Doctor Archive

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neosayberbum wrote:

STOP PUBLIC BUFFING!

Stop buffing publicly altogether.....

Buff your friends and guildmates....

Make it near impossible to find a Doc (like the good ol days)....

Problem Solved!

Yes the rookies will have there fun for awile - but let them - there buffs will run dry - most of them won't know how to craft good buffs or have the resources to make them like the good doctors do.

Raise the prices of your buff packs to compensate for the stoppage of public buffing - making it hard for rookies to make a profit buffing publicly.

And go out and enjoy the little content we have hehe......Make the population remember how nice it is to have doctors and how needed we are....

If your stopped and asked for a buff tell them 50K - If they laugh /addignore and go about your business....

In no time people will have no problem paying 50K for a buff and they would be actually thanking you for the oppertunity to pay you for a buff.

(I know alot of you do not public buff anymore....but teach the younger generations of Doc's out there...there is more to SWG than sitting in front of a line of 75 angry people in coronet waiting on your buffs, crying that its taking forever and your prices are insane.

Enjoy the game people.....and let them worry about getting buffed

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The problem I have with this post is that the premise is wrong. What pricing epidemic? Basic economics tells us that the price in free market is governed by what sellers are willing to charge and what buyers are willing to pay. Therefore, this is nothing more than another attemptto price fix becuaseof theidea that you somehow deserve a share of someone else's work who is using "your" buffs to go out and make money. But this is short-sighted. The way the system works is that when sellers charge too much, the buyers stop buying. When sellers charge too little, buyers buy all the inventory and the sellers either have to make more or raise their prices. Somewhere in the process, the market price averages out at the appropriate level to create a stable supply and demand level at a fair price. However, the system fails when people on one side or the other decide that they do not like the price level and try to control it. And they always over simplify the problem because they only look at their income and not the overall effect on the market which will eventually adjust.

When one market segment raises its prices, other market segments have to adjust their prices to compensate for the increased costs, which spurs other segments to increase their costs. Eventually, the median price of all goods and services goes up, and while everyone is making more credits, the buying power of those credits goes down, leaving you eventually with the same real purchasing power you had before. Thisfact eventually spurs another round of price hikes and another stablization at the higher prices. This is called "inflation," and it only harms the economy, especially when people attempt to price fix, which is what this post is really about, stop buffing so people will pay the higher prices that we "deserve."

Here is a thought, charge what you want to charge and refuse services to those who will not pay your prices. If they do not like it and complain, let them know that there are other Docs who may charge less and that they are perfectly free to seek them out. If they continue to complain, ignore them and if they harrass you, report them. If you are charging a price that others are willing to pay, then you will make sales. If not, you won't and someone else will get business you could have had with a more reasonable price.

But everyone needs to stop this insane notion that price fixing will help their respective professions. It creates pricing pressures that the market will eventually compensate for by simply raising the median price of all goods and services, making the strategy a losing proposition for everyone.

Im guessing a lot of you people are on servers that dont see this problem, but the reason I so heavily support not buffing in public is because most of the customers end up being jerks. I tell people my rates and what my buff power hits for, then they complain about the price, pay it, then complain about the price and the buff power. The flame me and spam me till I sign off, MOST coustomers are jerks on Chilestra. Because of this, we should put a damn strangle hold on buff till they show some civility, that is all I ask, be kind to a person performing a service to you. Why is that so much to ask? I have my buff yell detailing all the necessary info, I recieve the mail telling me I've been bank tipped, I buff the person, they leave. THat is all I need, hello and thanks is nice, but all I want is a person not yelling at me for being a "noob tard" or "ripping people off" when I have been in since the beta and I fairly advertised my prices and you choose to pay for it. People who support these people by actually buffing them now, after all this crap are just supporting them being jerks to the rest of us, which is why I say "Stop buffing in public" However, buffing nice people is okay, but dont buff the jerks, for your own sake and ours as well.

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ZeroK0ol wrote:

A rookie is never as good as a veteran.

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Bzzt! Wrong answer. Veteran status makes you no better than a rookie. Why you ask?

Multiple Choice Question

A - Veterans tend to get arrogant and cocky and think they know everything, and the best ways to do everything. Incorrect. A Complete newb can sometimes stumble on a better way of doing things that someone else didn't ever consider. The simple fact that an arrogant, cocky veteran would not listen to this (instead thinking they know all and they're better) where a rookie would be open to suggestions, puts the veteran at a disadvantage.

B - Some rookies actually take the time to learn and research before ever starting the profession. For instance, I recently made master doc. A task I did not even start until after more than 40 hours worth of scouring the boards, various websites, and talking to longtime docs ingame to gather as much information and knowledge as I possibly could before starting on my journey. I recently had to instruct someone who's been a master doc for quite some time now as to why their buffs weren't as hitting as high as others, how to figure buff strength, how to figure resource quality, etc. Some Master Docs who have been master docs and played the profession still don't have the info because they've never bothered to research the info and learn, instead simply trodging along blissful in what they did not know, some of them not even realizing there was anything better out there than what they were doing in X category. I may not know it all, and will not claim I do, because NOBODY ever knows it all. I may not know the ABSOLUTE best way to craft buffs, but then again, "best way" is a subjective term and is a matter of opinion. Best way, and best stats to me may be different than your idea, may be different than someone else's idea, etc. I also have no intention of making buff packs (I may change my mind on this, but ATM I'm pretty set) mainly because I do not wish to go find and drudge up the resources myself, and trying to find reliable people to supply resources is too much of a pain, when reliable people tend to equal long time players getting bored with the game, who soon quit, then you have to do it all over again, ugh.

C - Veteran Doctors tend to be jaded. They get mad and disgruntled and pissy (with good reason I'll well admit) with the treatment of docs. But, instead of realizing that it is a relative few in the grand scheme of things that cause their grief, they act like it's everyone, and take it out on the whole player base (it's 100x easier to and more likely you will remember an arse who ruined your day than remember the 10 that were mild mannered, polite, and just didn't do anything to stand out from the crowd).
Then they decide, somewhere in their addled heads, that the solution is to drop to the level of the players that piss them off. Calling for all docs to stop buffing the public, and price gouge on buff packs so docs who don't fall in line can't make a profit without making their own buff packs (while ARROGANTLY assuming that nobody who's not a vet could do so with any level of competence) is nothing more than calling for petty, immature, self centered acts to empower an outcome that is nothing more than revenge, which in itself is a petty, immature, self centered goal.

D - ALL OF THE ABOVE <------ DING DING DING


None of the above statements are intended to be all inclusive of veteran docs. I am well aware of the fact that there are plenty of good veteran docs out there who don't subscribe to the "the whole playerbase is a bunch of ingrates, don't help them" theory, as well as I am aware that not all (and not even most) of the players act in a rude, ungrateful manner. It is unfortunate, however, that there seem to be more and more docs getting so spiteful as to make, agree with, or encourage these kind of actions. Doing these things is no better than the things those rude players do, and only serves to drop you to their level and make you no better than they are.

I second that. I stopped buffing the public and alot of other Docs on Ahazi did too. My alt is the doctor btw.

I got tired of the complaints, the ppl demanding to go first, the ppl TRYING TO DUEL ME BECUASE MY BUFFS WERE ONLY 2 hrs 49 min INSTEAD of 3 hrs! It was 2487 increase, 12k wasn't too much! I EVEN TOLD HIM, I don't buff the public anymore because of ppl complaining, and he still griped afterwards!

I rarely buff strangers, sometimes I will buff somebody who's screaming 30k per buff. And I stopped hiding my MD title, I started wearing it all the time. And I tell everyone of them why I don't buff public.

Buff are probably going to dissappear or be seriously nerfed soon. If they want them, they need to start being nicer to the doc buffing. I wouldn't think a single bad thought if somebody was doing buffs at 20k only. Even if they WEREN'T using bivoli.

2500+ buffs here, i only charge 12k if someone sends a polite tell to me,

Time to go back to school. ok Grammar time:

Rookie:

1. Slang.
2. An untrained or inexperienced recruit, as in the army or police.
3. An inexperienced person; a novice.
4. Sports. A first-year player, especially in a professional sport.

Veteran:

1. A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns.
2. A person who has served in the armed forces: “Privilege, a token income... were allowed for veterans of both world wars” (Mavis Gallant).
3. An old soldier who has seen long service.


adj.

1. Having had long experience or practice: a veteran actor.
2. Of or relating to former members of the armed forces: veteran benefits.



So tell me how a rookie can know more than a veteran? oh yeah, thats right, didnt gradjimate the 3rd grade.....

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Let's see...
Rookie:
3. An inexperienced person; a novice. <--- Gee that would be me now wouldn't it? I just recently made master doc, don't have much EXPERIENCE doing it, but did acquire a lot of KNOWLEDGE before hand. See the key difference there? EXPERIENCE vs. KNOWLEDGE? A person who doesn't have much EXPERIENCE can have more KNOWLEDGE of a subject than someone who is a...

Veteran:
1. A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns.
a person who has been a master doc for 6 months, a year, maybe more who has EXPERIENCE playing the profession, but never has bothered to go out and acquire the KNOWLEDGE of the "best" way to do things, the most efficient way to do things, or whatever else. Kinda like people can be doing something all wrong for years and years, they still get the task done, but having never properly learned or researched it, be doing it in a rather ineffecient or ineffectual manner. Only problem being, if nobody corrects them, they may not ever realize there's a more efficient way or more effective way to do it, and trudge along blissful in their ignorance.

Key here, KNOWLEDGE is not synonomous with EXPERIENCE. EXPERIENCE is what (in this case) would determine the difference between rookie and veteran, KNOWLEDGE does not. Therefore, it is possible for a person with less EXPERIECE (hence a rookie) could have more KNOWLEDGE than someone with more EXPERIENCE (hence a veteran).

Now, go back, read the post again, and read the part about me instructing someone who's been a master doc for quite some time in matters of being a doc that I (as a rookie with no experience) KNEW MORE ABOUT than they (as a veteran with many times more experience than I) did, and you have your answer.

Oh, and next time, just because you've been corrected, don't get up on your high horse and take matters to a personal level by throwing around insults. "So tell me how a rookie can know more than a veteran? oh yeah, thats right, didnt gradjimate the 3rd grade....."
I am a high school graduate, and college educated, thank you very much. I would point out that you obviously missed the part of school where they tought the concept of Apples and Oranges and not comparing the two (EXPERIENCE vs. KNOWLEDGE), but doing so would only be sinking to your level, so I won't. Oh, wait, I just did... oh well, even I'm occasionally prone to doing so when it is so DESPERATELY begged for.

Oh, and just to further the point of a rookie knowing more than a vet...

I have been playing this game for about 2 months. That would make me a rookie.
I am in a guild with people who have been playing since release. That would make them veterans.

Now, whenever anyone has questions about macros, quests, various ingame commands, when X weapon can be used, what's needed to make this or that, they ask me. Why? Because they, although being veterans to the game, do not educate themselves on such matters by searching out and learning the relevant information. I, as a rookie, do educate myself on such matters by searching out and learning relevant info on all sorts of things. In addition, they do not utilize or even know resources such as the web and the forums to find info that they don't already know or have forgotten. I, on the other hand, know and utilize tons of resources for finding new info that I don't know or have forgotten.

See that key difference there again? I (as a rookie) do not have EXPERIENCE, but I do have KNOWLEDGE. They (as veterans) do not have KNOWLEDGE, but they do have EXPERIENCE.

Care to give that another try now?

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Zulummar wrote:

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ZeroK0ol wrote:

A rookie is never as good as a veteran.

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Bzzt! Wrong answer. Veteran status makes you no better than a rookie. Why you ask?

Multiple Choice Question

A - Veterans tend to get arrogant and cocky and think they know everything, and the best ways to do everything. Incorrect. A Complete newb can sometimes stumble on a better way of doing things that someone else didn't ever consider. The simple fact that an arrogant, cocky veteran would not listen to this (instead thinking they know all and they're better) where a rookie would be open to suggestions, puts the veteran at a disadvantage.

B - Some rookies actually take the time to learn and research before ever starting the profession. For instance, I recently made master doc. A task I did not even start until after more than 40 hours worth of scouring the boards, various websites, and talking to longtime docs ingame to gather as much information and knowledge as I possibly could before starting on my journey. I recently had to instruct someone who's been a master doc for quite some time now as to why their buffs weren't as hitting as high as others, how to figure buff strength, how to figure resource quality, etc. Some Master Docs who have been master docs and played the profession still don't have the info because they've never bothered to research the info and learn, instead simply trodging along blissful in what they did not know, some of them not even realizing there was anything better out there than what they were doing in X category. I may not know it all, and will not claim I do, because NOBODY ever knows it all. I may not know the ABSOLUTE best way to craft buffs, but then again, "best way" is a subjective term and is a matter of opinion. Best way, and best stats to me may be different than your idea, may be different than someone else's idea, etc. I also have no intention of making buff packs (I may change my mind on this, but ATM I'm pretty set) mainly because I do not wish to go find and drudge up the resources myself, and trying to find reliable people to supply resources is too much of a pain, when reliable people tend to equal long time players getting bored with the game, who soon quit, then you have to do it all over again, ugh.

C - Veteran Doctors tend to be jaded. They get mad and disgruntled and pissy (with good reason I'll well admit) with the treatment of docs. But, instead of realizing that it is a relative few in the grand scheme of things that cause their grief, they act like it's everyone, and take it out on the whole player base (it's 100x easier to and more likely you will remember an arse who ruined your day than remember the 10 that were mild mannered, polite, and just didn't do anything to stand out from the crowd).
Then they decide, somewhere in their addled heads, that the solution is to drop to the level of the players that piss them off. Calling for all docs to stop buffing the public, and price gouge on buff packs so docs who don't fall in line can't make a profit without making their own buff packs (while ARROGANTLY assuming that nobody who's not a vet could do so with any level of competence) is nothing more than calling for petty, immature, self centered acts to empower an outcome that is nothing more than revenge, which in itself is a petty, immature, self centered goal.

D - ALL OF THE ABOVE <------ DING DING DING


None of the above statements are intended to be all inclusive of veteran docs. I am well aware of the fact that there are plenty of good veteran docs out there who don't subscribe to the "the whole playerbase is a bunch of ingrates, don't help them" theory, as well as I am aware that not all (and not even most) of the players act in a rude, ungrateful manner. It is unfortunate, however, that there seem to be more and more docs getting so spiteful as to make, agree with, or encourage these kind of actions. Doing these things is no better than the things those rude players do, and only serves to drop you to their level and make you no better than they are.

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Time to go back to school. ok Grammar time:

Rookie:

1. Slang.


2. An untrained or inexperienced recruit, as in the army or police.


3. An inexperienced person; a novice.


4. Sports. A first-year player, especially in a professional sport.

Veteran:

1. A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns.


2. A person who has served in the armed forces: “Privilege, a token income... were allowed for veterans of both world wars” (Mavis Gallant).


3. An old soldier who has seen long service.

adj.

1. Having had long experience or practice: a veteran actor.


2. Of or relating to former members of the armed forces: veteran benefits.

So tell me how a rookie can know more than a veteran? oh yeah, thats right, didnt gradjimate the 3rd grade.....