Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Sodan's Hybrid DE Proposal
Kollos wrote:
Thank you, too, Sodan. There was a time when I would have expected you to follow Shian's lead. You seem to havechanged a bit, and I respect you more for it. You haven't lost your passion for what you believe in, though, and that's a good thing. /salute
I believe in the first amendment very strongly, man. I also believe in working out deals on the basis of a good compromise. Also, I am bolstered by all the positive "good job; great idea" PMs I have been getting which have outweighed some of the seriously negative sh*t I've seen in this thread. It's hard not to answer it, but I find when you do it just keeps coming.There is no point in that. I don't like to step in it. 
The focus has been to build consensus amongst a majority of the active community on these boards and now we need to wait and see what the devs will say. The differences have been noted. The commonalities have bubbled to the top like diamonds on sand.
Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
In light of the droid armor nerf, I think a system that brings in CL10+ droids is sorely needed.
Well, things are in flux. If things are headed where we think they are headed, we need this plan even more to be viable. Higher lvl droids could have good armor and special attacks.
Virtanis wrote:
Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
In light of the droid armor nerf, I think a system that brings in CL10+ droids is sorely needed.
You and me both... how can any plan be seriously pitched if the droids we build today look nothing like what we'll be able to build next week?
Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
Kollos wrote:
Thank you, too, Sodan. There was a time when I would have expected you to follow Shian's lead. You seem to havechanged a bit, and I respect you more for it. You haven't lost your passion for what you believe in, though, and that's a good thing. /salute
I believe in the first amendment very strongly, man. I also believe in working out deals on the basis of a good compromise. Also, I am bolstered by all the positive "good job; great idea" PMs I have been getting which have outweighed some of the seriously negative sh*t I've seen in this thread. It's hard not to answer it, but I find when you do it just keeps coming.There is no point in that. I don't like to step in it.
The focus has been to build consensus amongst a majority of the active community on these boards and now we need to wait and see what the devs will say. The differences have been noted. The commonalities have bubbled to the top like diamonds on sand.
Lol well if he can change his mind so can I
Still I wont comment on the crux of his 'love letter', be careful who you let woo you Sodan, lest you recieve a mighty surprise when you least expect it..my mother warned me about sweet talking guys
Oh btw, whats this First Amendment thing about? Does it apply to Europeans who have had it since can't remember when..nevermind.
It's over now, the devs are in the think tank, and the hamburger has been sent..just not sure to where. Pray it is not the 45% cereal version.
Whoever and Whatever, we are all DE's...and yep thats a peace offering Kollos if you want.
Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 03-12-2004 10:21 PM
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
Oh btw, whats this First Amendment thing about? Does it apply to Europeans who have had it since can't remember when..nevermind.
Well, yeah it does apply to Europeans, at least when you're in the USA. Which I suspect applies even when you're using a message board or playing a game as long as the server is hosted in the USA. Or something like that. I'm sure there's pages & pages of potential legal wrangling that could be done on the issue.
Whoever and Whatever, we are all DE's...and yep thats a peace offering Kollos if you want.
Accepted. I may anger easily, but I forgive and forget easily too.
Kollos wrote:
But what they're doing now is total crap. These two patches ( I refuse to call them "publishes" until the new content in them is greater than the number of bug fixes) were supposed to HELP Droid Engineers and bring us up to the level of the other previously re-worked professions. Instead we're getting a massive nerf and a few bug fixes.
EnigmaBSc wrote:
I agree to the ideas in principle, although non-combat utility is also required (I.e. this must not REPLACE the entertainer/merchant/bomb modules + hopefully others in the long term).
I prefer variant #2 or a #2/#4 combo.
I hope you will forgive me a small question which I don't believe has been addressed so far. Under any of these variants, what type of experience is required to advance through the tactician tree? It can't be droid crafting experience because 0040's can't craft droids and it shouldn't be combat-droid usage experience because then DE's have to fight to gain Master. Perhaps combat droid experience gained through crafting or using a combat droid?
EnigmaBSc
Thanks for your support. At this time, crafting exp is all that is required for the 0040 DE tree. That is to allow pure crafters to progress in DE WITHOUT having to engage in combat.
I'd love for combat droid exp to exist and somehow be a factor, but at this point we are staying away from it because there is a substantial component of the DE community that understandably does not want to engage in combat. Under the current plan, combat/weapon exp is all that is required.
Your suggestions for how to incorporate this combat droid exp into the plan would be welcome. Pls take some time to review the discussion thus far.
).My original post was in relation to Sodan's Hybrid DE Proposal 2.0:
I hope you will forgive me a small question which I don't believe has been addressed so far. Under any of these variants, what type of experience is required to advance through the tactician tree? It can't be droid crafting experience because 0040's can't craft droids and it shouldn't be combat-droid usage experience because then DE's have to fight to gain Master. Perhaps combat droid experience gained through crafting or using a combat droid?
EnigmaBSc
EnigmaBSc
I meant DE craftign exp.
At the same time an either/or approach would be cool. Grinding to 0040 DE with DE crafting exp OR combat droid exp might be cool.
Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
I meant DE craftign exp.
At the same time an either/or approach would be cool. Grinding to 0040 DE with DE crafting exp OR combat droid exp might be cool.