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I'm a 4/4/4/2 Doc right now, and even though I've only been able to buy one set of buff packs, because the resources SUCK right now on Corbantis, I still wear my tag. If someone asks me nicely if I have any buffs by chance, they get them for free. If someone says, 'You buffin?', I say yea, 75k. If I'm going to take the time to sit down and buff someone, the least they can do is ask nicely.

well im gonna sit on the fence on this one, only because ive been MDOC for about 2 days now, i was given my first set of buff packs by a good friend from my pa. i am also TKM so i can hunt and make lots of money that way or i can use my building slots to harvest fusion for other members of my pa if i need money. Well yesterday i went to meet a friend in Theed because he was waiting in a doc line and had been for like 10 mins and was only about half way through, i pulled out my new pro-bot to show him and decided ill buff him so he can go and hunt with the rest of the pa before i logged out. Within minutes i was being bombarded with tells saying things like " you buffin mate" or you chargin 10k foir your buffs right " well actually i was not, i even had 4 people just tip me expecting to be buffed. Well hello do i have a say in the matter ? i think so ! the daftest part was i was wearing the tera kasi monk tag . So anyway i decided ok the demand is high ill buff for a while but charging 20k, so i sat down and shouted" Tera Kasi Monk buffs 2571 for 3h 40 mins . 20k no line ", soon i was getting people leave the long lines and ask to be buffed. Only one or two to start with, that was fine by me because im new and i didnt want to be stuck there for hours when i could be out hunting and actually enjoying the game more

Then it all started people started accusing me of trying to wreck the economy by charging 20k instead of 10k, my reaction was to say well just get back in the long line then cos ive got all day do you ?. There are some people who understand that they can make a fortune in under 4 hours and there are those that cant, but when i started out on my long journey to TKM I didnt have much money either but i could certainly make enough money to cover the cost of buffs at 20k that i would pay because i didnt want to spend 20-30 mins waiting to get buffed. Im not greedy because i was charging 20k for my buffs they were actually better than anyone elses that was buffing in theed but also you did not have to wait 20-30 mins for them, am i that bad for charging 20k i ask you ?

Its not just the buffs that you are paying for but my ingame time, im like most a casual gamer who gets to play for a few hours every other night(wife permitting) and i feel that i should be well compensated for this. I will travel to other places to buff others in my pa free if i have time and am not otherwise engaged and am forever giving money and loot items away to others. 20k is not unreasonable in my book when there is a long line, you dont have to use me if you dont want its your choice !

Ps i did have to change the bit in my advert about no line after a while cos i think 3 poeple counts as a line doesnt it

Pps where can i get a new keyboard for under 20k i just worn mine out

I tried to resist but I just couldn't.... LONG POST WARNING!

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Razorman400 wrote:

I just recently got master doc and from what i've seen so far doc's get more money than most professions wether they charge 10k or 25k for their buffs.

Let me guess, this is your first advanced profession mastered, right? Before less civil docs pound on you, lemme just illustrate some thingsfor you:

Docshave to advertise their prices, hence their revenue (but never their costs - resources, time, stress, etc.). Exactly why you (and 90% of the population)think docs earn far more money. It's more clearly VISIBLE than any other profession.

I am now a combat monkey. I run missions netting about800-1.2mil per 3 hour buff, and that's not counting the loot I get. But nothing is ever VISIBLE over spatial chat, no one ever questions or gives me grief over what I make. No one even knows or cares. Cuz what the mission terminal pays me doesn't directly impact them.

What are my costs? I have anset ofPvE compo armor that I have not replaced in the lastone month, I repair it sometimes but the cost to me over the last one month is just the 150k that I paid at the very beginning, 30k to repair my speederand another 80k for weapons that wear out and the PUPs. Ibought acrate of brandy for 130kand that one crate is still only half used. I use the sub-standard buffpacks that are leftover from failures in experimentation which is all you need on Dantooine anyway (say that costs 110k). What is my profit? I think you can easily mutiply my revenue by 30 (yes, I play every single day) and deduct the cost which comes up to only 500k. I will not even begin to start calculating the cost of public buffing for you. Check around the forums and you'll get an idea. But this is just for the combat professions which already makes up half the total so thestatement is already leaky.

I'vealso played in several non-combat professions forextended periods(I don't do holo-grinding). Some earn more and asome earn less at the beginning. But none has ever cost me as much in time, effort and credits as doc. And I say beginning because very few full-time buffdocs stayfull-time for long. Give it a month and you willsee brand new buffdocs at the starport. If you can ever sacrifice enough to make more credits as a doc than most of the non-combatprofessions, then power to you. You totally deserved it. If you're a pure buffdoc who doesn't make his own packs, you have it a lot easier, but you still earned it.

The profits are there for the taking if you are willing torisk ending up hating the game, the profession andthe players. Butyou can do the same with other non-combat professions without the same risks and pain.And no, you will never end up earning more than a combat profession for the same investment. So what you have "seen so far" is not near enough to the truth.

It's amazing how many holo-grinding/new docs who can't craft their own commercial packs (not the sub-850pwr homebrew ones ) or spend much time doing public buffing seem to think that they actually know how much it costs us with their exerggerated calculations.

For me i enjoy making freinds in the game more than makingthan money, i'd rather have a long list of freinds that i chat too than have 6 guild halls totally decorated and an extra 100 million k so i charge cheaper for my buffs.

As do many of us.I personallylove helping out in my city and crafting cool stuff. Being a doc makes you friends since you are able to help so many with so much. But try being a buffdoc for some time and chances are, you will see your ignorelist growing faster than your friendlist.

6 guild halls totally decorated?Not unless you are one of the top buffpack producers in your galaxy. If you can count more on your galaxy than you have fingers on yourhand, I have one more finger here for you. We are nottheusual crafting profession, our only customers arepeople with med knowledge, we also have customers who can only accept "uber" buffs made with only the best (expensive) materials. Most doctors are not able to compete with the established buffpack crafters due to their ability to outbid anything you throw at them and their huge stockpiles of quality resources and CAs. Go ahead and charge cheaper for your buffs if you like,cuz even if you charge 10k, you won't be seeing that extra 100mil and 6 guildhalls anytime soon.

But this also means that if i'm in an area where other docs are charging 20k for thier buffs, i will charge thesame so i don't piss them off. but really it's just a game and some of u i think are taking it a bit too seriosly.

Last week on Dantooine, a master doc was protesting "greedy docs" with 3.5k per buff. I promptly got into the queue instead of buffing myself. Hey, he just saved mesome and it felt good to be served for the cost of pocket change to a combat monkey. The next day, he was there again. Except this time the cost was 6.5k. I resisted poking fun at him and never got the chance to do so again cuz he never returned after the 2nd day. Supply and demand at work. Go ahead and lower your prices if you think that's what you deserve. There is little need to worry for the other docs as no one keeps it up for long with public buffing. Hate tells? Use "/addignore", the doctor's favourite command next to "/afk" when wearing the doctor tag.

Yes, you are right. Some of us do take it too seriously. This is not in reference toyou, but one of the things I really detest arebuttholes who pick arguments with you,get their stand shredded to bits, then proceed to go, "It's just a friggin game! Can't you take a joke??? You're taking it too seriously!". LOL.

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I do not deal with the rude or impatient very well. But I also hate the economy on my server. When some of the crazy crafters have 100 of millions of dollars it makes it kinda hard to compete. I personally try and help out anyone when I can. As far as buffs go I decided that crafting buffs and selling them is not worth my time and gets way to much like work and not a game. I can make sme decent money by just buffing folks for 12-15k I personally think that is a good price for 2450+ buffs for 3hrs+. But when we are treated like its our duty and we have to buff them. I personally dont care if i get thier moeny or not. To me its black or white pay me and be civilized or pay me be rude and get your money back. I'm not one for imature games addignore is easy enough to type i just deal with the rude/impatient.

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Here's my take on this...

I agreethat any doctorshould charge more if they are the ones that are harvesting and collecting their resources, which I do. I hand build my buff packs. I spend a lot of time and energy and credits traveling around and maintaining my harvesters. I DESERVE 15K+ for a buff, which is what I charge on Starsider. People are more than willing to pay it. For those that say "Not everyone can go and run 30K Janta missions with their buffs or they may just PvP"..here's my response. I started this game with my cdef pistol. I killed kreetles, I killed nunas. I worked my way up the tree. Did I log into the game and get buffed to grind out marksman? No. I bought a stim B pack, picked up missions around Bestine and worked at it, healing myself. I rarely buff myself even now as a master doc. People that log in and get buffed to "smell the roses" are throwing their credits out the window. They're taking buffs for granted. Not my problem. I don't care what people do with their buff. I'm going to charge what I feel I deserve to be paid. I work hard at it. I spend a lot of time crafting and working with harvesters. I also do 30K Janta missions. I do what I want, when I want. Doctor's services are undervalued and taken for granted. It's time people pay us for our efforts. I'm not saying everyone should be paid 25K for a buff when it's crap, or all the time. But it's time people realize that our services are invaluable. Here's the thing....they CAN survive without buffs. People who want to kill things beyond their ability is ridiculous. A Noob SHOULDN'T be able to solo Lord Nyax, they shouldn't be able to hand a tusken warlord his @#$@ on a plate. I don't like to "grind", nor does anyone else. But that's part of this game, right or wrong. You have to do it, but you don't HAVE to get a buff. I don't feel sorry for people who can't "afford" my buffs. Let them do some missions. Earn the RIGHT to get buffed. I had to, so did most people. Buffing is a luxury, not a right. When each person has "done their time" doing missions, they can then afford buffs, to do better missions. It's their choice to use buffs to earn credits or to smell the roses. It's their right. They can choose to get buffed and sit in the cantina. I don't care. It IS their responsibility to earn credits at some point if they want another buff. People DON'T have to get buffed to do missions. Those people use something called strategy and skill to do missions. That's how how real players play the game; they don't rely on buffs to keep them alive. Yes, I could have gotten buffed and did missions and high level mobs, but I was a noob and lowlevel combat template. I didn't DESERVE to do high level mobs. You should BE a master at a combat class to do solo Lord Nyax or a Tusken Warlord.

That's my 2 cents and I think this sums up both sides fairly well. Some will like it, some won't, but it IS reality. People don't Have to get buffed to play the game. I didn't get buffed and low and behold, I survived! I'm a master and now I get buffed on occasion (rare) to do a high level mob, but generally I don't. I rarely get buffed to do a Janta mission. I use skill and strategy to take out a Shaman. It makes the game fun. What fun is it to be invulnerable to everything and not have to worry about dying? No wonder people are bored with this game. With buffs, it's too easy. High level Buffs were a mistake in my opinion. Hopefully, one to soon be rectified with the Combat Revamp. Raising our prices is a way to make people play the game the way it was meant to be played. Using skill and strategy to take out a mob, not a buff.

IMO....

Visivius Alca'Vacho

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and many Doc's are with Dkora as well so that doesn't realkly count

Um if ppl PvP they have PLENTY of money if they went to be anygood!

and ANYONE can earn at least twice what they pay for a 15k buff in 3 hours even a noob!

NOTE: lol seem like I've quoted CyberBobs post twice guess it must have really got my attention

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SOE should giveletters to Docs when they first start out and split them into two groups those who want to make money and those who are in it for the pure fun and enjoyment of it. When these docs get super frustrated with where they are in the profession they should be allowed to open the letter and it should tell them this:

Maybe if they gave a warning some of these nonhacks wouldnt complain about feeling cheated because someone could take the precious buffs they are giving out and go make more money then they think they should. There are alot of good people out there buffing Im sure but the ones that are raising the prices and causing the problems are making the image that all Doctors are nothing but greedy crackheads. I just wish people would get it through your head that if you wanted to make more money being a Doc isnt the way to go... so please dont try and make the profession be something its not.

I proudly buff people for 6k much lower than anyone else... guess what, most people pay me 10k or higher. I also get offers for help almost daily for collection of supplies that I will need if they are spawning. It would be easier to charge the higher prices of 10k and 15k and have the elitist attitutde towards my clients.But then I would be here with you guys complaining about resources and how expensive they are, instead I found a way to make that price more managable just about the only way you can in this game. Its called making friends and you sure dont make any when people have the preceptation that your taking advantage of them.

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I buff for free when asked, and usually don't public buffunless i see a doctor gouging (like charging 28k for 2.8k/3hr buffs). I do keep my my master doc tag up most of the time as well, except on the once or twice a week janta outings.

The only fun that really is left to me in the game is hunting down resources to make factory runs. Even with a free price tag i make more then enough in tips to cover brandy/bivoli and harvestors (mine and rented). I swear the stole the resource shift idea from the lotto's <and the time left in shift is inversely proportianal to how many harvesters you place>

I have a few 100k left of high quality iron/meats/water/etc...and i find more all the time. In my case its the hunt that fun, and buffs are going to be drastically reduced anyways.

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