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Thread: a predicition for future docs

pircio
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:06 am
#27


"why would any of these go to BE and not drop straight down to Medic"


medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them? to have others craft for you makes sense, but to make something for oneself that you can't use is assonine. medic crafts for medic... makes sense. BE crafts for doctor... makes sense. medic crafting for doctor... makes no sense.


but if they put those cures in the mediclevel instead of doc, reducing what level you need to be to use them, then there's no reason to be a doctor.




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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:08 am
#28

I highly doubt that components will be affected as much as the "End Product". I mean go for it if you wanna bulk up. But come May 5th, or any where in between when we get more Info, if I see a post from you complaining I'm gonna beat you in the head with the Anti-Nerf "I told you so"Bat.


So just be aware that things are and will change, and when you bulk up for no other reason the "beacause I can".....knowing that things will change your going to run serious risk in have 4000 stims that no one will buy.




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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:14 am
#29






pircio wrote:


"why would any of these go to BE and not drop straight down to Medic"


medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them? to have others craft for you makes sense, but to make something for oneself that you can't use is assonine. medic crafts for medic... makes sense. BE crafts for doctor... makes sense. medic crafting for doctor... makes no sense.


but if they put those cures in the mediclevel instead of doc, reducing what level you need to be to use them, then there's no reason to be a doctor.








Because you *should* need Medic to have Doctor....Why not let Medics craft for docs?


This discussion is really kinda pointless until we get the Profession Information. I mean we can say do and don't, and what if, and well thats not right....all day long, but we still accomplish nothing but adding to the frustration of ourselves and others that read it.


We have no clue how the skills will be changing, and really that should be enough at this time.





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Darksfallen
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:16 am
#30






pircio wrote:


"why would any of these go to BE and not drop straight down to Medic"


medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them? to have others craft for you makes sense, but to make something for oneself that you can't use is assonine. medic crafts for medic... makes sense. BE crafts for doctor... makes sense. medic crafting for doctor... makes no sense.


but if they put those cures in the mediclevel instead of doc, reducing what level you need to be to use them, then there's no reason to be a doctor.





You contradicted yourself here a few times...


"medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them?"


But yet...


"BE crafts for doctor... makes sense"


But BEscan't usethem.... I'm confused totally by your post...


What's the difference? Making something yourself but can't use it is assonine, but BE making Doc stuff and they don't have Doc is okay? Doctor has always been a continuation of Medic, it's the only thing that does make sense...

Message Edited by Darksfallen on 03-23-2005 12:17 PM



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pircio
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:26 am
#31






Darksfallen wrote:






pircio wrote:


"why would any of these go to BE and not drop straight down to Medic"


medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them? to have others craft for you makes sense, but to make something for oneself that you can't use is assonine. medic crafts for medic... makes sense. BE crafts for doctor... makes sense. medic crafting for doctor... makes no sense.


but if they put those cures in the mediclevel instead of doc, reducing what level you need to be to use them, then there's no reason to be a doctor.





You contradicted yourself here a few times...


"medics cant use those, so why would they be able to craft them?"


But yet...


"BE crafts for doctor... makes sense"


But BEscan't usethem.... I'm confused totally by your post...


What's the difference? Making something yourself but can't use it is assonine, but BE making Doc stuff and they don't have Doc is okay? Doctor has always been a continuation of Medic, it's the only thing that does make sense...


Message Edited by Darksfallen on 03-23-2005 12:17 PM




no its not contradiction


medic is both the predecessor to BE and doctor. so any skills (as far as crafting goes) are inherited by both. beyond that changes


BE is the medic that crafts


Doctor is the medic that uses.


i know real life isn't a good example or explanantion but its like this. undergrads are medics, and BE or doctor is the masters degree. you need the first before you geteither of the2nd, but they're seperate because they're both elite skills. you can learn both, but you have to go to grad school twice



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Darksfallen
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:27 am
#32






pircio wrote:

you are completely entitled to do so, but as it is i already have all sorts of components just sitting there. at least 4000 ABECs just chilling, waiting to be used, so before they're screwed, i need to make something with them, as i'm sure others are, so that's what i'm doing, and that seems like a good idea, and just suggesting it to others.





The only issue I have with this is that it "seems" like a good idea. I would have to give advice knowing nothing like we all do, and have it screw people over.


That'sirresponsible to do in my opinion and you might think twice about it. I know I would feel like crap if I suggested something and it messed things up for people.





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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:29 am
#33






pircio wrote:


no its not contradiction


medic is both the predecessor to BE and doctor. so any skills (as far as crafting goes) are inherited by both. beyond that changes


BE is the medic that crafts


Doctor is the medic that uses.


i know real life isn't a good example or explanantion but its like this. undergrads are medics, and BE or doctor is the masters degree. you need the first before you geteither of the2nd, but they're seperate because they're both elite skills. you can learn both, but you have to go to grad school twice




Actually BE only requires Organic Chemistry from the Medic Tree....While Doctor currently (and hopefully will remain) needs Master Medic, so yes it makes no sense to have BE's craft Doctor items.





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pircio
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:33 am
#34


they are BIO ................ pause for emphasis.......... engineers.


BIOLOGICAL ............................ pause again......... engineers.


i'd explain that more, but it explains itself... it makes every bit of sense for a BE to make doctor products.



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Darksfallen
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:33 am
#35






pircio wrote:

no its not contradiction


medic is both the predecessor to BE and doctor. so any skills (as far as crafting goes) are inherited by both. beyond that changes


BE is the medic that crafts


Doctor is the medic that uses.


i know real life isn't a good example or explanantion but its like this. undergrads are medics, and BE or doctor is the masters degree. you need the first before you geteither of the2nd, but they're seperate because they're both elite skills. you can learn both, but you have to go to grad school twice



There is nothing in game to suggest what you say is true. Doctors craft, BE craft. Doctors primarily craft Medicines BEs create life. So are you saying if a scout went to grad school he can be a BE because what? He's a crafter?


BE and Docs have nothing to do with each otherother than sharing a preq. BE was mentioned because I'm sure (completely unfounded) that like the PetStims BEs will make the SelfStims. This would be in character and aligning in the past with what has happened. Doc will smush into Medic like Starship Engineer smushed into Shipwright. There is no basis for Doc meds to go into BE.


Though of course I have nothing to base this on but past trends.





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pircio
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:36 am
#36






Darksfallen wrote:






pircio wrote:

you are completely entitled to do so, but as it is i already have all sorts of components just sitting there. at least 4000 ABECs just chilling, waiting to be used, so before they're screwed, i need to make something with them, as i'm sure others are, so that's what i'm doing, and that seems like a good idea, and just suggesting it to others.





The only issue I have with this is that it "seems" like a good idea. I would have to give advice knowing nothing like we all do, and have it screw people over.


That'sirresponsible to do in my opinion and you might think twice about it. I know I would feel like crap if I suggested something and it messed things up for people.









this has gotto be the best one yet........... it was a suggestion, if i knew that hundreds or thousands of people were hanging on my every word waiting for my decision then, well, i probably wouldn't be playing swg. it's a suggestion, and trust me, if it doesn't work out, i won't lose any sleep at night.





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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:37 am
#37






pircio wrote:


they are BIO ................ pause for emphasis.......... engineers.


BIOLOGICAL ............................ pause again......... engineers.


i'd explain that more, but it explains itself... it makes every bit of sense for a BE to make doctor products.






That makes sense in RL....but not in this game. If BE's were something other then Pet makers, it would make sense. But currently that is what they are known for. Pet Stims anyone can use....and Pets themselves.




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Darksfallen
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:38 am
#38






pircio wrote:



this has gotto be the best one yet........... it was a suggestion, if i knew that hundreds or thousands of people were hanging on my every word waiting for my decision then, well, i probably wouldn't be playing swg. it's a suggestion, and trust me, if it doesn't work out, i won't lose any sleep at night.





I know it was a suggestion I never made it out to be more. A suggestion knowing nothing about a subject based on assumtpions and what... umm nothing?


So you are suggesting for people to do this and admit that if it screwed people over you wouldn't care?

Message Edited by Darksfallen on 03-23-2005 12:39 PM



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Darksfallen
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:40 am
#39






MyT_Chicken wrote:

Pet Stims anyone can use....and Pets themselves.



Pets can use stims on themselves?





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