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Thread: To docs who think we should charge 10k minimum for buffs
Wujiwak you are right.
I charge (10K) based on my time. Sometimes I will charge 1cred per point buffed, and I (very) often make more then 10k that way. As it is now, 10k for a full set really isn’t worth my time (maybe I should go to 12k a set). I would rather be with my friends having fun.
The only question thatmatters is what does it really cost us.
Time.
Our time.
"People don't like or want you around if you're going to be greedy."
What? You hear that at Coronet spaceport all day? Dude..Coronet Spaceport is the K-Mart of SWG. People go there to buy products and services CHEAPLY. I don't even advertise my buffing services in Coronet--but if I'm the only Doc there you can bet that people will pay my 10k fee without hesitation.
If I'm camped at the Imp Outpost on Dant I could easily get away with charging 20k per set to all those high-level mission groups that weren't bright enough to bring thier own Doc along but still need buffs to make that 100k per hour killling pickets and whatnot. I charge 10k---more than fair for the return on investment. It's not just the cost of the resources to make the buffs that you have to worry about--its the cost of your time. See, I could easily buff myself and take my T21 out and make WAY more money doing my own missions than charging 6k a pop for buffs--so if you want my buffs you'll pay for my resources AND my time.
Plus, look at some of our buffpack components:
Lokian Wild Wheat, Tatooian Fiberplast, Dantooine Berry Fruit, Talusian Water Vapor, Dolovite Iron, Domesticated Oats, Class IV Petro Fuel, Avian Meat, etc, etc...
We have to put a harvester of some kind on at least 4 different planets!! I can't own a large house because I'd never have enough lots left to place all the different kinds of harvesters I need just to get the stuff to make these buffpacks. And you're tellin me 10k is too much for buff set?
Like I said..you wanna charge 6k or 4k or give em away for free...that's all good for you. I know the value of the service I offer so I will continue to charge a much more cost-to-benefit appropriate fee for my buffs.
To those non-doctors out there that think doc's are unreasonable for charging 10K for a full set of Master Doctor buffs...
Understand... I don't *need* to buff you. That's not meant as a slight.. but I make around 3 to 4 million a week in pharmaceutical sales (and there are many doctors that make far more than that). THAT is my primary source of income.
Buffing is the primary income for some doctors... but not all... and for those that it's not... we really don't care whether or not you like our buff prices or don't.
If you want me to buff you.. you'll pay my price... if you don't... you won't... it won't affect my pocketbook in the slightest... and it certainly won't hurt my feelings if you don't want to pay what I charge.
Just don't give me any lip about it... go find another doc and be on your way. 
purplebooks wrote:
Most docs are just really greedy....
Im still charging 4k for a full set and thinking of lowering that to 3k a set.. its cheap as hell to make the stuff. My wife is a master BE and we have an almost Master Tailor so I have a full suit of +25 +25 and +17 +17 clothes...
To those Docs thinking of charging 10k a set.... go away! The people dont like or want your around if your going to be greedy I hear it all day at the Coronet Starport.
Rot and die in hell, its people like you that make this profession suck the life out of us. 3k for a full buff? Are you joking? Jesus christ, I'd never be able to turn a decent profit.
Matchstick, I love you. Will you marry me? 
j/k! But you just stole the words right out of my mouth. See you around!
Ruda, Master Doctor, Naritus
The only true way to know what the real price isoffer and demand.
There is always more player with a lot of money that want to be buffed than master doctor around able to...
If you charge less than 10 k for buff you are just plain stupid.. you could sell them for 20 K and still have demand...
Unless you are trying to offer buff in a place where already someone is, then you buff for 6 K or change place... offer and demand again...
Peavy wrote:Are you a master doc with bio-enhanced clothing?
Do you make your own packs?
uh-hu, Yes and Yup on all three
As for 10k min for buffs, I don't have any hard and fast rule on how much I charge for buffs.
I have two /reply macro,
One that goes
/reply 1k each, 5k for all 6, minus 1k for any buff under 1k
and
/reply 1cr per pt, upto 2k per stat, 10k max on all 6
and I do use them often. My regulars know the price so they don't even ask.
But if I see a newbie in bewbie cloth killing rats outside city, I drop them health and action for free or if they ask me for buff as I run by, then whatever they wanna tip me.
but if you are spamming for buff, or if I have you on my list (trust me, ALL doctors have a list) then you are not getting one for less than 10k.
If you wanna get a feel for it, then I'll say that YES doctors buffs are easily WORTH 10k buff ESPECIALLY if they make their own pack.
Can we charge less? Sure can. We can charge 3k or whatever we dang feel like.
If docs in my server wanna get together and raise the price on minimun to 10k, then sure I'll go with that, meaning I will ask for 10k more often than not, but that doesn't mean I will always charge 10k min period! cause I still like to use my own dang descrition thank you very much. So I'll still give free buffs and I'll still charge 5k and I'll still charge 500cr for action buff to entertaiers in cantina.
It just mean you better not be strutting down the theed spaceport fully decked out in composit riding a swoop and expect a cheap buff.
Heck you should be flattered. No one wanna ripoff people on wellfare. If they charge you that much, it just mean they think you have it together and can afford a higher fee.
Or you been really annoying in the past.
One of the two.
Or it can also mean he just got to his harvester and it has stopped after 1hr since your last check up and you just blew 10k worth a maintance down the drain.
Yup. just that three.
Oh wait, it can also mean...
well nevermind, chances are you can take it as compliment. Yup, sure thing. Complement for sure.
"I can't own a large house because I'd never have enough lots left..."
WHAAAAAAAA!
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I hear you guys talking big and yes I know we're talking diff servers here.. Ahazi is big so Im sure there are greedy peeps like you here too. I never see the 10k a set anywhere but like Tusken Fort and such.. and there I dont really have a problem with Docs chargin for a service.
My BIGGEST complaint is the fact that I may charge a hell of a lot less and 99% of the time do better and more consistent buffs... this does not mean that another master Doc needs to come over and cuss me out in /tells because hes greedy. I may have voiced my opinion in here but I dont stand next to a money grubber and say it. I am not that mean sheesh...
I get told on a regular basis that I HAVE to charge X ammount for buffs because some group of greedy people said so.. its sillyand I wanted to make sure I got my point across that your customers dont want you for 10k a set. Communists...
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" .... I charge 10k and they are lining up for me..."
Where? not near me your not...
"... Coronet Starport is the Kmart of blah blah.."
Well on Ahazi its a serious place of business and anyone that tries to tell ya different is just angry cuz they got burned there...
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Bottom line
If you dont like buffing for less than 10k dont... infact dont buff at all and do your part to reduce spam. For the rest of us don't feel like you can bring some hate down on me and mine cuz its cheaper.
purplebooks wrote:do your part to reduce spam.
Hmm not sure here, but most of the time I'm getting /tells for buffs. I RARELY spam that I am buffing unless that is what I set out to do.
We provide a **edit** good service. I charge 10k cos I use the absolute Best resources available to me. I charge 10k cos I'm a **edit** good doctor and have made it MY Business to be one of the best. You want the best you pay the price. If you don't want to, fine by me. But saying we're greedy is way off base. For the most part, many of the Docs who post here regularly are DEDICATED doctors. Not all of us are Holo-grinders.
We're Doctors because we enjoy it. There are some who take Doctor to buff themselves, some to take care of there groups/PAs and of course there are some to make money. I don't think that is a fault in any way. So you disagree with how much to charge for buffs. I don't think that is a reason to come here angry and insult us. You're a doctor too and one doctor's bad behavior reflects on us all.
i hope you realise that at 50 packs per crate and 30 uses per pack, they're making 7.5 million charging 5k and 15 million net gross at 10k per set of buffs. so paying a million per crate is actually a great price.
TheGrifted1 wrote:
As for buying pricse, I've heard of people paying 6 mill for 1 crate of 50 for each stat (1 mill per crate) I've been charging 10k for a set for a while and no real problems. I also have people who pay more than the 10k. One guy on my server boards even tried to say my buffs were over priced LOL but HE was the one taking 3 shuttle rides to get them!
Just be sure that you pay your expenses with the money you make...
A lot of people don't make back what they spent on resources (power, harversters, maintenance, flat-out resource purchace, whatever).
Too many times have I talked to a medical player, with a stack of money in their hands, from healing or buffing... who go "Wow, that's a lot of cash." But, when they got to make another batch of meds, the money ios not enough to make the same amount of supples (the first batch was usually gathered over a long period of time) that they just used.
Beware of discounting low buffs with high level packs. They cost just as much to make as a good random roll. Plus, you are devaluing lower level doc buffs and making it harder for the non-masters to afford to be masters.
Setting the expectation on ALL buffs to be 2500 for players, is part of the problem.
YOU all, as doctors, should also be defending all levels of buffs. Every time you complain someone is rude about getting less then 2k buffs, it is an expectation and opinionthat doctors have enforced, and encouraged through subjective pricing plans based on arbitrary "good buff" numbers.
-T