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Thread: biggest ripoff iv seen yet
DarthXanthic wrote:
Wrong.
Xconxors wrote:
Lets not forget that qualitymed resourcesALSO cost quite a bit. less than 10cpu is unusual, and 20-50 cpu is common. Avian isnt the only spendy thing going into a buff.
A doc only gets rich if he's willing to give up having any fun and spend hours in coronet laboriously dishing out buffs to abusive people, and living in tell hell the entire time.
My favorite part is trying to close the line when I'm done. Evenif you call the stop point so no onewaited unneccesarily, the next guy to get in line will scream and holler. Docs that avoid buff whoring are NOT rich, I assure you.
actually hes not wrong imo, i know afew doc's who have poor cambat skills and a friend of someone i know how no combat skills.. their only way of making any type of cash is to either buff or sell stims, you arnt going to get rich or make much cash by healing people or resing them or cureing their disease/poison cos as we all know noone wants to pay, they do make money but they are in no way what so ever rich but having said that i supose it depends what u call rich
I make 5mil + daily selling buff packs.
No combat skills required, although I do hunt a lot of my own meat, it isn't necessary.
DarthXanthic wrote:
I make 5mil + daily selling buff packs.
No combat skills required, although I do hunt a lot of my own meat, it isn't necessary.
lol i dont really have a comment, appart from.. that ALOT of time sat selling buffs at 10k or what ever.. in another thread i read u only use janta blood to make packs, so 5mill aday sellin buffs + all the time it takes to hunt janta to get the blood (ok u might buy some but still) ahahaha i really cant type what im thinking so i think i'll stop
No No I don't sell buffs, I sell buff packs to other doctors.
I charge 100ka set; so if I average 50 sets a day sold, that's 5mil a day.
I hunt jantas with my friends mainly to get them money because I have an atst and a lot of my friends are die hard PvP'ers with no way to make money besides missions.
I don't only make janta packs, I just enjoy making them.
Tiberian74 wrote:
abot 10mins ago i was in coronet and someone was shouting - selling 760 units of avain meat for 50k!
i could not believe what i was seeing and even took a screenie
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cable.giy/screen/screenShot0398.jpg
it really does sadden me that these people are out there and some newbie doc who knows no better might even buy this
You think that's bad? try 150:1 for any avian meat with a HIGH oq 900+ who cares if the rest of the stats suck. On Kettemoor my toon is a master doc. I have tried hiring one reasonably priced ranger to collect good quality avian meat for me. To no avail most want 150:1 for avian meat in rotation. But then the same people will flip out of you sell your buffs for 12k then? HOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A PROFIT? honestly? then the newest problem has arrizen. Everyone and their brother is master docs now. Thus competition drive buffs down in price.
Basically it's a frustrating mess either way you look at it. Everyone wants to be rich (greedy bastiches).
Olepi wrote:
Tiberian74 wrote:
abot 10mins ago i was in coronet and someone was shouting - selling 760 units of avain meat for 50k!
i could not believe what i was seeing and even took a screenie
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cable.giy/screen/screenShot0398.jpg
it really does sadden me that these people are out there and some newbie doc who knows no better might even buy this
You think that's bad? try 150:1 for any avian meat with a HIGH oq 900+ who cares if the rest of the stats suck. On Kettemoor my toon is a master doc. I have tried hiring one reasonably priced ranger to collect good quality avian meat for me. To no avail most want 150:1 for avian meat in rotation. But then the same people will flip out of you sell your buffs for 12k then? HOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A PROFIT? honestly? then the newest problem has arrizen. Everyone and their brother is master docs now. Thus competition drive buffs down in price.
Basically it's a frustrating mess either way you look at it. Everyone wants to be rich (greedy bastiches).
since i made the initial post i have actually took more notice of what people are selling avan for regaredless of stats and all i can do is LOL at some of the stuff being sold, on the bazaar, on vendors, people spamming on coronet etc, since i started playing last november i have always hunted my own stuff no matter what it is as i like hunting, its my thing and i never read the endless spam or look on the bazaar/vendors for meat, only thing i looked for was dolovite and good gas on vendors and the bazaar.
on if i had taken more notice over the last 6 months or so since i mastered doc maybe i would not have posted this as i see avain with oq 300 or so pe 470 sometimes even worse selling for simulor prices.. or trying to be sold forat prices anyway.
one of the problems i believe is that people dont actually know what the stats mean and jst think 'hey its avain meat i can make a small fortune with this!'
as for people being greedy imo this is one of the worse mmo games i have played for people either trying to rip you off, being rude and abusive etc, having played OU for 2 years or so, DAoC for about 8 months and EQ for abit, before anyone say yes i know people tryed to scam u in there etc but i found there was not as many scamming you, being rude to you etc. Ive put this down to more people playing this game because its 'starwars' and they would not usually play this type of game that what all the smack talk remind me of anyway (even more so when u PVP) maybe im wrong but i cant think of any other reason
Son, what you gotta realize here is the proper response you should have made early on is...
"Man I didnt realize the market for good Av meat was so lucrative". Then hefted up your peashooter and proceed to hunt swarms of avian meat dropping critters.
Any doc that doesnt make enough to support himself and make a little profit either...
1. Doesnt know what hes doin.
2. Has no idea how the economy in SWG works.
It has absolutly nothing to do with greed. The docs on this forum are not ripping anyone off. They provide a service for fair recompensation and in turn support the economy by purchasing resources that other players harvest. Its win/win.
This game doesnt have anymore or any less scamming than any other MMORPG, it was exaccerbated by the whole bank tip thing but that has been taken care of now.
Its the wonderful thing about this game is that the Economy is player driven. Prices are set by players for players. Essentially it is a free market economy where it is in the buyers interest to be knowledgeable about his purchases/sales.
I suspect your on the young side of life, certainly younger than many on this forum, doing a little research before making a post like you did here will save your burning ears later.
-Gooney
Gooney wrote:
Son, what you gotta realize here is the proper response you should have made early on is...
"Man I didnt realize the market for good Av meat was so lucrative". Then hefted up your peashooter and proceed to hunt swarms of avian meat dropping critters.
what the hell are you babbling on about.. my 'correct' responce was what i wrote.. thats why i wrote it.. i knew after about 2weeks how lucrative selling resource of any type was cos thatshow i made money... TKA/Master Scout and afew small harvs, i manly did it for friends and sold stuff at low price but i made a fair bit of cash, i then mastered medic got bored with scout and decided to go master doc.
Any doc that doesnt make enough to support himself and make a little profit either...
no where have i said you will not make money buying resouces what ever the cost
1. Doesnt know what hes doin.
i new doc to the sceen or new player to thegame will not know what hes doing
2. Has no idea how the economy in SWG works.
you call this an economy ? ahahaha in the bordest sence of the word then yes it is..
It has absolutly nothing to do with greed. The docs on this forum are not ripping anyone off. They provide a service for fair recompensation and in turn support the economy by purchasing resources that other players harvest. Its win/win.
yes it does.. its all to do with greed, why do people sit macroing the borgal cave (or what ever its called) for skill tapes, then sell them at X million credits, are you seriously trying to tell me its not through greed ? lets take doctors.. as has been porved in this forum you can sell buffs for 2 to 3k a full set and still make a profit so then why are people selling them for 10k or more.. obviously just for the extra cash.. so then thats a type of greed.. i coulod talk about wep smiths armor smiths who make stuff for 'afew k' then sell their goods at 50k+,100+, 500k+
This game doesnt have anymore or any less scamming than any other MMORPG, it was exaccerbated by the whole bank tip thing but that has been taken care of now
IMO it does maybe i was just lucky to play with a group of people who all helped each other out gave stuff they did not want to you for free or very little cost i very rarely see this in this game.
Its the wonderful thing about this game is that the Economy is player driven. Prices are set by players for players. Essentially it is a free market economy where it is in the buyers interest to be knowledgeable about his purchases/sales.
yes it is a free economy, the problem with that is people will not charge a good fair price because there are no rules, guidelines as such so there for people will want as much as they can get for everything no matter of the quality, and if its good quality people will continue to rise the price to make even more money, after noones going to stop them other see them selling for this price so inturn put their prices up till it all spirals out of control.
I suspect your on the young side of life, certainly younger than many on this forum, doing a little research before making a post like you did here will save your burning ears later.
im 29, i run my own small business and have doen for the past 7 years i have staff working for me and each week we seem to get buisyer and buisyer to the point of i thinking of hiring more people, care to comment on anything else you know nothing about?
-Gooney
Wow. If I had to guess, I'd say a construction type business huh?
Tiberian74 wrote:
im 29, i run my own small business and have doen for the past 7 years i have staff working for me and each week we seem to get buisyer and buisyer to the point of i thinking of hiring more people, care to comment on anything else you know nothing about?
-Gooney
Tiberian74 wrote:
abot 10mins ago i was in coronet and someone was shouting - selling 760 units of avain meat for 50k!
i could not believe what i was seeing and even took a screenie
Gooney wrote:
Guess I just assumed you were a youngin by reading your simple minded view of the economy. Not to mention the poor grammar and spelling...not that mine is perfect but I usually do start each sentance with a capital. Sorry on that count. You have so wittily proved me wrong ...I am shamed.
ahaha i find it amusing how the best argument people have is your spelling is poor you have used incorrect grammer, look im better than you cos i check ever single word i type to make sure everything is 100% correct - its only a forum get over it
Now as to the Greed, ok the borgle cave is most definatly greed. The doc buffs is simply what the market will bear. Its a natural evolution of cost/price/profit. A small business owner (of no less than 7 years experiance)should be able to figure that one out. Tell me. In your 29 years on this planet did you ever wonder why a gallon of diesle costs nearly the same as a gallon of gasoline, when infact the former is a byproduct of production of the later? Or a can of coca-cola how much does that cost to manufacture?
no where have i said in this thread that doc are making to much money form buffing, no where have i ever said people should not be making money from selling their goodsbut having said that your cost/price/proffit is not totaly right this is after all a game NOT the real world, in the real word people will not hold onto there goods untill x, y and z have sold theres then sell the exact same thing at 3times the market value because in the real world the guy holding onto his goods would not have any other income most likly and there go out of business, or sell at the market vaule or infact under cut the others selling the same thing, not wait 2 weeks untill hes only left with <what ever> and then whck the price right up.
trying to compaire the makesof pespsi or petrol or anything to this game is ridicules, these peoplemassproduce so much then sell it out at such a cheap price to super markets who buy it in such vast amounts that enablesthem to sell it to you at a very small cost i was going to give u an example but theres not much point as u doubt you would 'get it'
Now you so very carefully picked apart my post (which is your right) but did it in such an infintile manner as to be laughable.
yes and im doing it again, its the easiest way to answer each part so you know what im refuring to, i hope you find it as funny this time as you did before!
The profit margin on buffs is an accepted part of the game. What is it your complaining about? It has been documented and proven in hundreds of posts that any idiot sporting a set of 10k buffs can easily make hundreds of thousands of credits in the 3 hour time span the buffs are on. So you think that a Doc should sell those selfsame buffs for 3k....puuuhlease Mr. Businessman!
lol i refer you back to what i said earlier, nowhere have i said anything about doctors ripping people off, i can only think you have not read everything and just made bits up as you saw fit
the 3K thing was in responce to what you said in the last post, about making money and a profit and greed, i was simply pointing out that you can still make a small profit by selling your buffs at 3k, again you seem to have read my resopnce added your own little bit to it twisted it slightlyand then come out with that statment
Your welcome to charge what you want for your buffs, but Im hear to tell ya sitting and buffing is about as fun as watching grass grow. The only difference is that the grass usually doesnt pester you with stupid questions about "How High Will I Grow?" "How much rain will come today".
you make me laugh you really do, i now know you have not read anything i have posted apart form the 1st post.. so i will resay it for your benifit - i no longer sell buffs to the public, i have not sold buff now for about 4months i might buff the odd person if they have manors and dont demand i buff them (the last bit was added just for you... i bet you feel special now eh
i also know how boring sitting in coronet it selling buffs as i have done it alittle..
-Gooney
Tiberian74 wrote:
abot 10mins ago i was in coronet and someone was shouting - selling 760 units of avain meat for 50k!
i could not believe what i was seeing and even took a screenie
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cable.giy/screen/screenShot0398.jpg
it really does sadden me that these people are out there and some newbie doc who knows no better might even buy this
naboo avian a month or so ago was going for 200cpu...rediculous!!! i just harvested my own..ended up with 80k units of it!!
