Development Cycle Archive

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ForceDisturbance wrote:

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Worldmaker2k4 wrote:

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Bambal wrote:
should read: Number of geeks who claim they will cancel their accounts in a feeble attempt to get something to go their way.

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twiafu wrote:

Love to have todays Friday Feature be:

"Number of accounts cancelled in past 24 hours"

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Check the dates on most of the members posting here. We're year-long subscribers who've been lied to and abused as a customer base.

Shove your ridicule and pretense up your newbie ass.

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Yep. I sure hope you have played longer than your forum registration date. Otherwise, you really have no concept of what the rest of us have been through since beta 3.

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I think Bambal is just pointing out what alot of us know, and have come to accept about MMOG forums. My personal experience comes from playing Ultima Online (from launch, yes thank you for the condolences just send money...), Everquest from beta, SWG two weeks into launch (HAH! I learned that lesson!) et al.

Thefact beingthat the people that hang on the boards and have post counts into the thousands *never* represent the playerbase appropriately. Most of the posters here were beta testers, profession advocates/correspondents and have a very personal interest in the direction of the game as well as a love of public discussion ala forums, and I totally respect that. But when considering the complete subcribing base, we are a very low portion of the playerbase. Do you really think the 7k+ respondents to the recent Known/Mysterious forum questionnaire is a good sample of everyone that has an acctive account or is playing?? Heck, I don't gamble but I'd wager some of these new posters to the forums are newbs who were motivated by guildmates and friends in-game to create accounts in order to increase the post count and volume. In Everquest for instance, when some of the earliest nerf's were unleashed onto the community, the backlash would have made this thread pale in comparison. You would have thought with a March or whatever launch EQ had in 99, that it would not have lived until the end of the year with all of the people canceling acccounts. And guess what? Of all the threatened cancellations, EQ continued to thrive and to this day is probably one of the most subscribed to MMORPG's in existence.

Heck, I talk to guildmates that never knew there were forums in the first place and are too busy playing to check them out anyway.

At the very least, these boards are a chance for us all to get our opinions out and vent a little (or a lot as in the case of this thread) and rub shoulders with the people working in the 'trenches' of a particular game.

I'm sorry so many are disappointed enough and feel ripped off bad enough to actually cancel accounts. I mean, look at my professions since last summer, Master BH, Pistoleer, and picked up Master CH a month or so back just because I wanted to try it out. If anyone has something to gripe about I'd certainly be entitled by the standards set thus far by other veteran account holders.

I, for one, am having a blast still and wish youfolks could be too.

Ah well, I hope it works out for everyone even if it means trying other stuff for awhile - may the force be with you!

Message Edited by Ewoksean on 07-16-2004 12:58 PM

First of all, I'd like to point out I agree with all of you complaining, I haven't been playing SWG as long as any of you, but I've been playing planetside since before it shipped retail, we were fed the same lies for, I'm going to say 10 months, after they had released Planetside Core Combat (That expansion sucked big time, you should read the feedback for that, and that took priority over how horifically unbalanced the game was). It didn't matter what they did, we could whine, we could even use figures to back everything up so even a 2 year old would understand what to do, but, no, SOE drags on, thinking about their walet and ot their community. Compare ANY SOE mmog to any other company, take EVE online, ok, they've had their delays, but they delay new content which is not vital, and they adress first what the community wants or needs, for example balancing, and the team on that practically volounteer for their job, they have a smaller team yet seem more effecient.

So overall guys, unless you can find a way to make SOE realise they will loose more money doing this than they gain, they aren't changing their minds.

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andy7264 wrote:

being a jedi isn't really a big part of the star wars experience in this part of the time line, the gcw is and generally ranged combat

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I agree. If jedi was a huge part of the star wars experience, we wouldn't be in this time line of the SW universe but rather back when the Jedi Council still existed prior to or during the clone wars.

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Trobon18 wrote:

My suggestion is this. Don't give them what they want. If you believe that the man (Not TH, hes a good guy and only a messenger) wants money. If you believe that's why JTL is coming first. Then don't buy JTL until the Combat Balance is DONE. Start a petition thread saying so too. I would be more than willing to sign it and do it. I do want to go to space but I can wait until we get what we need over what we want.

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Amen! I will NOT buy JTL until the combat balance is done!

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supa187 wrote:

I see TH is already making threads on his changes while we wait for the revamp.

So I guess that means they are sticking to their IDIOTIC decision.Woohooo

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Yeah, I daresay that the tree we're all barking up has been dead, chopped down, burned, fed into the chipper, and recycled into paper which will be used in an instruction manual on how NOT to manage game development.