Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Critical bugs
Jenden wrote:
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
Jenden wrote:
A lot of these things are either minor bugs (things that can be worked around or have little impact on the profession) or feature enhancement/changes... I mainly need stuff that completely breaks/invalidates some droid/part of the profession.
Jenden, my man *hugs*
I know of old that you don't have combat droids high on your personal agenda hun, but now you are the Corr its gotta be different.
Droid Armour......this is a big one and destroys droid crafting..you might not think experimentation is on the agenda for this thread..but I think it should be. Nevermind, Droid Armour is ....as usual..nerfed.
Health...all droids default and thats a plain bug. Again..Experimentation should matter..else where is the pride?
You know well enough about the maint functionality..so 'nuff said
BLL - I s'pose you will say this is not a bug but functionality...Dear God how much longer is the Prime Crafting item of our profession gonna be utterly worthless and not saleable to anyone except the terminally mad?
Droid Healing...so medics can still do it? I'm not sure, but sure as hell they should not be doing it.
Vitality. No to Pet Vitality Packs..we do not have pets, we have droids..once and for all can there be acceptance of the difference?
Thats enough for now. I suggest you replace your sneakers with steel toed industrial footware and place a well aimed hit where it will be most effective. This pussyfooting around does not seem to be getting us anywhere. Devs have us in an unwinnable situation..we b*tch and they use that as an excuse to ignore us, or we behave, and they use that as an excuse to ignore us. I dont know from other servers, but they sympathy I get in game is so damned close to pure pity that I cant tell the difference. DE is broke, borked and so unnatractive to play that I wonder sometimes if its not the intention to get rid of it entirely.
So, go fly the flag..enough abuse is enough..this goes beyond innatention to our profession, it has now got to being abusive.
Grr
Its not me saying no feature requests... I was asked for a list of critical bugs (things that made part of our profession unplayable) and if I gave them a list of feature requests and issues such as this it would most likely get tossed out. All of these things are there as well, just on a different list.
Ok Jenden I call you!
If what I mentioned above doesn't qualiify as 'critical bugs' by the warped and festering minds of our beloved Devs, and it has to be labelled 'feature requests', then please post the 'other list' that you say they have in front of them. That I would like to see, and as Corr you should let us see it as a communication priority.
This is crazyworld......the stuff I talk about, and that others in this thread have talked about, is all 'profession critical' !! You don't see demands togive us Uber Combat Droids, you do see simple things .... like can a deed list, in 'customer meaningful language' what a droid can do. At the same time it IS a bug that they all do the same in basic combat terms.1 combat module, 1 armour module and hey presto a top quality droid...or are the loonies are running the asylum?. Maybe thats it..we are being unreasonable asking to at least get back to where we were where quality matters? You are the Corr..so you tell us please.
What is your definition of 'critical' or 'unplayable'? I have to say that from the past I remember you being happy selling ..selling anything, and preferably selling utility droids. Now I dont want to get all judgemental on you, but credits isn't it Jenden, it simply isn't the point. Pride, excellence, differentiation......in short QUALITY is what matters in DE, not selling 100's of flight computers at stupidly overpriced rates (as I see from the respecced DE shops on my server). It is not about getting rich..and never has been. I dont think your 'industrialist' views on this are mainstream DE.
So, I say to you, submit a list that the DE's want, not to meekly fit in with what the Devs asked you for. So..it gets kicked out as you suspect...then that only tells us how completely out of touch they are with this profession. I really don't mean to offend..but I read all the various loving that 'others' are getting..damned if CH didnt get a special server down for the 'elite' pets, and we, meantime sit in squalor, armour nerfed and cant honourably sell a CL30 droid that contains minimum components.
If I was you I'd go for it, there is no evidence that being compliant with their wishes delivers anything but disappointment to this profession. Tell me and show me if I am wrong.
In friendship, if not agreement
Regards
Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 07-02-2005 10:29 PM
We don't want much, some more modules/chassises, maybe a profession to use battle droids/droidikas, but more wanted, quality per creation and fixes.
Why are we always forgotten we everyone talks about upgrading the game? Combat Upgrade=nothing new and boatload of bugs. Every other post here talks about the lack of attention to DEs or the bugs ingame or the features that would make the profession like it SHOULD be. This may sound like complaining, but this is far from it. This a request for what we deserve as the crucial element in the Star Wars universe.
So, what do we have to do to get our needed upgrade?
Well, we wound't
Jenden wrote:
Its not me saying no feature requests... I was asked for a list of
critical bugs (things that made part of our profession unplayable) and
if I gave them a list of feature requests and issues such as this it
would most likely get tossed out. All of these things are there as
well, just on a different list.
toss it out, but we might not be able to identify from a larger list
which issues are of critical import to fix, and which are less
important.
We'd do our best, but we don't play the profession as much as you do.
JFreeman wrote:
>Well, we wound't toss it out, but we might not be able to identify from a larger list which issues are of critical import to fix, and which are less important.
We'd do our best, but we don't play the profession as much as you do.
So, if we compiled a list of solely all known bugs, one of needed changes, and one of wanted features, you would look into it with the mindset of doing something with them?
What is your definition of 'critical' or 'unplayable'? I have to say that from the past I remember you being happy selling ..selling anything, and preferably selling utility droids. Now I dont want to get all judgemental on you, but credits isn't it Jenden, it simply isn't the point. Pride, excellence, differentiation......in short QUALITY is what matters in DE, not selling 100's of flight computers at stupidly overpriced rates (as I see from the respecced DE shops on my server). It is not about getting rich..and never has been. I dont think your 'industrialist' views on this are mainstream DE.
JFreeman wrote:
Well, we wound't toss it out, but we might not be able to identify from a larger list which issues are of critical import to fix, and which are less important.
We'd do our best, but we don't play the profession as much as you do.
(It's amazing how much some daysI hate the way these forums eat post...I keep forgetting why I don't come here that much until I try to post. :smileymad
OK fair enough, but please for the sake of my sanity, tell me that you or someone on your staff have actually beenreading all the "Top 5 Issues" lists and Gorantoth's list that we have been generating for the last year and a half? What was the purpose of all of those exercises (besides being exercises in apparent futility?) if you did not? Many of the things we have asked for/ pleaded for/ begged for/ groveled for have yet to be fixed, so you will have to excuse me if I don't seem enthusiastic that this time will be any different. 
Sometimes I feel like a hampster on a treadmill...lost of movement, but very little forward progress.
Actually, at least for DE and some of the other crafting professions (tailor, architect, shipwright, etc.), we have actually been "retrograded" in terms of functionality and usefullness. I hope that is not "working as intended" as part of the move to an all combat form of SWG?
On a side note, please know that it is very difficult for me sometimes to separate what YOU consider to be "critical" bugs from what I consider to be "critical" bugs. For me, every item that has yet to be fixed, hampers my sales, or is just downright lame (not being able to name an R2 droid R2 anyone?) have a direct impact on my play in some form or another (pissed off customers, missed sales opportunities, hours explaining why droids "can't" do this or that) and are therefore "critical" to the game from my perspective as they totally destroy my sense of worth and limit what I can actually do in my chosen profession. Please keep that in mind as you read through these forums.
We all see things from different perspectives, and since we are not clairvoyant and don't know what you are really thinking, we also try to do our best to give you what we think you are asking for. All served up with a steaming side of frustration and bitterness too, for you reading pleasure, since we have been doing this treadmill routine for several years now.
Message Edited by Micco30 on 07-03-2005 07:56 AM
ok the jedi heal bug. when we are in combat and we try and heal ourselfs we end up healing someone else or it comes up with you are not permitted to help that target, and this ends up with us being killed in pvp and in pve
*Not: May take a couple of hours to read all threads. Please let us know that you are actually doing something other than "looking into it"
JFreeman wrote:
Well, we wound't toss it out, but we might not be able to identify from a larger list which issues are of critical import to fix, and which are less important.
Jenden wrote:
Its not me saying no feature requests... I was asked for a list of critical bugs (things that made part of our profession unplayable) and if I gave them a list of feature requests and issues such as this it would most likely get tossed out. All of these things are there as well, just on a different list.
We'd do our best, but we don't play the profession as much as you do.
Heya Mr. lead live designer
The number one critical bug which affect pretty much every DE, every crafter and maybe some combat chars is thatall Armor on Droids resets to a lower value on the 2. call, means the maximum 9000 AE become 1217 (about 50% less protection)
Would be nice to see a hotfix to that in the next days/week
(It seems to be related to the ArmorEff.of tamed wild pets, as these seem to have the AE fitting to the CL of the crafted droids)
Gooners wrote:
ok the jedi heal bug. when we are in combat and we try and heal ourselfs we end up healing someone else or it comes up with you are not permitted to help that target, and this ends up with us being killed in pvp and in pve
Are you an idiot... or just plain stupid?
Did you not read this post at all, and just look at the title?
Did you not realize its in the Droid Engineer forum?
Nothing against Jedi... but posting your bugs in other professions bug threads is pretty lame. You have your own boards... use them.