Doctor Archive

Looking at most of the conversions a lot of the non combat caps could do with getting set a lot higher at profession master level at least.

Only problemwith having a higher cap is that you could drop one line and retrain the whole line (or 2 lines even) if this cap was increased at the tier 4 level.

But if it was at the profession master and you dropped this the cap should reset to the current value.

Just for fun was working out how many trips would take to just fill up the 4 FS tier boxes (not included novice)

Combat profession

Total FS XP required 1,225,000

Weapons XP 900K = 30K FS XP (30 : 1)

Combat XP 90K = 30K FS XP (3 : 1) (just converting at same time as weapon XPrather than when it is capped)

Means you would have to do approx 21 Trips to convert all the XP you need to fill up the one branch.

Doctor

Total FS XP required 1,225,000

Medical XP 80K = 8K FS XP (10 : 1)

Get No secondary XP for this type of xp

This makes it you need to do approx 154 Trips to convert the XP you need to fill up the one branch.

To me this seems like an excessive difference, I know as others have posted you can sit and buff people/pets in the village,

But to me that seems to be a total waste of time, when those packs could be put to better use helping other people.

I don't think it is just medic XP that has this, seems any non weapon/combat XP cap causes the same situation for crafters as well.

I dont think theres anything wrong with this system, it makes it hard to get jedi/rewards of the tree. The question is, do you think its worth it?

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It would be nice if Agent001 (the doc correspondant) would give his opinion on this too.

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weeeeeeeeelllll....

team up with another doc. one doc pulls a pet and you buff it, store it repeat.

maybe you can both get xp if you buff the same person at the same time. not sure why but some docs were doing this.

Asking the devs to raise the cap on xp is just like asking them for a 35:1 ratio. do you think they are going to take what has to be the easiest FS xp and make it easier?? Personally seeing how things work at SoE - I'm expecting them to nerf doctors this week.

Doctors can get xpabout as fast asarchitects. Architects get 35:1 because they can make statue heads. A doc uses less resources on buff packs than an architect will use on 20 statue heads.

if you don't have an alt - try asking someone if they would die to help you grind out fs xp. never know what people will say.

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Would you care to test out a 400 year old sword to see if it's decayed to condition 0? All the prior testers have no comment. Perhaps a gun which was used in WW I and still fires with high accuracy upto 1km?

If that doesn't get you, then start reading current military specifications for combat equipment.

OMG this is worse than the last grind!

We can argue for a long time which profession makes the fastest/easiest xp. I personally have no doubt that FS combat xp is the easiest to obtain. Combat professions just have to do what they normally do: take missions and kill stuff. That gives them both xp and credits.

One of the goals with this Jedi revamp was to make people gain xp playing their profession like they normally would. This has been fulfilled for combat professions. But this can in no way be fulfilled for doctors. Normal play for a doctor would be to sit around in Coronet or some other place and buff people. With the current cap onlythe first 10 buffsof such a buff session will contribute to the docs path towards FS skills - and only with 8k force xp. This is the biggest problem.

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Im not sure this line is worth it any ways theirs no + to wound healing only inj. Why no + to wound healing?

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I stated in another post just recently. Those doctors looking to heal/buff all to convert your 80k xp into the miserable 8k fs xp and rinse/repeat a billion times..DONT BOTHER!!

I trained up the whole FS Healing line for free. It does absolutely nothing for wound healing or speed. Nor does it do anything for buffs. It will not make them better at all. Healing is the only tree in the Senses section for doctors. I would seriously consider picking up a combat profession ASAP and start blasting away. It's the only way to knock out the xp quickly to convert for the Combat/Reflex branches.

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I'm too lazy to procrastinate today...I'll do it tomorrow.

about getting xp...

well, this used to work,individually buffing your own statsor say, one of your mounts to buff up. buffing up each stat individually, using the 'healenhance' wont let you override the current buff unless it was higher then the buff the player has i think... so you single buff each stat manually using single commands for each stat. ie: /healenhance strength ...if this doesn't work oh well, if you dont get xp by buffing your own pets..ah well..

but wouldn't this give you xp over and over?... i haven't played doc for a while so someone refresh me if im mistaken. and if im right, all you need is just alot of buff packs to buff your pet or yourself, if you get xp for buffing yourself that is....over and over.........

Med exp is so easy.... stop complaining. I and several other medics do the pet trick for each other next to paemos, and i have a heal macro going... in 2 or so days ive gotten 3 boxes of persuasion and will get the 4th today, and ive done it while watching tv or reading,, really combat profs have it much worse, they hafta hardcore grind mobs then travel all over the place.

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greyyn wrote:

about getting xp...

well, this used to work,individually buffing your own statsor say, one of your mounts to buff up. buffing up each stat individually, using the 'healenhance' wont let you override the current buff unless it was higher then the buff the player has i think... so you single buff each stat manually using single commands for each stat. ie: /healenhance strength ...if this doesn't work oh well, if you dont get xp by buffing your own pets..ah well..

but wouldn't this give you xp over and over?... i haven't played doc for a while so someone refresh me if im mistaken. and if im right, all you need is just alot of buff packs to buff your pet or yourself, if you get xp for buffing yourself that is....over and over.........

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Greyyn, someone has pointed out that though you don't get xp for buffing a pet multiple times. If you store the pet between buffs it loses them and thus you can rebuff for xp. There are some difficulties with this for a simple doc. First, you can't call a droid and a pet at the same time unless you are a creature handler. You would need a friend with a pet or a ranger/scout to set up a campsite.

The biggest pain for us docs is that you can cap your xp in less than a half hour and will have to make more than 150 trips to see Paemos. This will likely take longer than getting the xp itself. If the cap were raised by 3-4x then the number of trips would be comparable to combat professions, but raising the cap would make it easier than intended to relearn doc if boxes are dropped.

Theseare just side issues, but seem to be getting the most attention since people can easily imagine how they could be fixed. A bigger issueis the Enhanced Senses skills themselves. If you plan to be just a force sensitive doctor then there will be little or no advantage to having any of these force sensitive trees for the skills. If you plan to be a jedi then these skills are also oflittle use and may actually cause you some pain if they are keeping you from having the melee force sensitive skills thata jedi will need to survive. The only fix for this would be to make all converted force sensitive skill the same so that it could fill any skill boxes. At this point such a change would be unlikely.

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status: retired

Would you care to test out a 400 year old sword to see if it's decayed to condition 0? All the prior testers have no comment. Perhaps a gun which was used in WW I and still fires with high accuracy upto 1km?

If that doesn't get you, then start reading current military specifications for combat equipment.