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Thread: Droid Module Focus (Stimpack Dispensor): Information, discussion and bug-reporting (04/14/04)

JavelinCatcher
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:08 pm
#53






Jenden wrote:





THJahar wrote:
question:
does the droid have to be targeted to use the command?
If it doesn't what is the effect of having a group of say 5 people with 5 droids?
does the 1 command activate all droids so you get a heal from all of them? i.e. 5 x 80 = 400 heal!





the droid doesn't have to be targeted I believe, I'll have to try multiple droids, could be interesting...



Yes, unfortunatly during combat the droid must be targeted for /requestStimpack to work. Yea, I realize that's not good. TK and I were discussing this the other night and trying to figure out implementable "work-arounds" for the devs. Consider this topic a "work in progress."



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Kaldeth
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:21 am
#54






JavelinCatcher wrote:





Jenden wrote:





THJahar wrote:
question:
does the droid have to be targeted to use the command?
If it doesn't what is the effect of having a group of say 5 people with 5 droids?
does the 1 command activate all droids so you get a heal from all of them? i.e. 5 x 80 = 400 heal!





the droid doesn't have to be targeted I believe, I'll have to try multiple droids, could be interesting...



Yes, unfortunatly during combat the droid must be targeted for /requestStimpack to work. Yea, I realize that's not good. TK and I were discussing this the other night and trying to figure out implementable "work-arounds" for the devs. Consider this topic a "work in progress."





Does the command to get 'stimmed' go into the combat queue? And if so, what happens if you have 5-6 attacks in the queue, you target the droid and ask for a stim, then focus on your target, will the droid still give you a stim even if it isn't targeted when the command in the combat queue comes 'into play'


I mean with normal personal heal you sometimes get a 'Target must be a player or a pet blah blah' so the stim wont work until you target yourself or someone on your 'friendside'



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JavelinCatcher
Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:33 am
#55






Kaldeth wrote:



Does the command to get 'stimmed' go into the combat queue? And if so, what happens if you have 5-6 attacks in the queue, you target the droid and ask for a stim, then focus on your target, will the droid still give you a stim even if it isn't targeted when the command in the combat queue comes 'into play'


I mean with normal personal heal you sometimes get a 'Target must be a player or a pet blah blah' so the stim wont work until you target yourself or someone on your 'friendside'






Yea, it's a similar problem with switching targets. It's one of those "invisible queue" items that gets messed up when you switch targets. This is very annoying. I hope a solution can be worked out.



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patchman70
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:53 am
#56

Can you load the stims into the mod before putting it into the droid? or is it after... everything is can find is you do it after but just double checking...

So you sell the droid unloaded, the buyer goes to a medic and they load it? correct? can we re-deed droids yet? would be nice to load it and resell it... oh well...

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Morturr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:15 am
#57

You can also macro this particular command (adjusted before you enter combat)


/target (NameofDroid);

/pause .5; (to make sure that it dosnt lag when trying to target, it may not be an issue and could be taken out)

/requestStimpack;


That will get you what you need - but it will take your current focus off of what your trying to attack - which wont be a pretty sight in a large battle and your trying to use specials.



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TheRealTK421
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:23 am
#58

Morturr,

Right on....


What happens with there's 5 unnamable Surgicial droids, for example, in the group? The macro has no way of knowing which of the 5 in your group you intended to target.

This is a sticky wicket issue right now...one that I don't think will get addressed before the publish.



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Jenden
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:24 am
#59

I don't think it will be too bad when your in a group with the droid, just target them in the group menu. Getting back to your original combat target could be tricky in large battles though.



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Morturr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:27 am
#60






TheRealTK421 wrote:

Morturr,

Right on....


What happens with there's 5 unnamable Surgicial droids, for example, in the group? The macro has no way of knowing which of the 5 in your group you intended to target.

This is a sticky wicket issue right now...one that I don't think will get addressed before the publish.



/bow

Respectfully,








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MSP0
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:30 am
#61

The solution is to use the Program menu, like other droids. Lets say Bob programs his droid to respond to "Help!", Mary to "Hit me", and Jimmy to "H". Michael has the option of yelling "Help!", "Hit me", and/or "H"


The mechanism is already in place. There is no need for a new slash command.


This bit about having to target the droid to use the command is pretty disappointing.


I'd also like the ability for Player A to request a heal on Player B. To do this, program a "Heal Other" setting. Target the recipient, and say the trigger. Even better, make the program accept a parameter so I can say "Help! MyFriend00", or even "Help! MyPet01"







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Dormax
Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:31 am
#62

OK, little clarification here, please.


Does this mean that as the owner/doctor in the group I'd be able to send the droid to heal someone in my group? If so what about people not in my group? And if there is a heal-other command on the droid, then what heppens if your heal-other and use your own name as the target?


At any rate, I'm really liking the general idea here. The only 2 things I can see improvement on is being able to direct my droid to heal somone else and the ability to use Stim A+... darn shame too since I just did a big guild quest to collect up A+ schems They will all be sorely disapointed. I can understand not puting medics out of work, but I cant see how the extra 50 healed damage (even over time) would be significantly impacting on combat... especially when the Atim A+ is a limited schematic. (though 50pts at 2 second intervals... wel yeah, that adds up).







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Lonkley
Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:09 pm
#63

yes, of course they would have to target the droid. cant risk the droid being useful. This is almost as good as using a radial menu to target with turrets.


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JavelinCatcher
Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:21 pm
#64






Dormax wrote:

OK, little clarification here, please.


Does this mean that as the owner/doctor in the group I'd be able to send the droid to heal someone in my group? If so what about people not in my group? And if there is a heal-other command on the droid, then what heppens if your heal-other and use your own name as the target?


At any rate, I'm really liking the general idea here. The only 2 things I can see improvement on is being able to direct my droid to heal somone else and the ability to use Stim A+... darn shame too since I just did a big guild quest to collect up A+ schems They will all be sorely disapointed. I can understand not puting medics out of work, but I cant see how the extra 50 healed damage (even over time) would be significantly impacting on combat... especially when the Atim A+ is a limited schematic. (though 50pts at 2 second intervals... wel yeah, that adds up).







Well, I think you're misunderstanding the use. If this droid is out and the doc isn't paying attention or has to take care of someone else first, the droid can be used as a temporary solution until the doc gets there. It's better that it be independant of the doc (meaning the doc doesn't have to give the instruction for the droid to heal) and can concentrate on useing more powerfull stims on those that need it. It would be counter productive for a doc to have to use a droid to heal someone else when they could do it themselves and at higher power.



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Dormax
Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:41 pm
#65






JavelinCatcher wrote:


Well, I think you're misunderstanding the use. If this droid is out and the doc isn't paying attention or has to take care of someone else first, the droid can be used as a temporary solution until the doc gets there. It's better that it be independant of the doc (meaning the doc doesn't have to give the instruction for the droid to heal) and can concentrate on useing more powerfull stims on those that need it. It would be counter productive for a doc to have to use a droid to heal someone else when they could do it themselves and at higher power.





Oh not at all, actually. As a master doc and usually the one healing in the party, being able to stand in the background and heal / direct the droid at the same time, I'd be effectivly healing more then one person at a time. Not to mention lowering the need for camp healing and the drain on my poor wits as I have to suck all my mind away for healing but dont dare to take my helm off lol.


But, ok.. so we wont be able to direct the droid.. hrmm.. hopefully that might be something they will let medics do in the future *shrug*


(Still like to see A+'s get in there )




Message Edited by Dormax on 04-21-2004 07:42 PM






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