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Thread: Before you do anything, go Buff the tumblers in the med center...
homebreu wrote:You do know thatyou do not have to do this on the first floor of the PUBLIC med center, right?
You do know what PUBLIC means, right? If you don't want people tumbling in your private med center, I would say 'more power to you,' but come on, who are you, really, to tell people how to use - and even if they CAN use - the PUBLIC med center?
No one, as far as I know, elected you to any sort of board/panel/position to dictate how other players should use the PUBLIC med center. You are not the boss of them.
There is so much hate and spite going on everywhere you look, why as a Doctor would you feel it necessary to cause more?
I became a Doctor so I could be self-sufficient. I like to kill, I like to talk, and I like to explore. Because of time constraints, I usually do not join groups. So I became a Doctor so I can heal/buff myself and my few friends in game.
Why is it that people feel becoming Master Doctor has to be some sort of "Mystical Journey" in order to reap some sort of benefit? If you do not like healing a tumbler for xp, don't do it...it's as simple as that. I did heal a tumbler for xp while becoming a Master, does that automatically mean I am less of a doctor and deserve any less respect for fulfilling an xp requirement than you do? I've played so many RPG games throughout history that it's not funny. Building the class of your character is only one VERY small step in building your character. I did the grind, now I have a character I enjoy playing and playing the way *I* want to.
So for crying out loud, don't be spiteful, don't be hateful. If you see someone tumbling, ignore them if you wish. But there is absolutely NO reason to cause someone else grief and buff the tumblers... If anything, throw the tumblers an action buff. Then more people can share one tumbler and you made someone smile rather than being a pathetic griefer...
Cyckl
Master Doctor/Aspiring Master TKA
Intrepid
I've got a master doc on Intrepid and a BH on Kettemoor. With my Kettemoor toon I've spent the last week and a half gathering resources to make crates of wound paks because 90% of the time I walk into the med center ready to tip healers I get ignored by the medics grinding on the tumblers and I'm tired of it. It's sad. A non doc is going through the trouble to make his own wound paks and bugging master docs to make schematics for him because he's tired of being ignored by the "medics" healing thetumblers.
Why in the world areyou a doc and a medic if you don't actually HEAL other people?
I'll walk into the med center with my BH toon and sit down and see at least 5-6 medics and they all ignore me.
Oh wait I'm forcing my views of how to play the game on other people so I'm wrong. Silly me for actually suggesting that a doc actually earn their XP by legitimate means and actually heal wounded people in the med centers and not some /afk tumbler.
Yeah that's heresy I know.
Heal the tumblers all you want, the only thing that gets me is when people who need their wounds healed get ignored.
Doc by it's nature is a service oriented profession. If the devs intended for a master doc to focus only on themselves they would not give us the powerful meds that we have. Who in the world uses a wound pak E on themselves? It's obvious (to me at least) that that is intended to be used on a pet or something. Who in the world needs a stim pak E for themselves? Heck why in the world do the devs allow us to buff other players in the first place. Since we don't give a rip about healing them why in the world should we care about buffing them?
Oops there I go again forcing my views on how the game should be played on others.
Yeah I know that all non medics are jerks and deserve to be ignored by us and the all players should becomemaster docs to heal themselves because every non medic in this game is arude and deserves to be treated like total crap by us. If they want their wounds healed let them grind up to master doc just like we did.
Hey if the devs nerf tumbling will you accuse them of "forcing their views on you" as well?
Message Edited by atimes on 04-19-2004 10:36 AM
"Hey if the devs nerf tumbling will you accuse them of "forcing their views on you" as well?"
good call 
It has already been pointed out that tumbling is an exploit deemed undesirable by the devs but difficult to remove, I admit I did some tumble healing myself, i think most Docs have, but I did it in the confines of my house. To me Roleplaying is important, saying you are 'atumble monkey' on spatial ISNT Rolplaying Star Wars, there is no place for you in public, go to your private houses and do it please. And yes If i see them in public doing it I buff them too they are an annoyance with their spam.
I asked one tumbler what are you doing?
A: Im tumbling
Me : You're tumbling?
A: yeah for XP
Me: XP ? you mean you are learning a skill?
A: Nah im grinding damage for a doc.
Me : Oh, right seems like you need a Doctor to help you, youlook sick...
/enhance quickness
/enhance strength
Me : There you go you're healed now good day to you Sir .
A :^&^&^&^*&
Me : May the force be with You my friend!
This post is about buffing tumblers in the med center so medics would actually pay attention to the wounded. Now that those tumblers you mentioned took their act somewhere else you would still go out there to grief them? That is just lame. Some players become docs to actually help others while others just want to be docsso they can solo stuff. And some are just trying to grind to get their Jedi.
nerf_you wrote:
I don't mind so much about the tumblers in the med center. It's the tumblers doing it right in front of the coronet starport (spamming the hell out of your combat log) that drive me nuts. In the last week or two on Shadowfire they have moved to the starport. Last night I gave them all some nice 3.5hr quickness/strength buffs, and I will continue to do so until they take theirspam elsewhere. Maybe I will even make some special buff packs for these guys.
Voltrox (shadowfire)
atimes wrote:I'll walk into the med center with my BH toon and sit down and see at least 5-6 medics and they all ignore me.
Do you ask for healing? Or just sit there, fuming, waiting for someone to read your mind?
And, in answer to your other questions, though I suspect they are rhetorical, no. It is not 'forcing your views on other people' to have an opinion about WHAT a doctor should do with his or her time, or whatever the devs decide to add in, modify or take out of the game. Dumping a buff on someone who isn't playing in a manner you deem acceptable, however, clearly IS.
RehtaelFemme wrote:
atimes wrote:
I'll walk into the med center with my BH toon and sit down and see at least 5-6 medics and they all ignore me.
Do you ask for healing? Or just sit there, fuming, waiting for someone to read your mind?
And, in answer to your other questions, though I suspect they are rhetorical, no. It is not 'forcing your views on other people' to have an opinion about WHAT a doctor should do with his or her time, or whatever the devs decide to add in, modify or take out of the game. Dumping a buff on someone who isn't playing in a manner you deem acceptable, however, clearly IS.
Then healing someones wounds who doesn't ask, is as well. Funny, I don't get compliants when I do that...
Tumbling = needs to be taken out of the game; case closed.
DarthXanthic wrote:Tumbling = needs to be taken out of the game; case closed.
Don't confuse my point with advocating tumbling as a legitimate means to gaining experience. My point is simply that is not for some bully to rally everyone to his cause to effectively ruin the gameplay of others in the community areas of the map. That shows s/he has delusions of grandeur. I bet that person does 10-15 things that OTHER people would like to throttle him for, only they cannot or will not. It's called 'acceptance,' 'tolerance,' or 'getting over yourself,' so on and so forth, but acting that immature is in no way 'noble,' 'helpful,' 'proactive,' or 'mature.'
RehtaelFemme wrote:
DarthXanthic wrote:
Tumbling = needs to be taken out of the game; case closed.
Don't confuse my point with advocating tumbling as a legitimate means to gaining experience. My point is simply that is not for some bully to rally everyone to his cause to effectively ruin the gameplay of others in the community areas of the map. That shows s/he has delusions of grandeur. I bet that person does 10-15 things that OTHER people would like to throttle him for, only they cannot or will not. It's called 'acceptance,' 'tolerance,' or 'getting over yourself,' so on and so forth, but acting that immature is in no way 'noble,' 'helpful,' 'proactive,' or 'mature.'
(*sigh*). Yeah I'll ask for healing and I'll still get ignored. It's already been said that the devs are aware of tumbling and don't really like it. Anything that allows someone to breeze through a profession easily they usually adjust so hopefully it's a matter of time before tumbling gets looked at. It's a totally worthless skill anyway and no one uses it for anything (does anyone actually know areal use for tumbling)
Also since when does someone have to ask for healing? Why else would I come into the med center if I didn't want to be healed? If my BF is at zero and I'm not a doc and I have no wounds why would I go to the med center?
It's already been shown that it's not a desirable play style to the devs. Therefore advocating tumblers is like trying to "bully" me because I don't agree with it. Do I think we should go around ninja buffing tumblers, no I don't but I have come close.
Are we "bullying" people around when we tell them not to bank tip? They may nothave a problem withbank tips but we do.
All I care about is people with legit needs getting their needs met. Sounds kind of like what being a doctor is all about. . . there I go again forcing my views on how the game should be played.
Heal the tumblers all you want but when I come in after a BH mark that bled me and I've got 115 wounds to my stamina don't just flat out ignore me because you paid "good money to your tumbler"
Gee medics are paying tumblers. . . I thought we were the ones complaining about not getting paid and now we are paying others to get "sick"?
The sheer irony of it all is mind boggling. We complain about people with legit needs because they don't tip and treat us badly then we go out and tip /afk tumblers. So instead of healing folks who need it for our xp we ignore them because they may or may not pay but we then go and pay others to heal them by way of a xp method that is such a gray area that no one can agree on it's validity.
I doubt we would call wound healing and other non tumbling means of XP "exploits"
Message Edited by atimes on 04-19-2004 12:11 PM
Cailid010 wrote:
Anyone that buffs a tumbler, or anyone else without being asked for it, is griefing them. You can be banned from this game for griefing.
If you're going to buff them with the sole intention of stoppping others from getting healing exp off them then you should be banned for griefing. What gives you the right to dictate how they play the game? If you don't like it then /addignore, /denyservice, or whatever. But you don't have to grief others.
I've sat in med centers waiting for petients so I could get healing exp "the right way". 3-10 of us would be sitting there for up to 20 min waiting for one guy to show up with 50 wounds. Great exp there..... This might have been a good way to get exp when the game was released and the cities were crowded but it isn't now.
Get a med droid and head to the star ports. Heal em as they load. You'd be amazed at how many people run around with black HAM bars and don't come to med centers.