Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: FYI: Probot nerf
Yes Holo has posted lots in the CH thread, obviously he feels his time is better spent there than here
Probably because many more players are CH than DE - cause and effect, make DE's gimped to start with a CH uber and you tell me where all the powergamers are going to go.
It looks like he more worried about DE customers than DE's themselves
Vyndice wrote:
KGJV,
Hate to say this bud but you dont know what the (insert curse) your talking about. The game has been out for a month andyou honestly think a casual gamer couldnt get engineering IV then novice DE thats 4 of the base skill boxes for artisan and1 skill box for DE, gimme a break, its around 50k general crafting to get to novice DE and easily doablefor someone who plays a few hours a night for a month. If your a novice marksman after a month of play then thats not casual gaming, thats just yousucking at online RPGs. Dont pull this crap of DEs making probots are powergamers and deserve to be nerfed, not only are you missing the point of these posts, but you make yourself look like a fool for not knowing what your talking about. For future reference, know your bum from a hole in the ground before you drill casual gamers of your illegid powergaming.
To Holo and the Devs, all I can say is, this is BS. Instead of fixing the class and then nerfing the probots, you totally stick it in all the DEs. Ive found its to much to ask for the Devs to come down from their godly pedestals to spend 5 minutes responding to the ideas DEs have been suggesting on the boards for improvements. Instead, you neglect your player base and only tell them things so that you can live with yourself in the morning. The more I deal with SOE Devs, the more I realize how much you really dont care. You view your customers like pets, tame them with nerfs then feed them a doggy treat later, if you feel so inclined. Sad very sad.
Lol,
Man, relax youlook so p***ed. This is just a game.
FYI, Islowed down DE when Ihit inter droid blueprints cause it became clear to me that this part of the game wasnt ready (buged/untested/unbalanced).Aside of this I'm a novice pistoleer, master scout, master medic so dont give me that "thats just yousucking at online RPGs" . The whole point is here, explain me how building 300+ MSE is RP? Ina "real RP spirit" , arent you supposed to sell these , even more to build them on demand ? So dont talk about RPG plz.
This a RP game not a 'double click on the box as fast as you can' game. But I bet RP is too much a challenge for you.
So I'll stand on this one: with the current status of the game, a casual gamer that plays RP cant be at novice DE level.
"Dont pull this crap of DEs making probots are powergamers and deserve to be nerfed.." You didnt get my point. AllI was sayingis that "DEs making probots" deserved what they get by leveling too fast within a buged/untested/unbalanced profession (andby focusing on that only profession). SOE used them as beta-testers for adv techs. It's the probots that are nerfed not the DE profession (whichSTILLneed to fixed and balanced).
KaGe
If there IS a new generation of combat droids coming out, fine. This whole "nerf first, fix when we get around to it" is still bull**edit** in the highest order. As a BH, this is the second time I've had my legs cut out from under me. The first time, with the knockdown shot, it wasn't too bad cause thedroid could take some of the heat. Now, until they "get around to it" what the hell are we supposed to do? My novice BH missions are against 10k HP mobs that have shot me for 2200+ with advanced rapid fire.
One mob wiped out me, an advanced LVL4 armored probot and a few pieces of my armor. All this at a "novice" mission?!
For a change, try helping a little to offset the nerfing, Holo. With all our brokenmissions, now you're making it so we can hardly, if at all, complete even the so-called "easy" ones.
I Gave up,
I deleted Titanis MacSoncho on Syclla Server!He was 3 skill boxs away from Master Droid Engineer. My PA was really upset "Elite Rebel Alliance" But You left me no option as a hardcore gamer. I refuse to waste anymore time with these SOE idiots onany sorta trade skillsystem. What a bunch or Morons.3 Boxs from MDE. Then they go and nerf it to the point wherethere is no reward for me tokeep leveling. All Icansay is there STUPID!!!!Holo and teamif you were in front of me I would stick myfoot up your Youknow what for being so Stupid and FIRE you all on the spot and get replacments!!
I think you are blowing this out of propotion. (I sincerly truly hope) They have already said that this is a temp fix. Not a permenant nerf.
Also, Dev's please go read the droid correspondent thread, there's some great ideas over there. (I don't know what our correspondent has/will said/say in his conversations with you, but there is a lot of good stuff over there that would make droids viable.) I understand that some of it wouldn't be easy to code, but come on, we need SOMETHING. I hope we get a real fix sometime within the next week? (or is that just wishful thinking)
Holo, could you please give us some form of ETA as to when a real fix will be implemented?
KGJV,
Your about as ignorant as come, first people can get to novice DE selling couplers and roleplaying easily in a month. Your pathetic attempt to justify your initial post by saying people arent playing the game right by them not roleplaying there way to novice DE is ludicrous. Just because people dont play "Your Way" doesnt mean they should be nerfed. Reply back when you have realized the world doesnt rotate around you and that there is no right play style, its whatever the person enjoys.
Rand02 wrote:
Wow, I really have to wonder if Holo's even looking at this thread anymore. I mean, looking at the Dev tracker, he's been to the Starstrider down thread (an important issue admitedly) HOW many times? He's even meandered his way over to the CH thread a time or two, but this one, the big nerf, the profession destroying nerf has fallen by the wayside. *sigh
Its Holocron's policy not to answer controversial posts because it 'fans the flames' - I doubt you'll be hearing from him again until the next nerf. If we're lucky, maybe he'll come by with some good news like, "Storage modules work now!"
..... *yawn*.....
All I can say is most of u guys are idiots...
Blaming Holo for the nerf is stupid. Like he's alone making decisions. The point is that PBots are to strong right now and it's killing parts of the game. Christ... its been 3 weeks and we have Master DE's and invincible PBots running around everywhere... Eveyone as 3 houses and 5 factories. If there is no nerfing, in 3 months max, everyone will have mastered all they can and explored everything before SOE can even try and have a expansion out.
If you tought the game was coming out perfect and balanced, all I can say is u lack experience. It took over 6 months for DOAC to start being balanced... Thats how Online games have always worked. Shouting at Devs on forums won't make things better. They are doing what they can and have to. Heck, if ur so mad, go make ur own game... No one is forcing u to play here.
And why can't u still sell PBots for 20K? Cause players are selling them for 5K... not Devs forcing prices on us but players...
If a simple nerf is getting u all that mad... maybe you should ask urself some questions... its a game... not real life and there's other things worst then a game nerf... Go read other profession forum... it's all the same... everyone is whining about there profesions being the gimp one...
And don't bother replying to this...
Holo, if you are still reading this thread, I would like to repost an idea here that I think you should take a look at while you are redesigning the DE profession.
I say do away with the action specific modules and make them droid specific. If you want medical capabilities, you should be forced to use a surgical droid. If you want data storage, use a MSE. If you want equipment storage, use a load lifter. If you want attack abilities use a probot. If you want navigation(possibly with the space expansion), use a R2 unit. If you want crafting stations, use a R5.
Each player has the ability to store 5 droids in their datapad (If I am correct). This is more than enough to have all your bases covered. You should be able to pull a droid out at any given time to fit your needs. This will give every tier droid usefulness and every tier droid engineer customers.
If people think the module tree would be useless, you could argue to create a weaponry tree. If we have armor modules 1-6, add blasters 1-6. It would give Master DE's a leg up over people who powerskill to Master blueprints because they will be able to make far better droids than someone who cant make good armor and weapons for their probots.
Everyone will be happy and fix the profession, I think this would work!!