Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Seekers...should we even bother?
Buzz1096 wrote:
I'm going to yell at ourselves a little here.
DEs are notorious for not re-stocking our vendors. I know of plenty of BHs that buy seekers but never burn ALL of their charges out of fear that it might take a couple of days to get their hands on more - should they run out.
I have to agree with this 100%, but the problem isn't so much lazy DE's, but the amount of effort that has to go into making these BH droids for so little return.
For all the GP's and Mem's that have to go into making Arakyd's or Seekers, I can make a ton of Advanced Droid Brains for R3's that make a hell of a lot more than BH droids ever will. Factor in factory time eaten up and it really becomes apparent why these aren't stocked a whiole lot by DE's. Unless you have multiple accounts, cross server factory trades, or dedicate yourself to making BH droids for your main business, they really just aren't worth making.
Dev's need to make these easier to make is the bottom line. I get around to making batches of BH droids maybe once a month and I feel guilty about it.
Kylania wrote:
Is the solution so far than just to not sell seekers in crates since the Devs have ignored this issue for so long?
It's not the crates that do it. If a BH uses the "Find and Track" option on a seeker droid, it doesn't use a charge. My MBH on TC2 has been using one seeker droid ever since he started. I've tracked ~75-80 marks and never used a charge.
OckVofad wrote:
Well I do sell them but they go in spurts. I sell enough to make it worth my while to make them. The arakyd probe droids obviously sell better, in fact, someonecleaned out my vendor last night.
I'll give the devs the benefit of the doubt and assume that this bug is a massive pain to find or fix. I just wish they would give us some info on it.
I have noted an uptick in probe droid purchaces since Tuesday. Hmmmm...wonder why?
I think a better way to judge this is how many BHs come back and buy seekers from you. Typically a player will make BH, go out and buy crates of seekers to grind through Inv III. Once they get there, they never buy another seeker.
I'm going to yell at ourselves a little here.
DEs are notorious for not re-stocking our vendors. I know of plenty of BHs that buy seekers but never burn ALL of their charges out of fear that it might take a couple of days to get their hands on more - should they run out.
I once saw a thread on the BH boards about this that basicallymost BHsfeel bad about it when they do it, but whenever the devs talk about fixing it they say, "Great, because it's so much fun traveling to 4 planets and spending 21/2 hours to find a stocked DE vendor."
I think that the majority of BHs would stop using the unlimited feature, if we made it a little easier on them by keeping our vendors stocked.
On the other side of the coin, we say, "why stock the things when BHs don't really need to buy any?"
It would probably get resolved if the devs would do their jobs and fix this OLD AND TIRED BUG!
Buzz1096 wrote:
I'm going to yell at ourselves a little here.
DEs are notorious for not re-stocking our vendors. I know of plenty of BHs that buy seekers but never burn ALL of their charges out of fear that it might take a couple of days to get their hands on more - should they run out.
I once saw a thread on the BH boards about this that basicallymost BHsfeel bad about it when they do it, but whenever the devs talk about fixing it they say, "Great, because it's so much fun traveling to 4 planets and spending 21/2 hours to find a stocked DE vendor."
I think that the majority of BHs would stop using the unlimited feature, if we made it a little easier on them by keeping our vendors stocked.
On the other side of the coin, we say, "why stock the things when BHs don't really need to buy any?"
It would probably get resolved if the devs would do their jobs and fix this OLD AND TIRED BUG!
And this is really my point exactly. They are such a pain to make for the small return we get. The subcomponents would be better spent on more profitable droids. Should we ask the devs to start up the old BH droid vendors?
That is entirely inaccurate. They're actually one of the easier droids to make. I'm a DE and my other char is a MBH. I am constantly making Arakyds and Seekers. Seekers a bit less yes of course, however once I get low on them, it's no effort at all to run some gp modules and mem mods. Then a run of the droids. Myself personally, I have 2 equipment factories so I do the modules both at the same time, then 1 run for the droids. It's no brainer work, start the factory and forget about em till they're done. They don't take all that much in the way of resources, not to mention you can use cheap resources on them.
I put 10 times more work into 1 custom droid for a player than I put into a run of 300 BH droids. And to be honest, the 6k I charge for a crate is a huge profit margin. The only reason I charge 6k is because everybody else on the server charges 7k or more and already I'm the recipient of many hate mails accusing me of under cutting prices. And it's not uncommon for me to find crates of my arakyds and seekers on somebody else's vendor at a jacked up price.
As somebody who plays a BH and a DE I can tell you, you're really over reacting.
First of all, there's a bug where if the BH uses 'Find and Track' instead of just 'Find Target' (which is where the seeker doesn't get consumed) the BH can no longer use a shuttle because he/she will crash to desktop at the next seeker update. So most BH's (and pretty much all of them that I know personally) always opt to use the single use seeker mode which does indeed consume the seeker.
Second, many bug fixes dealing with droid tracking are currently being tested on the test center server, and some BH's have reported their seekers are being consumed.