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Thread: How good should herbivore and Avian meat be?
Rolassk wrote:
Sevardos wrote:
I've sold and still sell 800-850 buffs and of course 875 to 900+. Pricethem accordingly and they sell very well and fast. I've found customers want availability more than power (majority I mean - I do have customers who crave every single additional power point). They don't want to go to 10 places looking for buffs - they want a place that's always stocked. That is why I said 'what is your goal' because it will mean different considerations.
Also, I did assume that you'd have 900+ OQ gas. There's no exuse not to have 900+ gas, it's not that rare. Therefore, your numbers will go up with my rule of thumb.
Bria > Kettemoor
I could definatly see the most populated server having more demand for a wider variety of products. I had some old 849power master level buffs that I couldn't even sell at 2,500 a pack (cost me about 5,500 to make)not 1 person on Kettemoor wanted to buy a single pack.
Also don't assume, our server hasn't had 890+OQ gas for about 80 days now. As we can both see the resources and product demand very greatly betweenservers.
No offense, but 80 days is not a long time. But I agree, servers do differ.
Bermag wrote:
What kind of difference would you see in a Stim using regular compared to advanced CRDM? let say you use the best non-creature resources on WH, what would the stats on Stim B w regular vs advancedCRDM be?
Also question is what is best, regular CRDM or a ACRDM using bad herbivore (let say OQ+PE=1200)?
CDRMs go to 20 power and ACDRMs go to 75 power (really 72 due to Herbivore PE cap). In practice, most docs can make CDRMs of18 or 19power and ACDRMs of up to 60 to 65 power. These are straight one-for-one addons to Stim (or buff) power, so a 65 power ACDRM will create a stim that is 45 points higher in power than a 20 power CDRM. So a 400 power veggie (regular CDRM) Stim B becomes 445 power.
ACDRM with bad herbivore will always be better in terms of power. If you get a ton of good class 4, you can make 40 to 50 strength ACDRMs with the worst herbivore meat. I do a lot of this using cheap, but good class 4 combined with cheap, but bad to average herbivore. It will still cost more to make though since you go from 16 units of non-meat resources in the CDRM to 16 units of rare non-meat and 16 units of meat. As long as you don't overpay for the class 4 or herbivore, it's usually worth it.
Personally, I've aquired 500K of mixed quality herbivore meat at a cost of 10 cpu or less. As a result, I now put ACDRMs into everything I make. I just make sure I use the bad meat (~45 power ACDRMs) on Stim Cs and upand woundpacks, the average meat (~55 power ACDRMs) on Stim Bs and poisons/disease cures, and the best meat (~65 power ACDRMs)on buff packs.
Edited to fix cap on CDRM power.
Message Edited by Happymob on 09-30-2004 02:19 PM
Happymob wrote:
Bermag wrote:
What kind of difference would you see in a Stim using regular compared to advanced CRDM? let say you use the best non-creature resources on WH, what would the stats on Stim B w regular vs advancedCRDM be?
Also question is what is best, regular CRDM or a ACRDM using bad herbivore (let say OQ+PE=1200)?
CDRMs go to 25 power and ACDRMs go to 75 power (really 72 due to Herbivore PE cap). In practice, most docs can make CDRMs of 23 or 24 power and ACDRMs of up to 60 to 65 power. These are straight one-for-one addons to Stim (or buff) power, so a 65 power ACDRM will create a stim that is 40 points higher in power than a 25 power CDRM. So a 400 power veggie (regular CDRM) Stim B becomes 440 power.
*Kettemoor
Rolassk wrote:
Happymob wrote:
Bermag wrote:
What kind of difference would you see in a Stim using regular compared to advanced CRDM? let say you use the best non-creature resources on WH, what would the stats on Stim B w regular vs advancedCRDM be?
Also question is what is best, regular CRDM or a ACRDM using bad herbivore (let say OQ+PE=1200)?
CDRMs go to 25 power and ACDRMs go to 75 power (really 72 due to Herbivore PE cap). In practice, most docs can make CDRMs of 23 or 24 power and ACDRMs of up to 60 to 65 power. These are straight one-for-one addons to Stim (or buff) power, so a 65 power ACDRM will create a stim that is 40 points higher in power than a 25 power CDRM. So a 400 power veggie (regular CDRM) Stim B becomes 440 power.
CRDMs max out at 20 power
I have been making 18 and 19 power CRDMs for quite sometime now using 1800+ OQ&PE materials.
If CRDMs max at 20 then you must need 1000's across the boards to make them. I've tried with 1000 OQ/993 PE organic and 999 OQ inorganic and still only get 19 strength.
MataHairy wrote:
If CRDMs max at 20 then you must need 1000's across the boards to make them. I've tried with 1000 OQ/993 PE organic and 999 OQ inorganic and still only get 19 strength.
You are, of course, correct. Was thinking ABEC power, which does max at 25 (ABEC charges max at 20).
Rolassk wrote:
CRDMs max out at 20 power
Happymob wrote:
Personally, I've aquired 500K of mixed quality herbivore meat at a cost of 10 cpu or less. As a result, I now put ACDRMs into everything I make. I just make sure I use the bad meat (~45 power ACDRMs) on Stim Cs and upand woundpacks, the average meat (~55 power ACDRMs) on Stim Bs and poisons/disease cures, and the best meat (~65 power ACDRMs)on buff packs.
Bermag wrote:
Happymob wrote:
Personally, I've aquired 500K of mixed quality herbivore meat at a cost of 10 cpu or less. As a result, I now put ACDRMs into everything I make. I just make sure I use the bad meat (~45 power ACDRMs) on Stim Cs and upand woundpacks, the average meat (~55 power ACDRMs) on Stim Bs and poisons/disease cures, and the best meat (~65 power ACDRMs)on buff packs.
What do you consider "average" and "bets meat"? What is the worst ever to consider using?
My own records suggest that 500 OQ, 350 PE really is average herbivore. I know that the best possible is 1000 OQ, 700 PE. I personally consider anything with OQ+OQ+PE > 2200 to be "very good". So an 800 OQ, 600 PE or 900 OQ, 300 PE. Those 2 meats are equivalent for power, but the 800 OQ/600PE variety will often be much cheaper (people will bid up high OQ meat even if the secondary stats are garbage).
I would and do use double digit meats if I have them in quantity. A 100OQ/100 PE herbivore meat, when combined with a very average class 4 liquid petro (500 OQ, 500 PE), will produce a 40 power ACDRM. That won't cut it in buff packs, but may be perfectly acceptable in lower margin products.