Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Made DE in 3 to 4 days, but i dont know how to make a bot

ArdenStarmariner
Tue May 11, 2004 8:58 am
#14

ROFLMAO!!!!




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
Sunfire1
Tue May 11, 2004 9:48 am
#15

I hope you dont think I'm trying to be mean like alot of the other posters here, but there is no shortcut.


Most of us who chose DE as a profession did not just grind our way up, we stopped at each new skill we achieved and experimented with the new items we could make. This is the only way to truly know a profession. Take a day or 2, and make every droid possible, and every module possible. You will learn so much on your own, you will realized that 100 posts here could not tell you what you need. Only by experimenting on your own can you figure out which resource stats affect which modules and models. Not only that, its the only way you can get a feel for which specific resources you will need, and in what quantities.


For example. Those of us that stopped everytime we leveled and experimented learned that the droids that sell best require Advanced Droid Brains. Mostly from factory crates. Look at the schematic and you notice that each brain will require 4 EGPs and EMMs from factory crates.


In my case, as soon as I found this out, I looked at my skillpoints again and reallocated them so I could hit Master Artisan, so I could make these items. This turned out to be a great decision, for not only do the brains use these, but all the high level modules use them as well. As well as numerous other items we sell.


Or Control Units. Almost every droids you will sell will have an Adv Droid Motive System. Each of these require a control unit. Or the mother of them all, ESSs for Probots. These are Master Artisan items that require 2 (1 optional) master artisan parts to make.


Want to make Armor 6? Have to see an Armorsmith to get the panels you need for it.


This lost goes on, and on. Sorry there is no quick easy guide to being a MDE,you have to learn it yourself the hard way, at least if you want to be competent at it.


zenon-
Tue May 11, 2004 10:00 am
#16






skeenee wrote:

Quit DE .. tah't s my advice!!! Don' t ruin the reputation of our respectabel profession! lol






repectable lol droids are completely useless



Now where did I put my flamethrower?
-Totalkaos-
Tue May 11, 2004 10:04 am
#17

lol.... took me 7 hours from the time I registered my name ingame... created a character.... and got my final training...


That was back in Oct. And I have been a master DE since





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A single death is a tragedy; A million deaths is a statistic -=Stalin=-
Jnath
Tue May 11, 2004 10:09 am
#18

The respect due to our community is not based soley on the functionality of our product. Maybe zenon didnt notice the patcher running a few weeks ago, but i think now droids have many uses beyond just combat. The DE community is a great one because of how close knit and cooperative we are with each other; our ongoing contribution to the betterment of this game as a whole; and the politeness by which we welcome new members (well mostly it would seem). I dont think anyone needs to be on the defensive in this thread i just think the established DEs want nuBs to understand what it takes to really be a master of this profession if they wish to do so. And this last point isnt to make us MDEs feel superior its because we want new DEs to be successful.



Jenar
Master Droid Engineer
Director - Cabal of the Toothy Maw
Cult of Sarlacc (Starsider)

"It's the accumulation of small pinpricks over time that causes one to bleed to death" -- Shian Tavkin, Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan
Envoy3113
Tue May 11, 2004 10:40 am
#19

Ouch...



I grinded my way to MDE, after I spent a few days dwelling on the forum taking in as much info as possible. I thought I was well prepaired.



I've been MDE for about a month and a half, just last night I was able to acctually put a good deal of stock on my vendor. It takes alot and just reading here you will not understand it. You need to play with the droids you build, then destroy em to make room for more. You need to build utter crap, and understand why it is utter crap, send it into a lair of mottled wrix and run. Your next assembly will be better. You need to get feed back from the people you provide your droids with. See what works well, and what can be done without.



YOU NEED WEEKS OF FACTORY RUNS, build two factories next to eachother and make your droids right out front. Helps if you are as disorganized as I am, this way all your components are a click away. If you acctually have room in your personal inventory, chances are, you are missing something.



Good luck, you have alot of back tracking to do, IE. Look at your final desired deed, see what components you need. Look at each component, see what components the components need. And yes, components of the components for the components.







There comes a time in every mans life when 86 years is just too damn long...
GoC_Tweek
Tue May 11, 2004 3:19 pm
#20

wow, such love.... i thought "robot" makers would be alot nicer... but i guess not... ill just have to figure it out on my own. i just didntwant to waist all my rare resources on stuff that wont sell... thanks for nothing....



oh, and come try to find me, i never back down from a challenge.. will take you on anytime jerk...





TweekerD of Namenlose Stadt, Corellia
TweekerD's Mall @ /wayp -283 -5776, South of Coronet
Selling: Popular Droids, BH Droids, Loot Pieces, Melee Weapons, and NPC Loot
_KernMist
Tue May 11, 2004 4:01 pm
#21

Tweek, I think you misunderstand most of the posts here. If you are really serious about becoming a good Droid Engineer then you will be more than welcome in these boards. The problem I think most people saw was your initial post. The implication was that you wanted a quick fix for understanding droids.


As I believe some has said above (Sunfire?) there is no quick fix. If you have questions along the way then asking in these boards will result in many good answers. The unfortunate problem for you is that to truely understand it you will HAVE to waste your rare resources. Out of all the professions available it is almost a *requirement* that you use your rares up.


As for things that won't sell - it's entirely server dependant. I would recommend getting to know and chat with a DE on Bria. You'll benefit a lot from 'apprenticing' to another Master for a couple of weeks.


Lastly (and I mean no disrespect when I say this, I really dont) you have signed your posts off as Master Power Gamer... this really is not the career path if you *are* a power gamer.. it's waaaay too slow to advance in order to power game DE


As for challenging everyone on the board to a fight and calling us jerks... everyone knows a DE on his own is useless in a fight so we'd all expect to be **edit**-slapped by a Durni let alone another player....



Wracca
Master Droid Engineer
Wracca's Palace of Droid Love, Mos Espa, Tatooine, Chimaera

Vendor: Maraac - Complete Droids, Mos Espa (-2395, 1403).
Vendor: Graak - Complete Droids, Mos Eisley (2468, -4652).
psikobunny
Tue May 11, 2004 5:09 pm
#22

There is no need to get hissy, at least with my post. I told you what you ought to do to understand droids better (lurk and read the FAQ), and I told you what you ought not to do (run around with your MDE tag). If you misunderstood my tone, well I'm sorry, but I'm a big believer in quality, and being somewhat professional when it comes to my profession.



Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



GoC_Tweek
Tue May 11, 2004 5:24 pm
#23

to kern and psiko and others who actually helped, i ment no disrespect to you, the above post was mainly addressed to the ones who posted hate-mail (eg skeenee, kevm, etc...), and the duel challenge was sent towards people like darthbukai.


several of you help and i appreciate it, i have found from several other posts what appears to sell, and i will try some other "inventions" of my own and see if they work.


as for the power gamer, i have an alt which is my de, ereah is my power gamer toon, made master tka/brawler/fencer in about 2 days of actual grinding...


thanks again,





TweekerD of Namenlose Stadt, Corellia
TweekerD's Mall @ /wayp -283 -5776, South of Coronet
Selling: Popular Droids, BH Droids, Loot Pieces, Melee Weapons, and NPC Loot
Faymar
Tue May 11, 2004 5:27 pm
#24

*falls over laughing*


If you felt you should get help, then why do the "look how fast I ground this up" reference? Unless you felt that was a means of getting respect?


I have cash. I havethree houses and a few factories holding resources.I could probably get any profession in a day, if that's what I chose to do.It's not hard; don't try to get respect that way.


You not only don't know how to "make a bot" you aren't sure what you are trying to make. A question of "what is a combat cluster" gets a much more patient response here than I would have ever imagined. "How do I make a bot" is simply unanswerable.


I don't believe you have the resources to get master DE in 4 days but don't know the feeling in most professions towards hologrinders. The challenge of DE and crafting in SWG (and why I love it fwiw) is that it's not just about clicking. Being able to think and understand actually makes a difference. Not always a big one (and as much as I moan about hard caps, pity the architects where a BER 14 is a BER 14 and there is no way you can use your resources/skill tapes/imagination to improve that) but it is generically there.


Walking in and saying "okay, so how do I make the top class droid without wasting resources" is a nonsense question. Use your resources to learn; it's not a waste.


It's like walking into a haute cuisine message board and saying "I want to make the perfect cake without breaking eggs." Learn to make scrambled eggs first, for goodness sake! Find out what the different types of dough are.Make cakes and learn as you go. Accept that some people love chocolate cake, others much prefer a sponge. Work on making the best you can make and accept that sometimes your cake just doesn't rise. But everyone likes a slice of cake even if not the best and maybe, with a bit of luck and a lot of hard work, you'll make something excellent. But all the recipe magazines in the world won't help if you don't take a risk and break an egg to start.



-Fay

(admittedly food obsessed)
GoC_Tweek
Wed May 12, 2004 7:25 am
#25

/sigh


yet another clarification...


im not asking what specific resources make the best possible outcome... im just asking what modules, packets, etc. are worth making, and which will sit on my vendor for ever and not get sold. as for not breaking eggs, i know i will have to do my best to use up what i have to get the best results, i was just hopping for a nudge in the right direction to help support my guild and the community...



TweekerD of Namenlose Stadt, Corellia
TweekerD's Mall @ /wayp -283 -5776, South of Coronet
Selling: Popular Droids, BH Droids, Loot Pieces, Melee Weapons, and NPC Loot
mrbleemo
Wed May 12, 2004 9:27 am
#26

I think some people are being a bit harsh here, sure he grinded the whole way and it's not something i could do personally. But the thing is he did in fact admit to this and admit that he couldn't even make a droid, he didn't come on here saying, "hullo i'm master De in 4 days, i own jooz!!!"

I can understand that you are angry because you all took your time and he hasn't and you feel he may have cheated himself. But it was his choice from the start and now when he actually gets around to making the droids, he can actually make droids that people will want to buy, he can experiment to the fullest of his ability. I mean you don't have to have made a droid at intermediate to understand that a droid made by a master DE will be better. I mean lets face it, it's not rocket science here, he can spend a few days learning the ropes either by trial and error and have a pretty decent setup going within a short time indeed, especially as he has saved his good resources.

In some senses i don't blame him, the early going of this profession is tedious, in that you grind a level and you can only make crap, you grind a level and you can only make crap. I don't want to sell shoddy made droids so i won't, therefore even at about half way 3-2-1-4, i pretty much have nothing to sell. I won't sell a practically unexperimented probot with only level 3 armour and a combat module in, because i know they can get better. Barker droids can be made by low level DE's and only those with adv 4 can program them, so there's not many sales there. Most rangers/scouts think the scouting droids are a joke and the datapad modules are a joke. So how do I finance my "profession," artisan missions. So far my droid sales have been 1 kind person begging me to make her an r5 droid, even though i admitted it would be sub par (she new about the rigours of DE and took pity), 1 fugitive tracking droid for about 1k for a noob who needed a basic protection droid at a cheap price and an advanced mouse droid for a few hundred creds to a mate lol.

If i actually cared about making virtual credits on mass, i would probably would have dropped this profession. The reason i picked up this profession was because it seemed more star warsy then CH and i wanted a probot at my side (I think you can all guess by now i'm holding out for a battle droid too lol). I'm also a bit of a tinker in real life too with pc's so it spoke to me in that sense too and to be honest i don't care about being a big player business wise, i just want to have fun. Any time a game feels like a job i'm gone anyway, i play this game to relax from college/study.

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