Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid Module Focus (Creature Harvest): Information, discussion and bug-reporting (04/17/04)
As a Master Ranger, I'm very disapointed in the way the harvesting mod works.
Instead of making it a logical straight up bonus to existing skills like Veghash provides, it is a flat value. If your harvesting skill is higher than the droids, there is no benefit. Purchasing any droid with a harvesting value less than 100 is a waste of time for me, and said droids seem to be non-existent on my server.
It seems that Master Rangers are almost being penalized for investing more skill points and receive less benefit from these new droids. Folks with lower harvesting skills will receive more benefit. Yet another way to make rangers less valuable......meh.
A droid that can loot and only be usable by one profession will most likely seriously unbalance the game in favour of rapid looters. What I think would be a good compremise would be for the droid to notify the owner that there is loot available on the corpse and the owner or party will then have to get to the corpse before it "poofs". This way a hunter would not loose out on using a droid and not give a benefit beyond it's intended purpose.
... Kelvar O'Tal
As a Master Ranger does this do anything for me?
Does the droid's harvesting rating *add* to my own, or is it just a percentage of my own? i.e. Creature Harvesting 100 (master Ranger)+ Droid Harvest Rating 8 = 108 or 8?
Matsubaa wrote:As a Master Ranger does this do anything for me?
Does the droid's harvesting rating *add* to my own, or is it just a percentage of my own? i.e. Creature Harvesting 100 (master Ranger)+ Droid Harvest Rating 8 = 108 or 8?
No it doesn't add at all to your base stat. What it looks like so far from the data that I've collected is that you want to get a droid that has more than half your harvesting bonus. Below that it seems to drop off sharply in how much you get. Granted this is with about 10 data points, which isn't nearly enough.
So if you get a droid please post any relevant data from harvesting with and without the droid to the thread I started in the Scout forum.
Tarne_Monter wrote:
Matsubaa wrote:
As a Master Ranger does this do anything for me?
Does the droid's harvesting rating *add* to my own, or is it just a percentage of my own? i.e. Creature Harvesting 100 (master Ranger)+ Droid Harvest Rating 8 = 108 or 8?
No it doesn't add at all to your base stat. What it looks like so far from the data that I've collected is that you want to get a droid that has more than half your harvesting bonus. Below that it seems to drop off sharply in how much you get. Granted this is with about 10 data points, which isn't nearly enough.
So if you get a droid please post any relevant data from harvesting with and without the droid to the thread I started in the Scout forum.
I'll be experimenting with some droids today. Since feedback has been so mixed on the trapping droid the Droid Engineer I spoke to suggested he'd give me a couple of freebies just so he could know how they worked.
My current harvesting droid is only rated at an 8 but seemed to harvest roughly equivalent to my own abilities. This might have been just because of what I was specifically hunting or because I was grouped and taking a penalty anyway.
I think one benefit to these droids that is often overlooked is the fact that they are not subject to the 40% reduction in harvesting for groups, as long as you haven't included the droid in your group. This reason alone can make a world of difference for hunting parties. They are good sellers for me, and I get good feedback from my customers.
Blatz
This is not accurate. If I am in a group, my ungrouped droid will not harvest as much as if I were solo. Since the droid is a bonus (or penalty based on rating) in relation to a Scout's skill, and that skill takes a penalty when the scout is grouped, the harvest amount goes down. This is also why a Veghash bonus is applied to a droid, veghash improves the scout's skill and this is what gives the droid his base.
Blatz wrote:
I think one benefit to these droids that is often overlooked is the fact that they are not subject to the 40% reduction in harvesting for groups, as long as you haven't included the droid in your group. This reason alone can make a world of difference for hunting parties. They are good sellers for me, and I get good feedback from my customers.
Blatz
- Lower the need of stack to make them usefull. With current need, harvesting + trapping combo is most of the time pointless, and having 2 droids for that is pointless too.
- Find a way for the droid to auto-harvest what his master killed last (maybe at the price of the bonus).
Yes, it is true that the ungrouped harvest droid will harvest less if it's owner is part of a group, but the effect is in my experience not as great as the 40% reduction the owner gets when harvesting.
In otherwords, say you have a master scout with a 100 rating harvest droid. The droid out harvests the MS by a very small margin. Now get that master scout in a group, and the droid should now out harvest the scout by a larger margin, although notharvesting as much as when the ownerscout was ungrouped.
I will try to get some hard numbers on this as I am also a CH with Hunting IV. Again, these are just observations of mine so I could just be getting misinformation from my customer base. With the business I am doing on these, I haven't had a chance to build one for myself!
Blatz
I wouldn't say it at all. As I said before it is plain NOT TRUE
Matsubaa wrote:
Blatz wrote:
I think one benefit to these droids that is often overlooked is the fact that they are not subject to the 40% reduction in harvesting for groups, as long as you haven't included the droid in your group. This reason alone can make a world of difference for hunting parties. They are good sellers for me, and I get good feedback from my customers.
Blatz
I wouldn't say that too loudly. Sounds like a bug to me.
Blatz wrote:
I think one benefit to these droids that is often overlooked is the fact that they are not subject to the 40% reduction in harvesting for groups, as long as you haven't included the droid in your group. This reason alone can make a world of difference for hunting parties. They are good sellers for me, and I get good feedback from my customers.
Blatz