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Thread: Buff Pack Prices!!

Slash_DPC
Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:31 am
#27



Raistlin27 wrote:
hmmm, I don't suppose you are rich as all **edit**? cause thats what i was getting out of your reply. anyone who is not rich as **edit**, please give your input





I'm sitting on 17 million credits, and thats not even nearly where I've peaked at. Got a problem w/ people being successful? It seems so, or more likes its just jealousy.





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Cygnusx11
Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:32 am
#28

People who still complaint about Buff pack price never tried to Craft some.........


C'mon, Im crafting my own buff pack since im doc (5 month ago) and let me tell u it does not take 30 mins......After 1 or 2 months of ressources gathering.. i dont wanna sell my buf pack for 30k... Hellllo...


All the docs complaining about the price of buff pack... get ur harsse in the field and craft some... and stop telling everybody that its overpriced....


If its overpriced.. its because there not enough Doc Crafting Buff pack... Ouuuuuuu what a revelation....


But that the reality...



Have a good day
RedAnubis
Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:00 am
#29






Raistlin27 wrote:

I know many of you who make buffs sell them to those who stand outside the coronet star port all day, and make gobs of cash. they then turn around and pay you a large sum for a new set of buffs, and the cycle goes on, with both parties making a large sum o dough. this is all fine and good, unless....


this process causes the price of a set of buffs to go up to around 150k (the current norm)


this is lame for these reasons

1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)

2. the cost staying so high drives the cost of a commercial buff up to 10 -15k, wich takes money out of everyones pocket, including everyone who would buy all your other products and services

3. It makes even being a doc to buff yourself worth very little, as you will only save about 40k when buying buff packs over just paying to be buffed (not at all worth the days spents grinding my ass off)



all these things are true. no doubts about it. flame, and you flame that wich is merely questoning the wong. but, have fun flaming the **edit** out of my post anyways losers....






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fscx
Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:12 am
#30

Is it me or is everyone complaining that master docs are trying to make money. Have a master doc working on master combat medic and i remember trying to get the med xp either i had to pay tumblers or go out and hunt wounds wiht droid (I mostly hunted wounds) and the times i was in a med center for a time I would see people come in and say Heal my wounds. So i go over heal there wounds and then they would walk out not tipping me just saying thanks, When i was hunting wounds it did not matter if i got tipped but a few times while out side fort tusken i got some of the med loot drops for free for my healing. My thought about this thread is that the people complaining about buff prices are those same players who come into a medcenter or tell you they need healing of wounds and dont tip. If you Tip the novice medics and doctors for wound tratment then maybe later thier buffs will be cheaper.


Just my 2 cents

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ZeroK0ol
Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:41 am
#31






Raistlin27 wrote:

I know many of you who make buffs sell them to those who stand outside the coronet star port all day, and make gobs of cash. they then turn around and pay you a large sum for a new set of buffs, and the cycle goes on, with both parties making a large sum o dough. this is all fine and good, unless....


this process causes the price of a set of buffs to go up to around 150k (the current norm)


this is lame for these reasons

1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)

2. the cost staying so high drives the cost of a commercial buff up to 10 -15k, wich takes money out of everyones pocket, including everyone who would buy all your other products and services

3. It makes even being a doc to buff yourself worth very little, as you will only save about 40k when buying buff packs over just paying to be buffed (not at all worth the days spents grinding my ass off)



all these things are true. no doubts about it. flame, and you flame that wich is merely questoning the wong. but, have fun flaming the **edit** out of my post anyways losers....





Avian = 138u x 325cpu = 44850


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=235958


Rea Gas = 138u x 40cpu = 5520


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=32646


Dolovite Iron = 96u x 25cpu = 2400


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=175983


Dom Oats = 96u x 10cpu = 960


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=91068


Herb Meat = 192u x 150cpu = 28800


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=225318


C4 Liq Petro = 192u x 60cpu = 11520


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=158930


Lok Wild Wheat = 234u x 4.6cpu = 1077


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=53304


Tat Fiberplast =234u x 40cpu =9360


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bria_trade&message.id=127809



Grand Total is 104487 if you bought the servers better resources out of spawn PER SET OF BUFF PACKS

Now you say 'harvest yourself!" problem with that is, this is fair market value, why would i sell something for 50k or less if when i sold the individual ingrediants id make 105k? Does that make sense? Call me crazy but id want a lil more then fair market value because of my time invested.




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The_Strider_Family
Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:12 am
#32

The original poster has a HORRIBLE argument.


He says it takes 3K-5K worth of resources to make a buff. By my calculations (Avian goes for 100cpu on Naritus) the Avian alone for a set of buff packs is about 11K in cost right there. Then you need to factor in your Herbivore Meat, Dolovite, Class 4, etc.... and you easily can be up over 20K for the resources alone.


If you want a math lesson why don't we see how much you can make with a Buff Set that you bought for 150K. A good price for buffs is 15K (scream all you want but people pay it) and you can generally buff between 26 and 32 people per set of buffs. At 15K per buff you can pull in 390K - 480K by using the Buff Set you just paid 150K for.


So let me get this straight... You are bitching about being able to make over 200K pure profit for just having to sit on your arse and buff people while a REAL doctor runs out and does that leg work to get resources and build the buff packs you use? GROW UP. Make them yourself or pay what people want to charge for the work and time they put in to gather and craft good buff packs. You are making a profit in the end so what is the problem?



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ZeroK0ol
Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:20 am
#33






The_Strider_Family wrote:

The original poster has a HORRIBLE argument.


He says it takes 3K-5K worth of resources to make a buff. By my calculations (Avian goes for 100cpu on Naritus) the Avian alone for a set of buff packs is about 11K in cost right there. Then you need to factor in your Herbivore Meat, Dolovite, Class 4, etc.... and you easily can be up over 20K for the resources alone.


If you want a math lesson why don't we see how much you can make with a Buff Set that you bought for 150K. A good price for buffs is 15K (scream all you want but people pay it) and you can generally buff between 26 and 32 people per set of buffs. At 15K per buff you can pull in 390K - 480K by using the Buff Set you just paid 150K for.


So let me get this straight... You are bitching about being able to make over 200K pure profit for just having to sit on your arse and buff people while a REAL doctor runs out and does that leg work to get resources and build the buff packs you use? GROW UP. Make them yourself or pay what people want to charge for the work and time they put in to gather and craft good buff packs. You are making a profit in the end so what is the problem?





WHOA, slow down there big guy. Ur funny dude. ur calling buff bots not real docs? No, im not a buff bot, No, i dont mass produce buffs for sale. Last time i checked 'Master Doctor' tag meant you did the work to be called a Real Doctor.



Dont go about insulting one type of Doctor over another, you had me agreeing with you right up until you started insulting one type of Dr over another.



Look at it this way, the crafting Dr (Jirob, Sippura on bria) would be considered the Pharmacist and Drug Specialists.


The front line Dr, giving out the medications would be the PPO, Both are types of Dr's, dont knock one over the other. As for profit. the profit margins are about equal when a crafting Dr sells at 120-150k per buff set and the buffing dr sells at 10-15k per buff. Everything is aobut right right now, except the cost of avian. But everything will change with the combat balance neways.



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The_Strider_Family
Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:40 am
#34

Sorry... that was a little harsh.


I am crabby and hungover this moring but am extremely tired of the people complaining about prices for something they aren't willing to do themselves. Probably a little meaner than I needed to be but that will soon pass with this horrible headache I am hoping.



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captenjonny
Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:47 am
#35

JEEZUMS!

This forum is the place I regularly read stories of how hacked off doctors are about accusations of price gouging and now this? Get real. You don't want to pay for buff packs then like a previous poster said - make 'em yourself. If you are a master doc you have the capability, but if you are like me the then the conveince of buying buff packs makes more sence. If you're not a master doc then TOUGH COOKIES!!! When the day comes that I think the buffs are too expensive I'll be making my own - that what a MARKET BASED economy does.

As an aside, I always get a chuckle about how "HARD" anyone works and the "TIME" they put in. You would think they ACTUALLY invested eight years of college and $100,000 of real money instead of a $40 game and maybe eight WEEKS of spare time. Turn off the computer. Go outside!



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Arrya
Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:54 am
#36






SolzDevius wrote:



here's a real quick and easy solution to your problem:


make your own packs







Exactly - problem solved and you get to keep all the profits for yourself. The doc/buff argument is even sillier than most price arguments (and very crafting profession goes through these things)because the customers have the same ability to craft the products as the sellers!





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revisoHT
Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:19 pm
#37






Raistlin27 wrote:

I know many of you who make buffs sell them to those who stand outside the coronet star port all day, and make gobs of cash. they then turn around and pay you a large sum for a new set of buffs, and the cycle goes on, with both parties making a large sum o dough. this is all fine and good, unless....


this process causes the price of a set of buffs to go up to around 150k (the current norm)


this is lame for these reasons

1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)

2. the cost staying so high drives the cost of a commercial buff up to 10 -15k, wich takes money out of everyones pocket, including everyone who would buy all your other products and services

3. It makes even being a doc to buff yourself worth very little, as you will only save about 40k when buying buff packs over just paying to be buffed (not at all worth the days spents grinding my ass off)



all these things are true. no doubts about it. flame, and you flame that wich is merely questoning the wong. but, have fun flaming the **edit** out of my post anyways losers....




so why are you crying again? maybe if you used the time you spetn on the this post for you '1/2 hour of time' to craft your own damn packs you wouldn't be such a poor beggar.

Flame away. I make my own blankets, but apparently you can't afford them...



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weshutch
Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:13 am
#38






Raistlin27 wrote:


1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)






Translation: Never made a buffpack or even tried


1/2 hour to make a set of buffs...lets compare notes:


Laying down harvesters on several different plantets to gather all the different component resources. -- Months


Hiring rangers to gather up meat for you and keeping them happy -- Weeks


Setting up factories, powering and paying maintenance, running the schematics and finallyproduction --1 or 2 days


And I'm not going to even bother explaining how buff sets cost a HELL of a lot more than 3-5k...there are already a dozen threads detailing this, none of which you have read.


Conclusion: Yet another n00b who came on the doctor boards to cry because he cant make millions for doing nothing.


There are many relevent factors that go into buff pricing and if the profit margin was anywhere NEAR 700k, you would be doing it right now in-game instead of bitching about it here.


Final note-- one of the relevent factors that go into pricing: having to deal with annoying players like you (Registered 9/8/04 -- at least have the guts to show yourself and not hide behind an alt.)





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weshutch
Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:31 am
#39

LOL just reading through this guys other posts on the lowca forums and now I'm feeling bad I even responded.


Some funny stuff there if you guys are board. Really like the one one the lowca boards with him being pissy because Meduse 90 packs are "lower quality" than master doc buffs.


Should have known...



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