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Thread: Why are some Docs...

homebreu
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:03 am
#14

I always just buff them real quick, and on one ever complains. I like entertainers. I was one once a while back.


To be perfectly honest though, I quit buffing the public. It is just to much stress for the amount of money you get. Yes, it is allot of money in a real short time... But the stress level in that 3 hour time span is VERY intense at times.


If you were to walk into a Mcdonalds at lunch time, and there was only one person working in the building (Cooking, taking orders, taking your money and giving you your food), this would be an almost completely accurate analagy of what it is likefor a doc buffing the public for just 3 hours.



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DarthXanthic
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:52 am
#15






vernon_sullivan wrote:

It's just most of the Doctors are feel like a king when they started to buff people. Because only a few people really does roleplaying in this game. Just think about a RL doc. There is a line and you told him you are in hurry and it's a minor problem. What reply you would get? "Hey back to end of line.. dont you see I'm busy?" Don't think so.. It must be something like "Excuse me sir but you had to wait just like veryone. Would you please back to the line?". Why? Because docs are kind and nice people. But in the SWG! No most of them are hard and harsh as a hooker on the street. Lack of maturity and roleplay... everywhere..






Get master doctor, buff in coronet for 3 hours on a Sunday, and then come back to me being nice and friendly.


Won't happen.


Here is the situation I see on Bria now more than anything:


New player gets doctor.


Buffs for money for about a week.


Gets enough resources from profit to make their own packs for buffing just friends/guildies; or gets enough profit to drop doctor all together and go straight combat for awhile.


Some even open up medical shops.


I've been playing this game 3 months, I mastered doctor my first week. I haven't buffed for money since my third week.


That is how absolutely horrible it is.


Sure doctors in real life are generally nice. The reason being = patients aren't complete ungrateful jackasses who expect something for nothing, and in a hurry also.


Sure I'm generalizing, and there are some very nice people out there on both sides of this fence, and some jackasses on both sides as well.


All I'm saying is if you think doctors act like "kings with bad attitudes" while buffing; be one.


What's that saying "don't judge someone till you've buffed a mile in their shoes"?


Something like that anyways.
pseudonimity
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:56 pm
#16

I've buffed at extremely busy times before, I'm nothing but nice to my customers, and they're nothing but the same. I'm surprised, out of all the horror stories I've read on here, I have not hadone upset/terribly annoying customer that I can remember. If someone were to get on my nerves, I'd just laugh at them and /addignore. I don't need their business...I honestly don't understand how you can do something that will stress you...in...what is this again...a role..playing...GAME, that's right. It's about fun, if something's not fun to you, don't do it I have the same affinity for entertainers that some others seem to, and I probably would have just done their buff real quick, but it was kind of rude to assume you would get to be ahead of everyone else automatically. A better analogy for this is at the grocery store, if you only have one item, sometimes people will let you cut them if there's a long line, but that's up to the people in line, not you




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VTmoon
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:50 pm
#17

I really don't see how come this is even an issue... It's basic common sense from everyday life. I don't get to cut in line at the grocery store just because I'm buying a pack of gum compared to the fat lady infront of me who decided to buy one from each item in the store...


I'm truly impressed with the lack of common sense people have... this is by all means is not to be a rant but just a simple reminder of the fact that your avatar is not anymore special than the other avatars waiting in that line they all have people behind them.


Sorry again for comming off as a rant but I'm just in wow...






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pseudonimity
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:54 pm
#18

Yet some people are nice enough to let you cut, that was my point...Hell, I've had people offer to let me cut when I only have one or two items, but I've refused because I don't think I should. Apparently the whole post wasn't read




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LightG1138
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:31 pm
#19

i just got master doc this afternoon and i have already recieved enough /tells to drive a person mad. I personally have a patient inner character so i can deal with the average 3 tells every 5 minutes asking for buffs. but i suppose it is easily understandable if some people lose it and let their frusteration get the best of them. Just remember that even if some docs sound really mean or whatever that its not personal, but we have a big business to keep up with and im sure some people aren't very sympathetic to having people throw their concentration/pace off.



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Khronos-
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:37 pm
#20

i always try to stay as friendly as possible..i dont have problems with entertainers line jumping....they have a tough profession and deal with more lag than we do =)

i think that we doctors and entertainers should stick together. Entertainers make our lives easier



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Youna
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:59 pm
#21

I have absolutely no sympathy for the original poster whatsoever. If there are numerous people waiting in line to get buffed, why does he think he is so special that he can cut in front of everyone to get a buff? It doesn't matter that he only needs a quickness buff. People stand in line for a reason. Respect that. Coming in here whining, and accusing doctors of not being nice is, in my opinion, very rude and obnoxious.


I have never been a doctor. I only seek out a doctor to get buffed when I need a full set. I just wait my turn patiently, then cash tip the doctor, get buffed, and off I go. It really isn't that hard. Apparently some people just don't get it.


I don't like to flame anyone, but this person really is asking for it. It is this kind of selfish and ignorant attitude that ruins a good game.
Pahdbacca
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:27 am
#22

Some Docs get grumpy for the following reason....


Customer A wants to get only 1 buff when there is already a line 10 deep to be buffed.


Doc tells customer A, sorry, to be fair you have to wait in line.


Doc then starts receiving tells for the next5 minutes as to why it's not fair to wait in line for 1 buff.


Although the doc wishes to be nice, they finally have to end the converstion with....get in line, or don't get the buff, wich, of course, seems rude to customer A.


Meanwhile customer B thinks they should be able to jump to the head of the line by offering an additional 10k.


Customer C thinks they should be able to get to the front of the line because they died 10 minutes after getting their buffs and shouldn't have to wait in line again.


Customers D and E are upset because a guildmate got to cut to the front of the line. Nevermind that said guildmate is a master ranger and is off to harvest 10k of avian meat that normally sells for 45cpu so the guild doc can make buff packs.


Customers B,C,D, and E each fire off 2-5 tells stating their case for an additional 8-20 tells.


3 more customers ignore the macro stating every minute buff stats, duration and cost....(invariably, instead of asking the question, 2 of those 3 start with one tell, either "hey" or "Can I ask you a question")


And finally.....customer F


Customer F says 'hey...I only need a quickness buff. Can I cut to the front of the line?'


Customer F says 'Why not? I only need one stat buffed.'



Mind you, I'm not trying to flame you or be critical. I'm just trying to show you that if a Doc buffs for more than 10 minutes, it becomes exponentially harder to reply to tells without being short or abrupt and without becomeing very angry with people that want to argue with them. There are a lot of customers that believe they should be treated as a special case and then get upset when they are not. Chances are, half of the docs that seem grumpy end up making an apology to the customers that wait quietly in line and follow directions.





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Pahdbacca
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:28 am
#23

Sorry, lithium signed me out in mid post

Message Edited by Pahdbacca on 04-20-2004 03:29 PM



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Tiberian74
Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:01 am
#24






Starphire wrote:

several ways to p|ss off a doc


1. Durring a PVP battle you dont invite them to your group, then half your group sends tells asking for a res and you havn't consented them and they really dont want to run around all over trying to find your body while they try to stay alive.



2. Durring a PVP battle you dont invite them to your group, then half your group sends tells asking for a res and you give them the WP, they come and die because you led them right to the area were the enemy is yet you didn't bother to tell them there was an enemy next to your dad body.


3. You send them a tell asking if they are buffing while there is a 10 person buff line (i prefer, "can i get in line for a buff, how much?" vs. "Hey are you buffing?" Yes, "Can I get a buff?" yes, "how much?", that took a lot of energy to answer three questions that could have been one while i get 50 other tells asking the same exact thing whilst no one pays attention to the fact that I just said outloud "yes i am, 8k."


4. You ask a doc what their buff stats are (while this is a good question and one you deserve an answer to i would prefer you ask the guy in front of me who has nothing to do but wait for me to buff him, while i deal with 20 other tells).


5. Durring a PVE battle you don't bother to protect your doc, who ONLY came to be on doc watch and give up ANY XP they could gain because they are your friend and they DIE cause you didn't protect them and then people complain because they cant find a doc who wants to sit around heal people for no xp, no loot only to die cause no one is protecting them.


Are those good enough reason?





all very good resons imo.


in responce to number 3, i used to tell people - No this is an optical illusion
Phillio64
Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:21 am
#25

I sometimes buff in Coronet - sometimes for two hours. (after that it's usually late and I'm tired and sick of buffing, lol)


You get those people who think the line is going to slow and say "F***this..." and storm out, but you also get those people (the majority I've noticed) who wait patiently and are nice. But, I still do not do one stat buffs. The reason why (stated by many other docs) is because I have the exact number of buffs, so if one goes, a whole set goes. I may be able to buff you right then, but I don't because of stated reason.


And I've had my stressing moments. Once I was the only doc in Coronet (usually there are ast least two others) who left right as I came... I was getting so many tells that I evetually replied to everyone "line". If they understood what it meant, they just got in line, lol. Luckily my friend was there who kinda "bounced" people (cutters, etc..)





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Cyluru
Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:52 pm
#26

i will say im prolly one of the nicest doc's...for the sole reason that i dont buff. im nice because i dont stress over the whole process...i only buff when im really low on funds and need a quick jumpstart. if someone sees me buff myself in town and they nicely ask for a buff, i just may buff, but if im in a hurry i apologize. ill explain my tag isnt up i dont want to be bothered. some people start out very rude, and it excallates. ill epxlain if they want the luxury of buffs, they should master it themselves...by no means does my being a master doc mean i have to bend to the will of everyone...



i know this isnt what u wanted as an answer, but it somehow fits with what everyone else is saying as well.

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