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He's a Bounty Hunter, not a Doctor. Of course he wants this idea.

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GKeeper316 wrote:

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GenTesla wrote:

You want to buff yourself!! go doctor then!!!

Oh but i want to make my own harvesters please and not wait for an architect, oh i want to make my own armour but not be an armoursmith, i want to makeall thegeo scythes without being a weaponsmith, fine have a droid buff you yeah buff you at 50% what a master doc does see what i care

As far as your economics argument well where did you study economics then????? 1 2.2k buff all 6 stats for 12k lasts 3hrs....trip to dathomir do giant baz nitches at 11.5k a mission, times 2, 23k every 10 minutes (asssuming your a combat type) call it 15 minutes for travel so thats 4tripsper hour * 23k totals 92k.... timesthisby 3hours you get 276,000 credits......so for paying a doc 12k you earn 276,000, yeah economics m8 right we are undercharging thanks for pointing it out

Message Edited by GenTesla on 05-12-2004 09:45 AM

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its more of a convenience thing than a monetary issue. look, so far the only valid arguement to this has been the lack of income you docs would suffer as a result of this idea. if you inflate the buff pack price to offset the the income hit you would take, everyone's happy. i'm actually surprised to see more docs aren't on board for this. do you really enjoy sitting in one spot doing the same thing over and over again to rude, often hostile customers? do it this way and all you have to do is craft 'em, put 'em on a vendor, and go off and have some fun playing the game instead of sitting in a starport. who the hell wants to run all over the place looking for a doc, wasting time waiting for shuttles when we could still give you your main source of income and have the convenience of getting buffs whenever we need them, not whenever you feel like working. and 12k a buff? retarded, i say. i remember when a full buff cost 5k. just reinforces my belief that docs are the greediest players in the game. as long as you guys have a stranglehold on the most valuable in-game commodity, the entire player base will be at your mercy. it isn't fair to everyone else.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter.

p.s. this is why i cant master doc. i dont have the luxury of being able to master more than one elite profession. i have to be a useless master scout.

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We're the greediest? You must be joking. When people are charging 20 to 100 cpu for average avian meat, the one named resource we absolutely can not do withoutwhen making our buff packs, while any other meat is going for 3-5cpu for top quality stuff(up to 20x the normal price)? Shall we talk about fair now?

Boy, you economics majors sure know your stuff . But then again, since we're the one's supplying the buffs, which are in such high demand, perhaps it should also work in our favour, no? So when I happen to be the only doc in Coronet that's buffing, and I raise my price to 30k a set, I should ask my patients (who will still grudgingly pay, since they have no other option, and are so accustomed to buffs that they cant live without) to thank Rogha for explaining the laws of supply and demand to me.

Thanks again for the economics lesson. I'm sure your fellow players will be most pleased.

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GKeeper316 wrote:

p.s. this is why i cant master doc. i dont have the luxury of being able to master more than one elite profession. i have to be a useless master scout.

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As for receiving tells for buffs, when I became a novice doctor the other day I didn't really expect that many tells. Well, even as a novice doc I get regular requests to either buff, to come to a conveniently provided wp and buff, to make them buff packs and so on. So its no wonder every doc out there is buffing, if even a novice doctor is being showered with requests o.O

As for healing wounds, I've noticed even as a master medic, that we get less tips than entertainers - and that has to say something as well. Tho the most annoying encounters are patients with no patience -'"u done yet?" - and they walk away half done.

oh well. they're problem i guess. *shrug*

First off, let me say that I don't like the stim dispenser droids. This takes away from the skills of a medic. What is being suggested here is to take away from the skills of a Doctor. I'm a Doctor, not a pharmacist, and I don't want to get dozens of /tells asking that I load up someone's buff bot. On Sunrunner Med Use 90, 800+ powerbuff packs go for 500-600 credits per charge. So 20 charge packs will be 10-12K each, for all 6 packs that's 60-72K. Fine I can sell those packs for 72K if I wanted, or I could buff 20 people for 200K, how's that for economics? I wouldn't want to give away the /healenhance skill just because it's inconvient for some people to find a Doctor. If something like this was done, I would charge the same price I would get from those buffs. I don't sit around and buff for hours on end, only when I need a little more cash or I'm waiting on someone or something.

- Travin

Oh, crap, Darth, I am very sorry, I got the name wrong.

Dang, Dang, Dang. I wish I had the quote option. Very very sorry.

I ment to write to Ragha.

Again, very sorry.

and think, if you could just make the buff packs and put them on a vendor, nobody would send you a million tells a minute and you could go out and have fun instead of sitting in a starport.

try to think outside your little doctor bubble. you can say what you want about my idea. thats why i posted it. but never make the mistake of assuming im stupid or ignorant. attack the post, not the poster. if you don't like the idea, that's fine. from my perspective (and that of many other combat players) doc buffs are necessary to the survival of thier characters, and this is a way for everyone to be happy. you get paid. everyone else gets buffs when they need them instead of wasting time finding a doc.

look im sorry you guys feel like you need the respect of all other players for providing a necessary service. that has less to do with me thanall thisnew image designer crap. you talk about the "problems" you have as doctors, i dare you to grind an MBH from scratch. i double dog dare you. its the biggest pain in the ass in-game, aside from jedi, of course. you can bust out a master doc in a few hours.

im not saying anything bad about the doctors other than the fact (yes FACT) that the price of buffs has increased 100% in the last few months. im a master scout and in the off chance i do some contract work for a doc getting him some avian meat, i charge 5 cpu for any resource i gather. regardless of quality. i get paid from doing the missions. anything else is just gravy. you want cheap meat, docs of bria? tell me when and where and i'll hook you up. nobody forces you to pay 200 cpu for avian meat, especially since you have the skill points left over after mastering doc to pick up a combat profession, find a scout and go get some yourself. you can buy a droid that harvests for you, now.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter

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IiendarDarnau wrote:

I understand that you are on Bria and everything, but guess what. If you look on trade forums, SP Spammers and every vendor you go to the high quality avian meat that is needed for the precious 900+ power buff pack sells for anywhere from 100-250cpu now. Now as me again why this does not affect prices? I do not buff the public anymore b/c of people who either dont have the common curtesy to stand in line or just don't respect the doctor or other people in line. Ok now that that does not matter to this conversation. I own a vendor on eclipse in one of the busiest malls on the server, and I charge 19k/pack and 90k/crate of 5. Each of these packs is a minimum of 930 power, 23-26 Charges and 12240 time (14045 on the action packs). You can blame the price hike on those of us few who provide the endless stream of packs to the average doc, but if you look at what they have been saying it is not the price of a pack that makes the money for a doc. It is the price of the service for taking time out of their schedule and sitting at a SP giving the masses what they want "A DOCTOR THAT IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE".

Now if every doctor had a vendor and sold packs...there would not only be a scarcity of resources but that would flood the market. I mean think of thousands of vendors all dedicated to buff packs, instead of just like...maybe 200? And only 20 of those per server are well known by the public. As for me, I do go out and hunt, my toon is a TKM/MD and I do go out and hunt.

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thats exactly the point ofmy original post.inflate the price of the pack relative to the time/effort/resources necessary to make the pack and put it ona vendor. im really not trying to start any **edit** here. im just saying that from a convinience stand point, having buffs on demand is better for the combat classes. we dont mind paying the 10-15k for buffs. its the time wasted for the docs, who have to sit in starports, and the customers, who first have to travel to where the doc is and then wait in line to get the buff, then travel back to where they were in the first place. that can take up to an hour depending on how many docs are where you can find him, and how long the line is. and the stupid inefficient galactic travel comission.

harder content is coming into the game almost every update, and unlesswe can haveour own personal doc withus at all times, i can just see the wasted time we are all going to have to spend because this new content is impossible to do without buffs. would anyone be opposed to the docs making the same money they make now on buffs, and having more time in-game to do the thingsthey wanted instead of sitting in a damn starport dealing with spammers, rude customers, and (this is something i've seen a few times. a grief if you ask me) getting killed cuz you just buffed an overt faction member and got a tef?

im not trying to take away your main source of income. im trying to make it available on demand. there's a huge difference.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter

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GKeeper316 wrote:

thats exactly the point ofmy original post.inflate the price of the pack relative to the time/effort/resources necessary to make the pack and put it ona vendor. im really not trying to start any **edit** here. im just saying that from a convinience stand point, having buffs on demand is better for the combat classes. we dont mind paying the 10-15k for buffs. its the time wasted for the docs, who have to sit in starports, and the customers, who first have to travel to where the doc is and then wait in line to get the buff, then travel back to where they were in the first place. that can take up to an hour depending on how many docs are where you can find him, and how long the line is. and the stupid inefficient galactic travel comission.

harder content is coming into the game almost every update, and unlesswe can haveour own personal doc withus at all times, i can just see the wasted time we are all going to have to spend because this new content is impossible to do without buffs. would anyone be opposed to the docs making the same money they make now on buffs, and having more time in-game to do the thingsthey wanted instead of sitting in a damn starport dealing with spammers, rude customers, and (this is something i've seen a few times. a grief if you ask me) getting killed cuz you just buffed an overt faction member and got a tef?

im not trying to take away your main source of income. im trying to make it available on demand. there's a huge difference.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter

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I have to say I kind of agree with both side of this argument. I have yet to craft my own buffpacks, mainly because I don't have the time or money to get the quality resources needed. For me to make my money, I buy buff packs from some of the best docs on the server, and then I provide the service. If the devs did what you suggest, I would be out of work. On the same token, I don't necessarily enjoy sitting near a starport wading through a line of people wanting buffs. This is what I would suggest that wouldn't completely step on the dicks of every master doc out there: Let people run a buffbot, but that buffbot can only dispense enhance As or Bs. Basically same concept as the stimdroid. To all the master docs out there.. I don't see this affecting us much at all. When is the last time you even used a low level buffpack? There have been times where I was going to do something and would have liked a buff, but didn't need a 2300 point buff and thus didn't want to waste a set of my best packs on me, so this would have worked.. not to mention for people on the gothat don't want to wait in a long line, or can't find a master doc, they could get a basic buff and be on their way.

Oh and for the non docs in this discussion saying we overcharge.. I paid 1.5 million fora full set of the best buffpacks on my server in crates of 10. Just to break even I think I needed to charge 8k per buff. And for the power that these are, the doc that sold them to me suggested they could easily go for 15k per buff. I have never charged more then 10k, I have accepted more when it was offered and I was in the middle of doing my own thing. Overall I don't think docs are a greedy profession. On another note, some of you want to see us sitting in the med facilities waiting to heal your wounds, and in the same breath say we should have buffbots so we don't have to sit by the starport..LOL Ironic? I personally think the med facilities are more for up and coming docs.. as that is where they can get some XP. Masters don't need it, and the money just isn't there. And for your info, if anyone comes to me for a buff and has wounds, 9 out of 10 times I will heal their wounds first and then buff. What can I say, I am a nice guy

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DarthXanthic wrote:

One word for you: profession interdependence.

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what the **edit** does that mean? im not trying to take anything away from the docs, dumbass! im trying to make a valuable commodity more available. all you have done is flame the concept without offering anything constructive. the docs would still craft and sell the buffs for whatever the hell they wanted. if the rest of us had some way of using the buffs without the hassle of tracking down a doc, it will save evryone a bunch of time. you still make money. we are still dependent upon the docs to provide the pack, for a price, and we can use them whenever we need them.

dont ever try to tell me about profession interdependence, numbnuts. im a bounty hunter. im dependent upon a whole bunch of people and nobody is dependent on me. i offerhardly anythinguseful in this game to another player, while at the same time needing droids, weapons, armor, BUFFS from all the crafters. all i can do is hunt animals for resources and sell them. thats it. thats all i can do for anyone else. there is no way i could do it full time. just doesn't pay enough.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter

and i dont need a chef to feed me to get the effects of food, why should i need the doc to administer the buff. just paying for it outta be enough.

Rogha Dainar, Esq.

Master Bounty Hunter