Doctor Archive
Thread: an idea on buff packs-- devs, plz read
Rogha,
First, you cant use a harvest droid without being a scout. Second, do you realy think the Dev's are going to add in a buff droid to be used by a non doc? Come on man. Your killing me.
Respect as nothing to do with how hard a prof is to grind. Good gravy is that how you judge people? Respect has to so with the person behind the toon.
GKeeper316 wrote:
and i dont need a chef to feed me to get the effects of food, why should i need the doc to administer the buff. just paying for it outta be enough.
Rogha Dainar, Esq.
Master Bounty Hunter
I don't need hostess to feed me a twinkie but I don't think I'd do my own heart transplant.
Your idea is selfish, ill-thought, and above all RETARDED.
As for your "master BH blah blah it takes weeks blah blah" statement, who cares?
YOU chose BH, you weren't forced.
If you want to buff yourself, drop BH and get Doc.
Until then, kindly **edit**.
Here is the one huge flaw in your plan:
If there was a buff bot and you didn't need doc to buff yourself, the % of Docs on server to make packs to sell you would drop down to hardly any.
Crafting buffs is one of the hardest things in this game, aside from armor, and perhaps food.
Quit trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Buff yourself = Be a Doctor.
If not, wait in line like everyone else.
my idea is not selfish, ill-thought or retarded. i put a lot of thought into what would be best for the docs and the player base. just sell the buff pack for the same amount of money that you charge to provide the service. that way a player can get a buff when necessary. not whenhe can find a doc. you still make your money. we still get our buffs. i dont understand why you cant wrap your brain around the idea.
1buff= 6 stats.
they dont have to be anything spectacular. maybe 1500 per.
crate of 10 full buffs= 60k (at 1500 per stat, i'd say this is reasonable)
this way when the combat guy is trying to make it through uber hard dungeon (corvette, DWM), and happens, by mischance or bad play, to get killed, he can get his buff back when he walks out of the cloning facility, not after hes booked passage off planet to a place he hopes will have a doc handy. it just makes sense. the doc that crafted and sold the buffs gets his money without having to sit around at a starport, and the player can hurry up and re-join his group. unless your doc is an alt that just buys packs and buffs players for the cash, then feeds the cash to the main. then you're kinda screwed. but if you're doing that, there's better professions to feed cash to another character, like armorsmith, weaponsmith or architect.
Rogha Dainar, Esq.
Master Bounty Hunter
It makes as much sense as letting non-bh's run jedi hunt missions.
Besides, you can rebuff in the vette or geo cave anyway.
DarthXanthic wrote:
You know, I've been thinking about it.
I want to be able to hunt jedi, but I don't want to be a bounty hunter.
I think they should make a droid with a jedi mission module in it for non-bh's.
You'd still have to buy the module from BH's, but then at least anyone could hunt jedi w/o having to grind Bounty Hunter.
bull**edit** you did.
MyT_Chicken wrote:
I mastered MBH in 67 hours....from sctratch...sorry man, its not that hard. Again your comments are pretty worthless.
GKeeper316 wrote:
i dare you to grind an MBH from scratch. i double dog dare you. its the biggest pain in the ass in-game, aside from jedi, of course. you can bust out a master doc in a few hours.
Rogha Dainar, Esq.
Master Bounty Hunter
GKeeper316 wrote:
and think, if you could just make the buff packs and put them on a vendor, nobody would send you a million tells a minute and you could go out and have fun instead of sitting in a starport.
try to think outside your little doctor bubble. you can say what you want about my idea. thats why i posted it. but never make the mistake of assuming im stupid or ignorant. attack the post, not the poster. if you don't like the idea, that's fine. from my perspective (and that of many other combat players) doc buffs are necessary to the survival of thier characters, and this is a way for everyone to be happy. you get paid. everyone else gets buffs when they need them instead of wasting time finding a doc.
look im sorry you guys feel like you need the respect of all other players for providing a necessary service. that has less to do with me thanall thisnew image designer crap. you talk about the "problems" you have as doctors, i dare you to grind an MBH from scratch. i double dog dare you. its the biggest pain in the ass in-game, aside from jedi, of course. you can bust out a master doc in a few hours.
im not saying anything bad about the doctors other than the fact (yes FACT) that the price of buffs has increased 100% in the last few months. im a master scout and in the off chance i do some contract work for a doc getting him some avian meat, i charge 5 cpu for any resource i gather. regardless of quality. i get paid from doing the missions. anything else is just gravy. you want cheap meat, docs of bria? tell me when and where and i'll hook you up. nobody forces you to pay 200 cpu for avian meat, especially since you have the skill points left over after mastering doc to pick up a combat profession, find a scout and go get some yourself. you can buy a droid that harvests for you, now.
Rogha Dainar, Esq.
Master Bounty Hunter
I understand that you are on Bria and everything, but guess what. If you look on trade forums, SP Spammers and every vendor you go to the high quality avian meat that is needed for the precious 900+ power buff pack sells for anywhere from 100-250cpu now. Now as me again why this does not affect prices? I do not buff the public anymore b/c of people who either dont have the common curtesy to stand in line or just don't respect the doctor or other people in line. Ok now that that does not matter to this conversation. I own a vendor on eclipse in one of the busiest malls on the server, and I charge 19k/pack and 90k/crate of 5. Each of these packs is a minimum of 930 power, 23-26 Charges and 12240 time (14045 on the action packs). You can blame the price hike on those of us few who provide the endless stream of packs to the average doc, but if you look at what they have been saying it is not the price of a pack that makes the money for a doc. It is the price of the service for taking time out of their schedule and sitting at a SP giving the masses what they want "A DOCTOR THAT IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE".
Now if every doctor had a vendor and sold packs...there would not only be a scarcity of resources but that would flood the market. I mean think of thousands of vendors all dedicated to buff packs, instead of just like...maybe 200? And only 20 of those per server are well known by the public. As for me, I do go out and hunt, my toon is a TKM/MD and I do go out and hunt.
GKeeper316 wrote:
look im sorry you guys feel like you need the respect of all other players for providing a necessary service. that has less to do with me thanall thisnew image designer crap. you talk about the "problems" you have as doctors, i dare you to grind an MBH from scratch. i double dog dare you. its the biggest pain in the ass in-game, aside from jedi, of course. you can bust out a master doc in a few hours.
If we provide such a necessary service, why shouldn't we get the respect of other players? Credits are worthless in the game, anyone can get them by the 100K's, I think respect is something to to get. Yes, I have grinded BH, and the investigation is a pain in the arse, I know that. Just because someone can grind Doctor in a few hours doesn't make them a good Doctor. I make good buff packs because I've saved resources from as far back as 8 months ago.
- Travin
GKeeper316 wrote:
and think, if you could just make the buff packs and put them on a vendor, nobody would send you a million tells a minute and you could go out and have fun instead of sitting in a starport.
try to think outside your little doctor bubble. you can say what you want about my idea. thats why i posted it. but never make the mistake of assuming im stupid or ignorant. attack the post, not the poster. if you don't like the idea, that's fine. from my perspective (and that of many other combat players) doc buffs are necessary to the survival of thier characters, and this is a way for everyone to be happy. you get paid. everyone else gets buffs when they need them instead of wasting time finding a doc.
look im sorry you guys feel like you need the respect of all other players for providing a necessary service. that has less to do with me thanall thisnew image designer crap. you talk about the "problems" you have as doctors, i dare you to grind an MBH from scratch. i double dog dare you. its the biggest pain in the ass in-game, aside from jedi, of course. you can bust out a master doc in a few hours.
im not saying anything bad about the doctors other than the fact (yes FACT) that the price of buffs has increased 100% in the last few months. im a master scout and in the off chance i do some contract work for a doc getting him some avian meat, i charge 5 cpu for any resource i gather. regardless of quality. i get paid from doing the missions. anything else is just gravy. you want cheap meat, docs of bria? tell me when and where and i'll hook you up. nobody forces you to pay 200 cpu for avian meat, especially since you have the skill points left over after mastering doc to pick up a combat profession, find a scout and go get some yourself. you can buy a droid that harvests for you, now.
Rogha Dainar, Esq.
Master Bounty Hunter
OMG you are so assanine.
If you want to buff yourself, drop BH and pick up Doc.
Until then, find a doc, and pay what they are asking and kindly, shut up.
Well Slayer420 mentioned this already, but should the buff droids be implemented, what would happen to the income of the docs who can't craft uber buffpacks? I know I don't have good enough resources to craft great buffpacks and it takes a very long time to collect them.Lesser packs just won't sell.It would kill me financially, since Doctor is the profession I depend on for income
Also, if you want to craft your own buffpacks, you need harvesters and factories. Since Doctors lack the skill for surveying, we have to depend on others to do that for us (unless we pick up artisan). Also, we have to buy the meat or hunt it ourselves (so we have to pick up scout). And one more thing is getting a vendor (more skill points on artisan) to sell these buffpacks in, which you can't even get if you are a master doc and master combat profession - there aren't enough skill points left for a vendor then. So to be an effective doctor with a vendor for selling these buffpacks, you can't master any other elite profession. That's giving up on a lot (can't even fight decently)for just being able to earn your pay as a doctor if the buffing system, as it is now, is taken out the window.
It's another thing if these droids merely used buffpack A or B for buffing. Real doctor buffs would still be in high demand then, but what about chef foods? Would that not diminish the demand for slightly stat boosting foods if there was an easy and convenient alternative always at hand (which the doctor buffing service, as you point out, clearly is not)?
GKeeper316 wrote:
bull**edit** you did.