Doctor Archive
Thread: Buff Prices Time for an increase I think.
JonnJack
Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:44 am
#53
I'll stand in a starport (or near a cantina) and GIVE buffs away for an hour or more when I think the doctors there are jacking the people for too much (ANYTHING over 10k in my opinion).
DarkDeathDude
Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:11 am
#54
All buffs should be free, and all people who get buffed should give Docs 15% of the creds they earn from the free Doc buffs
simple
Songe
Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:17 am
#55
Haha never gonna happen.
On Sunrunner most buff packs suppliers have closed, and people are already complaining of not finding any doc buffing. The situation is going to be interesting.
ulfmanDE
Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:54 am
#56
i am buffing for 10k, no matter how much others charge. mad more on uber janta buffs for sure, blood is rare.
i have a decent income like that.
to think of "how much can one make with buffs" is a joke, bad one. think bout pvp, no income then, buffs last only min. then (sometimes)...
imagine every profession thinks that way..lol... armor costs millions then, weapons too, chefs charging 500k for crate of brandy: calculating how long u could run missions with their stuff...oh and smugglers saying: "i charge 100 per %, but if u get a 30%+ dmg slice, then 100k, cause then the weapon is worthy and u make lot of cash on missions or sale".......
calculate yr profit. if resource prices rise, i charge more. if they stay, prices stay.
ulfmande
Greenbulb
Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:31 am
#57
I've stoped buffing people mostly because of the complaints the costermers give me.
I'd consiter buffing again if they grow up and let me price 11k (its only 1k more! i mean what is 1k? 
)
)i've seen less people buffing in coronet on intrepid infact most of the time none is buffing......
we already have a doctors club on Intrepid also..i think theres 20 master doctors in it atm.
i have no doubt that the prices will go higher because less doctors are buffing
That and the holo grind is over ya know...
Eyedun
Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:36 pm
#58
well.. i set myself up in the starport on Corellia tonight on Kettemoor while i waited for the shuttle. I had 8 sets of buff's left. The line at the other doc was about 20+ people. I sat down and have 4 or 5 tells. i ignored them till i was setup then announced i was buffing for 30K with little to no line (even though i had 11 people lined up already). 3 or 4 of those went back to the long line, thats fine. I sold al lmy buffs in under 6 minutes, and most of the people understood when i explained why i charged so much.. and a few remarked that 10K, 30k.. who cares.
i was buffing for 2380 points (2500 action) for 2 hrs 45 mins. i sold all 8 sets (240K worth) very quickly. anyone who complained was politely informed that there was another Dr buffing and if they hurried.. they might only have to wait 20-30 mins.
i was buffing for 2380 points (2500 action) for 2 hrs 45 mins. i sold all 8 sets (240K worth) very quickly. anyone who complained was politely informed that there was another Dr buffing and if they hurried.. they might only have to wait 20-30 mins.
GJHipius
Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:24 pm
#59
Eyedun -
WELL played! PERFECT. That is using the natural market dynamics to their fullest. Kudos!
- Hypocrates Ba'alrog (near Dearic in Talus on Valcyn) -
TheRockStar
Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:51 pm
#60
Whoa this thread just goes on, doesn't it?
For the initial post I think as lots of people have said they can see both perspectives, e.g. the potential for money making increases and often relies on buffs, so prices can go up, but then not players will go make that money...
For the initial post I think as lots of people have said they can see both perspectives, e.g. the potential for money making increases and often relies on buffs, so prices can go up, but then not players will go make that money...
What I do like is the concept of spreading it out to the lower level docs - that formula you have is really interesting - were buffs as good as they are now right at the start, we may have seen something like that come in. As it is, ain't nobody interested in a buff now unless it comes from master doc with bio clothes a little bivoli thrown in for good measure 
One other point to consider is that sadly people continue to purchase resources at silly prices. Increasing buff prices just gives those people charging 300cpu for nice avian a little more scope torip off... but I guess people will continue to buy... oh well.
I think docs should just charge what they wanna charge. Forget the market value. It wouldn't be considered polite to sit next to someone and undercut them, but if one guy wants to charge 8k and another girl wants to charge 18k, so be it - people are daft enough to pay whatever you charge, and you don't have to reply to any grief that comes in!
I honestly believe you could state the price is 25k...50k... 100k - do what you like, and let your conscience guide you. People will pay it. So just do it and forget about any grief that comes in from it, be in /tells, shouting or forum flames (like I'm gonna ignore any replies to this hehehe).
Personally, I've never buffed anyone for more than 6k - ever, but I'm not what you'd call a retailer, I only ever really buff guildies anyway and they get freebies, and just can't be bothered with the retail side of it. But we're the players, so the decisions are all our own
dilandau23
Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:07 am
#61
I say charge what you want....whatever it is if i am buffing at the same time as you and my buffs are the same strength as yours, I will undersell you by at least 2k and if you charge 20k+ then i'll undersell you by even more. You will never be able to stop me. This is capitalism! Mwahahaha!
GJHipius
Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:17 pm
#63
Sure did, White. Point well made.
There are a lot of things that are very similar within the game structure. Another one: mission terminals (to a large extent). For some character templates, terminals can turn you a profit, but the time invested is just so much longer than if you do other things with your skills for a profit. And so, you rarely see some varieties of terminals used.
*sidenote point to consider: do you play the game to turn a profit of credits, even if the tasks you undergo to do so are not what you'd consider fun? If so... you do know that credits are PRETEND, right? Heh. Just checking.*
Still just falls into the category of "how much the doc feels he is worth" or "how much the doc feels he/she has to charge to bother", though - and in that vein, it just contributes to the regular organic economy.
On my server Valcyn, there is always someone buffing during common playing hours, and usually several, all in the Coronet commons. In other galaxies, people seem to be reporting that enough doctors are ceasing to buff that it might actually have an impact on price. But one way or the other, it's not the time, or cost of materials, or any other resource for that matter that actually chooses the price... it's the doctors buffing that collectively do. Those other factors influence the doctors some, perhaps, but it is still totally in the hands of the docs, and I still remain skeptical that the majority of docs will ever start charging more than 12 K.
There are some exceptions. If you are one, and you are successful, it is because you are wisely playing the supply / demand market - and kudos to you!
Here's an interesting observation I can't take credit for (heard it from another Doc today, who cited the same plan as I): Here, he says,is the natural life span of many healing players:
Minor healing to level Medic for decent heal and wound tending skills
Med Center, Cantina, or the field to Master Medic
A long time more of the above, or more commonly (sadly) a grindfest to Master Doctor
Buffing for a bit and a little added shooting for enough XP for Combat Medic
More buffing to enough Med XP to Master Combat Medic (make a little money as just an added bonus)
I don't know if that's true for a large proportion as he surmised. I do admit that I'm buffing and heavy Med Center healing my way to enough Medical XP to level through Combat Medic before I even try to make use of the skills. Unless we're both in for a surprise somewhere along the way, the profession almost powerlevels itself just by buffing, a skill in an entirely different profession.
Someone set me right if I'm wrong please?
- Hypocrates Ba'alrog -
DrSuperfly
Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:45 pm
#64
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. Publius Syrus
0Mandalorian0
Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:07 pm
#65
Thats what I have been saying the whole time. Me a doc/tk I buff people for 12k all the time. I sigh becase I'm doing this for them not me. I could go out and make like eyedun said around 600k. So I buff for other peoples benifit. For some reason some people belive docs should and have to buff everyone....ignorant.