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Thread: Question: How would you handle this?

Raissa_
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:08 pm
#14

in the link 2 screeny.. it says:


longshot tells you 'you did not state anywhere that it (the buffs) was for the time taken you just said the buffs.'



Umm, the guy asked how much for a buff, Cyto said 50k. Enough said. He doesn't have to state what the 50k includes, time, bivoli, med clothes, buffpacks etc... damn if we docs did that we'd be here all day just justifying ourselves.


The buff was 50k (which is cheap in my opinion for comming from the bottom of the geo caves). no need to ask what the 50k is for.





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aradz
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:37 pm
#15





LongbowUK85 wrote:

I never said it was too much for a buff i said i could not afford it since i would be spending my time grinding xp at the geo cave.









LongbowUK85 wrote:

i was not rude to him i did not swear and i did not complain i made a mistake by misreading and then said i couldn't afford to pay that much for the buffs





I can't even begin to explain at this point. I'll let you do it. Also, you totally missed the point I was making in number 4. You'll never understand, and I have no idea how to explain it so you'd understand.I find that very sad.




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LongbowUK85
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:42 pm
#16






Raissa_ wrote:

in the link 2 screeny.. it says:


longshot tells you 'you did not state anywhere that it (the buffs) was for the time taken you just said the buffs.'



Umm, the guy asked how much for a buff, Cyto said 50k. Enough said. He doesn't have to state what the 50k includes, time, bivoli, med clothes, buffpacks etc... damn if we docs did that we'd be here all day just justifying ourselves.


Yes but what Longshot ment was he did not tell me (longbow) that he took the 5k for the travel time from the bottom of the geo to the top of the geo.


He can not take money of somone and not explain why.



The buff was 50k (which is cheap in my opinion for comming from the bottom of the geo caves). no need to ask what the 50k is for.


Im sorry but 50k is alot of money to me i miss read what he typed and couldnt afford it the doctor walked off and took my credits the 5k that i initaly tiped him. You can't go and do this without saying what he was taking the money for. its rude and its stealing i am not a bad person but everyone here treats me as if i am i am i made a mistake and lost 5k as a result. Its not about the money its the principle of the matter that this doctor thought he could go around taking money and not buffing even if i did get the price wrong he should of just tiped the 5k back unless he is that desperate for it.











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LongbowUK85
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:47 pm
#17






aradz wrote:





LongbowUK85 wrote:

I never said it was too much for a buff i said i could not afford it since i would be spending my time grinding xp at the geo cave.









LongbowUK85 wrote:

i was not rude to him i did not swear and i did not complain i made a mistake by misreading and then said i couldn't afford to pay that much for the buffs





I can't even begin to explain at this point. I'll let you do it. Also, you totally missed the point I was making in number 4. You'll never understand, and I have no idea how to explain it so you'd understand.I find that very sad.







I understood your point but you are going off the subject and suggesting i was rude to the doctor. i am a doctor myself i understand the profesion its just a game the buffs on kett cos 18k a pac less than thats 11 buffs and you are paid for i just don't get when you people moan about money when you can buff for another 20 times and make 200k profit.




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stromain
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:38 pm
#18

I no longer do public buffs doe to that kind of thing, and I never ever turn on my doc tag. I would have done the same thing to him.
NiViK
Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:56 pm
#19

OMG longbow....

what server are you on.



Ill make a char on it and give you 5k for your inconvience.



You are either extremely naive or a liar to think a doc would go from the bottom of the cave to the top and buff you for 5k. That is just plain dumb. To top it off, calling your guildies and having them harrass the doc in question is beyond lame.



I have entire guilds on my do not buff list...and if I was on your server I would probally add your to it as well.





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glorydragon
Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:22 pm
#20



aradz wrote:


LongbowUK85 wrote:
I was this so called customer, i admit i miss read i checked the logs as soon as he said "you missed a zero" i thought he said 5k, i'm sorry i'm not gonan pay 50k for a buff i just can't afford it.
So he walked off and kept the money added me to ingnore and said nothing. You can not just go around stealing money of people because i made a mistake.
If he had said to me somthing like "oh i think its fair i keep this 5k since i came all the way up from the bottom of the geo cave i might of said fine
My alt is a doctor so i get people like this somtimes but i never take money off them for "time"
But i never said it was cytos fault in anyway i just simple said "ouch i thought it was abit a cheap" and he left with my 5k

Message Edited by LongbowUK85 on 09-06-2004 09:25 PM



As a doc who has seen far too much of this kind of thing, let me just make a couple quick points.

1 - 50k is NOT too much for a buff. There are countless posts here on exactly what you can do in god mode for 3 hours. Even an elite novice can sit on dant and pull 15k missions and run them like nothing. 5 missions, money made back, at least 2 hours left on your buffs.

2 - This person was at the Geo Caves. This area is notorious, across all servers, for being pricy. First, you're on hard content, the geo caves are not for the feint of heart. 2nd, you're in the wild, and a very dangerous area. 3rd the doc is trying to be helpful.

3 - This entire matter, at it's very heart, is over 5k credits. If that means that much to you, you should NOT be at the geo caves, you should be on naboo, corellia, or tatooine, or possibly dant. In fact, you should be anywhere but the geo caves, deathwatch bunker, 'vette, or any other of the top-end content. These areas require the skill from experience, as well as the resources to prepare and back up your actions. While gathering any of that, you will pick up a few mil credits along the way, and 5k won't mean much anymore.

4 - Right or wrong, what you have put this doc through is why a lot of us no longer buff the public, keep our helper tags up, or generally enjoy the part of the game we really did like. I'm in that boat. I love to help, I love to take a group of new players to mid -ranged content for the first time, I love to just sit and chat in the med center while I heal people, I love every aspect of playing a support class! But constant complaints, demands (not requests) for my time, followed by some of the rudest language I've ever herd in my life because my help "isn't good enough" have totally ruined that part of the game for me... and I dare say this doc too.

*gets off soapbox*

I'm done. Sorry to take your time.




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SlowNStoopid
Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:05 pm
#21








LongbowUK85 wrote:


I understood your point but you are going off the subject and suggesting i was rude to the doctor. i am a doctor myself i understand the profesion its just a game the buffs on kett cos 18k a pac less than thats 11 buffs and you are paid for i just don't get when you people moan about money when you can buff for another 20 times and make 200k profit.

Does it matter that you can get your butt to Dantooine and grind 20 Janta missions for 600k with only a fraction of the doc's costs and efforts? No? So does itmatter how mucha buffpackcosts onbria, tempest, or wherever? Simple. NO. Moaning? Yes, it's annoying to hear people moan about 5k after making someone else go through something worth more thanthat and shaft them even when it's their own mistake.


If you were another ignorant combat monkey shooting his mouth off on the wrong forum, people would be a little more tolerant towards you. But you chose to harp on the fact that you are a doctor yourself and yetdisplay such astounding ignorance. Quit while you are ahead, before you lose whatever little sympathy is left for you.





MoogleDee
Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:24 pm
#22

Sympathy? Not from me anyway.


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Rafka
Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:33 pm
#23


I was getting pissed off just by reading the screenies

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sprognak
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:42 am
#24



LongbowUK85 wrote:


soulfringe wrote:
Longbow, I hate saying this to other people, but you and your friend, are both incredibly dense . You keep claiming he stole your 5k, but in fact, you wired it to his bank, you gave it to him, you can't just hand me a $5 dollar bill and expect me to give it back to you, once you put it in my hand, it became mine. Also, **edit**, He comes running down from his much coveted gameplay time at the bottom of geocaves, to come and buff you, and suddenly you say "never mind, thats to much". YOU are the badguy, YOU were the one who misread, it is YOU who screwed over another player, not him! He was in the right, and you were in the wrong, and everyone here seems to think so as well! Not only is Cytos entitled to the 5k, but should also recive a public form of apology for the blasphemy you have spread on his good name.


1. I did not know he was at the bottom of the geo cave because i could not walk in i would of been attacked.

2. I tiped him the 5k on the agreement of a buff does this mean i have the right to stand in coronet saying 10k for buffs wait till the person tips then not give buffs?

3. I only said it too much because i thought he put 5k

4. And he can keep the 5k i really don't care i only had ago at him because he thought he was right to steal it for me.

5. and what blasphemy all ive said about him is he took 5k off me which was not the price of the buff fine but he should of returned themoney and i would of never been having this argument.

You are the dense one mate for not reading the previous posts.

Alot of people here are saying i am wrong for making him come from the bottom of the geo cave. I did not know he was at the bottom of the cave. he was less than a 100m from the entrance to me i miss read i made a mistake i can't afford to pay 50k andi don't wanna spend a few hours on dant getting money. Because your all suggesting this and all i wanted was to kill things at the geo for loot nothing more.


Message Edited by LongbowUK85 on 09-07-2004 08:59 AM

Message Edited by LongbowUK85 on 09-07-2004 09:02 AM





Considering your opening line to him was 'Are you near the Geo lab' Longbow, I think your arguement is flawed. Whether he was at the bottom or flying with a jetpack in the clouds, he said a price and YOU misread. Simple as that. He spent time trying to get to you - doesn't matter where from. He came away from what he was doing to buff YOU for an agreed price.

You ballsed up, you made the error, you misread. Irrespective of everything else. Lets say you call a plumber out to your house and say "how much for callout" he says "£50" and you agree. The plumber arrives and you hand him a fiver - whaddya think is going to happen? I'll tell you what, the said plumber is going to hit you on the head with a monkeywrench for wasting his time. Saying "Ohhh I didn't hear you properly and thought you said £5" isn't going to help the situation either. You'll just get another lump on the head from that monkey wrench for being an ignoramous.

There's an expression we have here in the UK for people like you who waste others time, don't listen or read the agreements properly and then go spouting off about it... One word sums it up.

Nob.




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Shil
Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:33 am
#25

I think you handled it perfectly. In future maybe it's easier not to offer your/our services in remote places if it means putting yourself out.


Hehe..the 'are you smoking' bit was genious.



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SlowNStoopid
Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:21 am
#26






LongbowUK85 wrote:

i can't afford to pay 50k andi don't wanna spend a few hours on dant getting money. Because your all suggesting this and all i wanted was to kill things at the geo for loot nothing more.


"I want to have uber loot and uber xp but I don't want to work for it and pay for the services of people that I engaged who make it possible for me to do so." ARGH. Is it just me or is this mentality getting more commonplace?


Someone pass me the monkeywrench.






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