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid Update!: The situation with the DE Hybrid proposal and CL10+ droids (04/02/04)
This really proves that the Devs have a complete lack of vision when it comes to DE. They still (after how many years in development?) have no clue what DE's should be and what droids should do...
They shoot down a perfectly balanced proposal (the numbers prove it was), and give us nothing. They're working on the whole combat balance thing, why couldn't this have been a part of that?
Honestly, I'm relieved to have cancelled, this game is nothing but waiting. Waiting for the next publish, waiting for the Space Expansion, wating for DE's to get better, waiting for the GCW to actually mean something....
I got sick of waiting...
And another thing...
TK, if DE is to get any better, the Devs need to focus the collective creative energies on the DE board. There are many bright, creative people here, but we're literally just shooting off in every direction, because we don't know which direction to go. It's the lack of any constructive communication from the devs that got us in this mess.
If and when the Devs decide what DE is/will be, only then can we come up with good, creative, plausible ideas.
Mightion wrote:
I have to agree, TK;you think we should make another such attempt to come together to put forth a balanced, useful, and feasible proposal, and to have it shut down without a red name explaining why. Just a simple "No"; that they couldn't even deliver themselves. You've done a great job, TK, but it would have been nice for TH or someone to step up and let us know why, instead of hearing it second hand.
TheRealTK421 wrote:
/bow
Grr, I really really didnt want to drop this profession, and now I'm going to have to.....it makes me sick.
Why are you going to "have to"?
I ask in all seriousness....
Respectfully,
While I haven't posted much on forums, I've been an avid reader and keep up to date with my professions and general news.
About a week and a half ago I started dropping DE as publish seven was out and established and the CONSTANT tells from people to make them battledroids such as those depicted in the splash screen were becoming infuriating.
I didn't enjoy the profession at all after approx 4 months doing it, I went on to master Fencer and had a good time killing things (had already master Pistoleer so was quite good)- I left eng IV and BluePrints IV and maxed XP in both droid and general crafting so i could regrind if publish eight turned out great. My hopes were kept alive by TKs constant hints that good things were afoot and that Sodans plan was being considered. Having read the announcements in this thread and the other one concerning Droid Names etc not only am I dropping DE completely but also giving serious thought to leaving the game, the neglect shown to 2/3 of the elite professions I've mastered defies my understanding (DE and pistoleer if you're wondering, Fencer is great
)The point that made me start to drop DE was when a random punter at a starport asked for a droid- any droid that would follow him around and 'look cool'. After 5 mins of explanation of droid capabilities and what i had to offer the next question- 'what's your coolest droid?'
/sigh
If I wanted to be a style consultant I'd do image designer, if i wanted to create unique products that players desire I do erm .. well not DE!
Looking at modules planned for pub 8 caused me to drop DE (ie not seeing anything involving slicing, surveying or remote maintenace/merchant) and unfortunatly the handling of DE and to a lesser extent Pistoleer may well cause me to drop SWG
PS I know DEs are feeling unloved with no red names appearing, but look at the combat classes forums- majority of red-name response was 'wait for the combat balance' - how useless are those words now?
/signing out
I really can't figure out the devs priorities sometimes.
What really kills me is that they're spending 2 whole publishes devoted to Jedi......giving them new abilities, quests, content.......even making new ways to get to Jedi.....all to keep thehardcore powergamers happy before WoW comes out.
I guess we know who the devs want to keep happy the most. Jedi players are crucial to keep satisfied as they represent hardcore, profit making players who play the most.....DEs not so much.
All this attention and time going to Jedi.....which were supposed to be super rare in this time period. Meanwhile reworking combat droids won't happen until next year or so, after the SE comes out.
Soon you'll be seeing more Jedi in this game than droids.
Message Edited by ReptileSpit on 04-03-2004 06:35 AM
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Grr, I really really didnt want to drop this profession, and now I'm going to have to.....it makes me sick.
Why are you going to "have to"?
I ask in all seriousness....
TK, do you not see the dozens of good-bye posts posted in the main forum, or those in this thread?
Do you not understand how some people feel beaten and abused?
Oh, wait, you're "elevated" as you say now - I guess you don't understand how the "little people" feel.
And you expect us to be happy with standing in line to get another slap in the face, to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Shian, although you are right, we all know that the only way TK would actually stand up for the community in this matter would be if they tore his cold, dead hands from the title. This was his goal all along to be a correspondent (anyone that has ever read any of his posts knows this), and as we all saw it changed his "tune" literally overnight - we lost any hope of the correspondent people thought they nominated.
It is clear it does not matter to him that so many people see such a huge problem and are quitting, and he seems just fine with that - hoping in vain that possibly some day they will come back.
TK is the only one that could tell the Devs how truly bleak the situation is - it's a shame he is blinded by his title and will not step up to the plate.
AO
Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 04-03-2004 06:43 AM
I have to admit I am somehow suprised. And mostly because I thought that it would fly because I surrendered DE. You know how you wash your car and then it rains?
Okay, I am a retired DE now (thank the maker), but I think I should pipe up here for a second. I think the number one focus now should be getting droids into the Space Expansion like they should be. That means that you get them into ship repair, ship upgrades, ship building, ship navigation, ship weapons systems, ship whatever everything.
Because let me just say that if they handle the space expansion like they did the release of SWG, droids won't play a part, they won't play a role, they will be a shadow of what they should be. There are already many talks about the space expansion, and even the Politician board is managing to carve little bites into the shares of the goodies.
They are already pushing droid development beyond the space expansion, and are we just going to add a ton more lines to our list of complaints and frustrations when after the Space Expansion comes out nobody thought to include the Droids? Forget any kind of combat droid on the ground and start working to something in the future that nobody can deny.
Help us Space Expansion (and TK and the remainder of the DE community). You're our only hope.
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
Now, I have sales , plenty sales, but unlike the Jenden's of this world I don't judge my happiness on how many million credits I have, and yes I do have several. Thats not the point. My customers want what I cannot give them, in fact what I can give them is laughable to them. The standard craft/med/storage droids still sell, but the combat droids are a joke without the armour. If that came back it would be happy days, but the Devs think we are 'balanced' - so we know for sure they dont play the game. In fact we know for sure they love 'creatures' more than anything, just look at the work that went into making all those wild cratures and the animations - grat stuff I agree, but a definite bias.