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Thread: greedy docs....
Ocain
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:19 pm
#27
i would be willing to pay 20k....
that should be teh base price IMO
i could make an easy 250k in an hour buffing when i was a doc (havla is ur friend, yes 10k priced buffs)
this guy was just sitting there buffing, said that 50k is the price he charges for buffing and u can pay it or leave
he was the only person there so i had to pay it or not play hence greed
that should be teh base price IMO
i could make an easy 250k in an hour buffing when i was a doc (havla is ur friend, yes 10k priced buffs)
this guy was just sitting there buffing, said that 50k is the price he charges for buffing and u can pay it or leave
he was the only person there so i had to pay it or not play hence greed
jrwasson23
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:42 pm
#28
Ocain wrote:
i would be willing to pay 20k....
that should be teh base price IMO
i could make an easy 250k in an hour buffing when i was a doc (havla is ur friend, yes 10k priced buffs)
this guy was just sitting there buffing, said that 50k is the price he charges for buffing and u can pay it or leave
he was the only person there so i had to pay it or not play hence greed
Pfft,
You can pay it or play without. If you assume you MUST have a buff to play the game you need to work on how you define play. I am all for Doc's charging whatever the hell they feel their time is worth. It should not matter what the person can make, or even how much it costs the doc for the buff. My time is worth 10k. His is worth 50k. Some Doc's time is worth 6k. Find out which doc thinks less of their time and get that doc to buff you. Any time someone complains about my buff prices the price immediatly doubles. And again for each complaint. And again...etc. My time is not to sit around and buff people. It is meant to do alot of other things, hunting, roleplay, whatever. If a doc is charging more than you want to pay, find another doc or play without a buff. Whining will never actually solve anything.
Coqo
tkdnick
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:14 pm
#29
Buffs are worth what the customer will pay. It is all about supply and demand. I used to log in at server start and there was a doctor buffing every morning at the same time. Well worth a premium price. The doctor charges 10k a set but I always tip more because of the great service she did for the community by coming in every morning.
Bottom line, if you are not willing to pay, do not get in line. Buffing is boring. Thank the doctors for the pricing information and move along if you do not think the price is right for you.
Goden
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:16 pm
#30
i would be willing to pay 20k....
that should be teh base price IMO
i could make an easy 250k in an hour buffing when i was a doc (havla is ur friend, yes 10k priced buffs)
this guy was just sitting there buffing, said that 50k is the price he charges for buffing and u can pay it or leave
he was the only person there so i had to pay it or not play hence greed
that should be teh base price IMO
i could make an easy 250k in an hour buffing when i was a doc (havla is ur friend, yes 10k priced buffs)
this guy was just sitting there buffing, said that 50k is the price he charges for buffing and u can pay it or leave
he was the only person there so i had to pay it or not play hence greed
If his price bothered you so much why not hop a shuttle elsewhere ?
Seriously, take a LOOOONG hard look at yourself. Why do you think you have the right to dictate how
someone else is going to play this game ? You have a choice to either pay what the Doc charges you
or leave / wait until someone comes along to charge less. And by the way what you made as a doc
back in the day, if you charged 20k you would have made 500k in an hour. Almost close to what you
make as a Janta Hunter...
As a Doc on 2 servers (Eclipse/Farstar) i would never even consider buffing ANYONE for less
than 15k. Nothing you say or do can convince me to lower that price. My highest paying customer
payed 100k for a +3hr +2500 buff, he payed 100k even though i advertised Buffs for 20k. His simple
comment was "Anyone buffing the rabble in coronet deserves 100k per buff".
So in short.. dont come onto the board whining about greed when you just proved that by not wanting
to pay 50k for a buff you are infact the gready one here. On a 3.22hr buffyou can make 50k x 20 hunting
high missions, even whispering a whine is in my Doctor eyes pure greed!
/Goden
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tevans6220
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:22 pm
#31
I just recently became a Master Doctor and I plan on buffing for free. I became a Doctor to help people. Not to make a whole lot of money. I make my money doing other things. I just don't understand the problem here. If resource prices are too high then don't buy them. Prices will come down. Even docs who buy at high prices can't be online and buff forever. So there will be a time when not many docs are buffing. Boycott by not buying expensive resources.
I've also read where some docs justify higher prices because of the earning potential of their buff. I don't understand this either. So what if somebody can make $500k with a buff? That's does'nt justify price gouging. It's none of our business what they do with our buffs. If somebody can make $500k on one of my buffs, more power to them. Should the weaponsmith charge higher prices because of the earning potential of his weapons? Ford does'nt charge me extra for my car because of it's earning potential. Set a fair price and stick to it. If resource prices are too high stop buffing until they come down to a reasonable level. People depend too much on buffs which means that docs hold all the cards. High priced resources equal no buffs. It can't be any simpler than that.
Etack
Master Doctor, Ahazi
Sondlen
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:22 pm
#32
I remember seeing OneShotOneKill, plus a lot of comotion around the starport. I don't know if I buffed you or not (I'm Aikeda btw.) But I was on my way through and when people offer me 50k to buff I will, and when a line forms I will dismiss it even though everyone will get all pissy fit over it and whine that I should SIT there and buff them for 10k PERIOD! a lot of people didn't have a problem paying so I decided to turn a profit.
Ecys
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:26 pm
#33
Some people are getting out of hand i have been doc for few weeks now and i charge 12k but dont get me wrong this is not about not liking prices. If you dont like a docs price go to another doc if there is not one fly somewhere else. There are plenty of people will pay a doc 20, 30 ,40k to get buff because your there and there is no line. People dont like to wait they will pay not to. just my .02
ECYS
Master Doc
Bria
VreS
fool7171
Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:14 pm
#34
IN MY OPINION
no docs should ever charge over 10k for buffs...
i think that's just greed...
i realize buffs are expensive... and so is bivoli... but trust me... you dont need to charge over 10k
i buy my buffpacks... i buy my bivoli... with all that going... each person i buff costs me about 4.6k...
and i hit for 2601... these are NICE buffs...
docs, dont get ridiculous...
who remembers when buffs used to be decent prices?
i sure do, and thats why i buff for 2601 and charge 6.5k... i think thats the only fair thing to do
-iwece mika
master doctor
jrwasson23
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:18 pm
#35
fool7171 wrote:IN MY OPINIONno docs should ever charge over 10k for buffs...i think that's just greed...i realize buffs are expensive... and so is bivoli... but trust me... you dont need to charge over 10ki buy my buffpacks... i buy my bivoli... with all that going... each person i buff costs me about 4.6k...and i hit for 2601... these are NICE buffs...docs, dont get ridiculous...who remembers when buffs used to be decent prices?i sure do, and thats why i buff for 2601 and charge 6.5k... i think thats the only fair thing to do-iwece mikamaster doctor
Charge what you want. Refer to my previous post. I don't care what it costs me. I don't care what earning potential the player has. I care what my time is worth to me. If I feel my time is worth 50k or 100k or even 500k to buff someone then that is what I would charge. I did not learn the doctor skills to placate players. I heal freely. I feel as a doctor healing IS my duty. Buffs? Of course not. Getting a buff is not a necessity. If someone has 499 wounds of a total 500 Health, then getting healed is a necessity. Is it greed to charge more than 10k? Of course it is not. Is it unbelievably pretentious for others to dictate what I can charge? You bet it is.
Charge what you think your time is worth. That's all I have to say on the matter
Coqo
Arcurium
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:36 am
#37
100 credits per unit for avian and herbivore meat? Insane prices for class IV liquid petro? I will admit that 50k for buffs is obscene. Anyone who charges that much is a criminal. But no less so than the crazy prices being asked for meat resources.
,Veusheesras Teacas
LadyMalice
Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:47 am
#38
I agree 100% it should all depend on what you think your time is worth...couldnt have been stated any better than that!
My alt isa master Doc, he was made for keeping me, my husband, and guildies buffed. I sell meds on my vendors and I'll usually buff whenever i get a tell askin for it. I will go sit down in theed or coronet and buff the public for a little while here and there and never charge more than 10k for a bivoli buff...8k without bivoli. I do this for the conversations and to meet new people, at these times I am there because I want to be, for the players,and 8-10k iswell worth my time.
But when you are trying to do harv runs, are raiding with your guild, or even just hopping from planet to planet to survey and the tells start to pour in, during MY time the price will and does go up. If i amat the Geo Cave on yavin to backup my holo grinding husband incase hegoes down while grinding, 5k away from the nearest shuttle and someone wants me to go all the way outside to buff them, you better believe I am gonna charge 20-25k. After all, I am again on MY time and the player wants to avoid theup to1 hourtrip to coronet to get rebuffed (shuttle wait times, line wait time, and the 10k roundtrip speeder ride), then my time is valuable, both to me because i'm actually doing something, and to my husband cuz i'm there to save his ass, and to the customer who doesnt want to make the trip....I have never had a complaint. It all boils down to what the time is worth. There are many many different situations, and it is perfectly reasonable to charge according to situation becausethis serviceshould be worth it to all parties involved.
There is nothing greedy about it IMO. After all...buffs are a priveledge to players, unlike healing. Docs were not created TO BUFF people, they were created to heal people, and that is something i never charge for, as it should be.
ArcOFett
Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:17 am
#39
Hi ,Arch O'fett here
Again iam amazed at how little people know, do any of u ever di any research, how about u whiners crying about paying to much for buffs, do u inquire on why hes or she is buffing for that much,did y aget a rude response, i guess so, be like driving into a gas station start yelling at the gas attendant and then spit onhim and then start to flame him wherever he goes,, been there and had it done to me, wasnt nice but it didnt discourageme from doing what i luv thats buffin for 15k, now i have allways stated i would never chargemorethen 15k for a buff and to this day i never have, surei once or twiced joked about charging 100k when aperson pissedme off,id start upping the buff prices by 5k till someone takes them out cuss there pissed of they pissed off the doc. works quite well every see a 10 ldeep line go poof yell charging 100k now for abuff. lol i have afew times... sometimesthe public has to know iam not screwinga round with them. Iam verys erious whenit comes tomy profession and i dont go into buddys house and start jumping on him abouthis ridicules vendor prices .
As a recipiant of being treated cruely and rudely iam going to lay down a guide for all u jack'azzez who think u know what your saying,just becauseu where a former doc once b4 only tell sme you couldnt hack it,or u just went on grinding so u never really made it a real proffession, heres hint for u former docs
1. Todays prices arenot yestrdays prices, so while it may have been cheap for u to be a doc back then,thats not todays reality.
2. heres a break down for the ex docs and whiners,so u may have a clue .
this is just to be abuffer this is not crafting
.1 set of complete quality buffs,, 25k-50k per stat,,, that is the going price today,,as of july 31st 04 300k for one complete set
2. 1 crate of bivoli +25 175-200k 25 uses of 3
3.1 crate of havla(speede buffers food) 150k-200k
that alone is over 650 k ,ok so u cant do math lemmebreak thenumbers down for ya
22 x your price = profit
700k / your profit
now if i charge 15k, for a buff, wich i do, and i do 8k for people i like ior know,or have been a really good customer or citzen of mine .to cover themedical cost of buffin
this aint no bullcrap, this is pure actual fact
my buff packmaker takes half of my buff right off the hop. so every buff i make 8k sound reasonable
now that i dont buff in coro anymore and made redcross mybuffs instead of hitting 2593 now hit for 2852 ,still at the same 15k price,, and not a single complaint have i rec ieved,,,
Crafter costs, to me i dont know
but when u pay 8k of avian meat and u get charged 2.75 million, some charging as hi as 350 cpu,, how come i dont ever see a forum about u people bitchin about people sellin clothing attacments +1 for a million,your bloody scavnegers ffs. if anything itsthe vendors killin us,the price gougers, when people finally stop and say no iam not gonna pay 350 cpu for that meat .then wemight see some change in doc prices, docs usually price there profit on what they sell, every1 needs to make money..we are allways at the mercy of the buffmakers/scouts who harvest our resources,so please TAKE IT UP With THEM, not the buffers.
there isnt a single soul out there that can argue with that ,if u do, get buffed go do some missions and quit your bloody crying about havein to pay a minimal fee for a buff,..