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Thread: I think this sould be our moto.

JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:54 am
#40






slabby wrote:

I wonder why certain posters in this thread always get their posts closed why the rest of us do not?


More Facts, no name calling.


Read the community rules, which unlike the EULA, you ARE in violation of multiple times over on this board.





Wow, didn't realize the one thread I had closed was all of my posts or that I was the only one who ever had one closed. Thanks for enlightening me.


As for name calling, I have a stalker that likes to follow me around tossing weak insults at me. Nothing is done about it so I take care of it myself. If the rules were enforced equally and for everybody I wouldn't have to resort to defending myself like that.





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Tiku_Giammo
Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:55 am
#41






1Kylekatarn1 wrote:





Tiku_Giammo wrote:

there are faster ways to master doc afk....




Are they Legal? didn't think so.




yes, 100% legel, nice try hotshot.....




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vortexala
Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:35 pm
#42






JasonK wrote:

Whichhelps the community more,having more master docs (AFKers) sellingquality products orhaving more low level docs (non-AFKers) selling crappy products? AFKers win.


Which helps the community more, someone who makes the best possible meds for sale because they know what they're doing or someone who holo'd Doc and doesn't know the difference between an ALS and a ASDS?


Whichhelps the community more,having more master docs (AFKers) giving3000 buffs or having morelow level docs (non-AFKers) giving 1000 buffs? AFKers win again.


Which helps the community more, someone who can give 3000 pt buffs to only themselves and their friends or someone who gladly gives out 1000pt buffs to the community as a whole?


Which helps the community more, having more master docs (AFKers) giving E stims to the hunting party and rezing the dead or having morelow level docs (non-AFKers) giving B and C stims to the hunting party and the dead having to clone? AFKers win again.


Which helps the community more, a dedicated Doc who will do everything possible to keep whatever group he's in alive or someone who only uses his ability for himself and his friends?


Which helps the community more, having a master doc run an AFK buff bot in his house (AFKers) or not being able to get a buff in the middle of the night (non-AFKers)? AFKers win yet again.


This is actually a good example of the usefulness of AFKers.


And on a side note, which helps the community more, having more entertainers available 24/7 in more cantinas (AFKers) or havingentertainers less available to heal your mind (non-AFKers)? AFKers win.


Since I'm not an entertainer and have not said anything in this thread against AFK Entertainers, I really have nothing to say on this subject within the confines of this thread.


Master of any class beats those in the lower levels hands down.


This statement is true regardless of how someone mastered their profession, whether AFK or at the keyboard. It's one of those 'duh' statements that usually goes without saying. Yet that doesn't mean an AFK Master beats a ATK Master in any way, shape or form(exception previously noted).


And yes, I know there areexamples that you would like to rebut that comment with about how a novice pistoleer once beat a master pistoleer and whatnot. No idea what you're referring to, I've never made or used that example before. I'm talking about average player skill levels, or for ease of understanding, YOU as a master doc are much better than YOU as a low level doc. And yet again, another one of those 'duh' statements that should go without saying.


You seem fixated on saying that an AFKer is automatically better then someone who play ATK all the time, and you continue to use examples of a AFK who has Mastered a profession compared to an ATK who is still progressing through the profession. Why? Is this the only way you can prove that someone who is AFK is better then an ATK? See, this is where we go back to the 'Duh' statements of 'A Master of a profession beats a Novice of a Profession'. It goes without saying and to use it as a basis of an argument is rather ridiculous.


If you're using it as a way to show that an AFKer can get there faster then an ATKer, I will point you once again to the fact that an ATKer can get the title of Master just as quickly as an AFKer, or in such a short time afterwards that the time difference is negligable.


It's obvious that you are, for some reason or another, under the mistaken impression that an AFKer is automatically better(comparatively and for the community) then an ATKer. I know this to be false, from personal experience, and that your reasoning is flawed simply due to your own bias on the subject.


Suffice it to say that I believe that AFKers have their place, but they do not outclass an ATKer in any meaningful way.










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vortexala
Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:52 pm
#43






JasonK wrote:


  1. AFKmedicsgive better buffs thereby giving the community members greater advantages.

  2. AFK medicsgive better heals and are therefore better to havefor increased heals.




Both those statements are from you on page 1. In each you claim that an AFKer is better then a non-AFKer.I took that to mean, as it appears to me to say, that you infer superiority to an AFKer across the board.Step back, read it for yourself, and then come back and tell me if you wouldn't get the samemeaning.


As for the resulting examples of Master(any) beating Non-Master(any), lets simply leave it at the basic 'duh' statement level and not argue that fact.


Regarding the 'casual' player not playing enough to earn as much xp as an AFKer, I reiterate the fact that withinone week(generous timeframe) a Casual player who is on for 2 hours per night can master the profession. This would be just about the same overall timeframe an AFKer spends to master the profession(total, not chronologically). So, overall, the time taken to master the profession is meaningless(in this particular argument for this instance)


To say that the AFKer is better simply because he is a Master sooner then a non-AFKerreturns us to the 'duh' statement.


We've already gone over why you think an AFKer is better for the community and my own responses to those statements.


So, disregarding any argument whichwill return us yet again to the 'duh' statement,what otherevidence would you like to present to show that an AFKer is better?




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TandisJargin
Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:57 pm
#44

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
I just made a thread suggesting something as a joke and it turns into bloodbath 3000. Ok all step away from the keyboard call a 1-900 number and calm down lol. Show some love.




Tandis
Medical Know It ALL
Obsidian Mineral Co
"Your Wanna Be Community Leader"


vortexala
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:00 pm
#45

Sorry Tandis. I walked into the thread to see if any good mottos came up, or perhaps something funny. Who knew I was walking into an argument and would get caught in the flame crossfire?



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Retired Mayor of Vesania, Corellia, Chilastra
Retired Combat Medic Correspondent(Feb 04 - Dec 04)

"A Day without sunlight is like.... night."
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Play at your own risk, but don't blame us...
Tiku_Giammo
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:15 pm
#46

you guys take this game way, WAYYY to seriously.



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vortexala
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:16 pm
#47






Tiku_Giammo wrote:
you guys take this game way, WAYYY to seriously.






You think this is taking it too serious, shoulda seen some of the old threads on the Discussion board. Now that was taking it too serious



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Retired Combat Medic Correspondent(Feb 04 - Dec 04)

"A Day without sunlight is like.... night."
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JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:27 pm
#48






vortexala wrote:







JasonK wrote:


Let's see, I can think of a few reasons AFKers speeding through professionsbenefit the community:



  1. AFKmedicsgive better buffs thereby giving the community members greater advantages.

  2. AFK medicsgive better heals and are therefore better to havefor increased heals.

The AFKer gains XP while AFK thereby severly reducing the time it takes to gain mastery. That's all the quicker that the specific AFKer will be able to have better buffs and heals compared to if he didn't earn XP while AFK. Not that he's better than a different doctor.





Both those statements are from you on page 1. In each you claim that an AFKer is better then a non-AFKer.I took that to mean, as it appears to me to say, that you infer superiority to an AFKer across the board.Step back, read it for yourself, and then come back and tell me if you wouldn't get the samemeaning.


As for the resulting examples of Master(any) beating Non-Master(any), lets simply leave it at the basic 'duh' statement level and not argue that fact.


Regarding the 'casual' player not playing enough to earn as much xp as an AFKer, I reiterate the fact that withinone week(generous timeframe) a Casual player who is on for 2 hours per night can master the profession. This would be just about the same overall timeframe an AFKer spends to master the profession(total, not chronologically). So, overall, the time taken to master the profession is meaningless(in this particular argument for this instance)


To say that the AFKer is better simply because he is a Master sooner then a non-AFKerreturns us to the 'duh' statement.


We've already gone over why you think an AFKer is better for the community and my own responses to those statements.


So, disregarding any argument whichwill return us yet again to the 'duh' statement,what otherevidence would you like to present to show that an AFKer is better?






You left out the quailifing partof the quote and the subsequent post where I further explained it.I bolded it so maybe you won't miss it this time. Does it say I think they're better? No, it actually specifically states that I didn'tclaim they were better. Which, of course, you bring up yet again without quoting where I did say it. Probably because, forwhat seems like the millionth time, I NEVER CLAIMED THEM TO BE BETTER!!!!!


As for time, I'll just say that CAN and DO mean two different things. I think most ATKmasters DID NOT master in a week and most AFK masters DID master in under a week. So I guess we'll just have to disagree on that, cause unless somebody has a shred of evidence we can argue over it forever.


Please, unless you can post where I said they are better stop bringing it up. If you have no other point to argue just stop arguing cause you're just making stuff up and begging to get flamed, and if you think I'm flaming you now, you've never been flamed. Other than my retarded stalker buddy mytchicken, I don't think I've insulted anybody in here.





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vortexala
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:58 pm
#49


First, the two lines I quoted from you earlier are fromthe firstpost of yours that brought me into this thread originally(which I seem to be regretting more and more). Taken on it's own, even with your 'qualifying' line regarding 'benefitting the community', it still implies that an AFKer is better then a non-AFKer. Admit it or don't, it's there in black and white. THAT is the one main point I've been arguing. The second portion you addedfrom asubsequent posting i've already responded to earlier.


Secondly, I never said you flamed me. And no, I don't think anything you've posted to me has been a flame. Trust me, I know flames, I've been flamed by some of the best this community has to offer. Nothing you could say would raise my ire by even an iota.


Lastly, I haven't made a single thing up in any of my posts, I've been merely arguing the 'AFK provides better/is better' point. Don't like it? Tough. Is it a pointless argument? Perhaps, but then again so is everything else on these boards. To put it into perspective for you, replace 'AFK' in those first two lines I quoted earlier with 'Master' and what do we have? A return to the 'duh' statement. We've already argued the 'better for the community' angle, and the speed issue isn't worthwhile. So, I guess that means I'm done with you.


Ah well...



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Retired Mayor of Vesania, Corellia, Chilastra
Retired Combat Medic Correspondent(Feb 04 - Dec 04)

"A Day without sunlight is like.... night."
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Play at your own risk, but don't blame us...
TandisJargin
Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:26 pm
#50

/smacks himself on his head and wonders why he is a doctor. You ALL SHAME ME. /closes thread. LOL




Tandis
Medical Know It ALL
Obsidian Mineral Co
"Your Wanna Be Community Leader"


JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:42 pm
#51


I guess you can choose to interpret it any way you want. Why you would interpret it the way you did after I explained it as comparing one AFKer to himself playing ATKI don't know.Whatever, at least we agree on the duh statement.





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sweatyclimber
Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:00 pm
#52






MyT_Chicken wrote:





JasonK wrote:





MyT_Chicken wrote:








JasonK wrote:




Go troll somebody else loser.






Thats all you can say....yeah you really are moresmart then I thought. Can't even prove me wrong...just shows us how really bright you truely are. Keep shining maybe you will get a medal.






Actually, if you learned to read you would see my comments unindented in the midst of the quote. Dumbass. The more you try and insult my intelligence the stupider you look. Keep it up.








Actually "Dumbass" I read your stupid little comments.....and you still didn't prove anything. Do you have a forum posting Macro, so all you do is hit reply and say the same BS over and over and over and over. Yeah...thats what I thought. Get a life.





he macro's the reply of the same crap in every thread here, music you name it anywhere so he can feel better about his over inflated ego



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