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Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Swor
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:05 am
#1184

i believe the new grind is only around 150-170 MILLION XP


have fun 900K at a time



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microunityexclusive
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:08 am
#1185


All I can say is you developers really screwed up this time. For the post patch 9 unlockers you should have given them their jedi and for every one else give them access to the village or make other npc besides the ones on dathomir give FS quest. Though, you developers and sony shouldn't get your customers mad right now no one is happy not the grinders, jedi, PvPers, RL players, or casual players with competition around the corner WOW or Matrix Online. In addition. you want to create a good impression with JTL and this is not helping you sell more boxes it will probably do the opposite.




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Rorym
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:09 am
#1186

hmmmm im not to sure if im right but when you completethe quest for daggerin or whatever you unlock a whole branch of FS skills 4 POINTS Melee speed line i believe....




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Gortz
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:13 am
#1187

I read probably to about page 3 before i got the impression that every post is saying one thing.....


"i want a jedi"...."i did this many professions"...."why do they go first" etc....


Geez people stop moaning.


Sound like a bunch of school kids.


If this village works then every server its gonna be jedi city, to me if this happens im off.


Cant stand the thought of loads of jedi all running about like you lot sound, saying stuff like I ownz y00 etc....


Sad.



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Agrakalla
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:22 am
#1188

well i have been waiting for 14 hours straight now,
i think im gonna give up waiting
btw im to fast normally to get catched up by an old guy



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Xsirh
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:25 am
#1189






Marick4 wrote:

Everyone please repeat after me:" THIS IS JUST A GAME" For those of you who took days off from your real life world and now are crying foul because you weren't handed the golden gooseon a silver platter that is just stupid on your part.


So what if you didn't get a warning 2 days before the release. If you had you would be whining that you should have gotten a notice five days before the release. It has been common knowledge that Pub 10 would go live by the end of August. Guess what, its the end of August and the system has gone live.


For those of you now complaining that you didn't hologrind profs before because you wanted to stick with your character concepts, great! But, that meant you didn't want to do what it took at the time to be a jedi but now you just want it handed to you for free because you've been playing the game the longest?


I commend SOE and the devs for trying. No, it will not please anyone, but then what changes would have? The exisiting jedi wanted something nearly impossible so few could join them. The jedi want-to-bes want it something they can do in a weekend. So what is the compromise? Answer: Pub 10. Deal with it people, this is the system. So what if you have to wait weeks? Is your whole game experience based around becoming a jedi? What do you plan on after getting there? If you can't enjoy playing the game for weeks without being a jedi, what are you going to enjoy for weeks doing after you become a jedi?


People, this is a game. It is only a game. Yes, we do pay money to play the game, but guess what, if it upsets you so much then stop paying and stop playing. Find another game. The fact is this is an evolving game system, guaranteed to always upset a segment of the playing population as it does grow and change. Cursing out the devs because they didn't design it around making you a jedi first is just stupid. No matter how the system was going to be changed, it was going to benefit certain groups more than others. This is a no win situation for any game.


One last time: THIS IS JUST A GAME.


To Thunderheart and all the devs, great job on making the hard decisions.





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Marick4, you are completely right! THIS IS JUST A GAME.

I have been reading this thread for quite awhile, and all I see is flaming, and threatening to quit the game. If this one subject has gotten you so worked up, why don't you just post a suggestion,
and have all of your friends and guild mates do the same. Give the Devs some ideas without insulting them!

TH, this system is widely unsupported, as you can see, but, personally, I could wait as long as needed for a Jedi. I have a character on Ahazi that I want to become a Jedi, and if I need to wait, I have a character on Radiant that needs some attention. But, still, please consider the suggestions put forward by these concerned players.




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AltharXXX
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:25 am
#1190



I just wanted to point this out...



TH wrote :





The old man will visit you when you have completed the requirements of the new path to becoming a Jedi.While this new path is still a secret, it is no where near as daunting as the holo-professions method.We have made additional provisions for those that worked partially through the old system.Here is how you will be allocated a visit based on the old system:



You will be granted access to the village…



Automatically qualify


Group 1


Group 2


Group 3


Group 4











[damn lithium]...


TH someone lied to you. 'automatically' does not mean 'after doing badge requirements'... and 'badge requirements' was not what was advertised to post 9.0 unlockers.


A friend told me I pay $15 month so SoE can buy high speed equipment and keep things running and develop the game. The solution for this mess isn't to gate the village like this - it's to UPGRADE THE SERVER. It's friggin HORRIBLE how laggy dantooine and dathomir can be already. If you want to gate it -- restrict travel to dathomir (when ticket is used say - sorry due to imperial directive 666 you cannot travel to dathomir at this time) and have imperial patrols ARREST and deport people who have been there too long. I'd make an NPC on Lok at the imperial base issue the damn dathomir permits and make it so only 1000 permits can be active. expire them, etc... Take out the NON CONTENT time sink you put in and put something in that extends the story.... Grrr... I'd guess it's to late to fix the ROOT CAUSE (equipment and programmer arrogance) ... Also what the #e$# are you guys doing with an event team? It's a waste of money I'm sure. I highly doubt more than 1% of us get to enjoy any event team product...








Message Edited by AltharXXX on 09-01-2004 02:30 AM



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status: retired

Would you care to test out a 400 year old sword to see if it's decayed to condition 0? All the prior testers have no comment. Perhaps a gun which was used in WW I and still fires with high accuracy upto 1km?

If that doesn't get you, then start reading current military specifications for combat equipment.
Naspe
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:30 am
#1191

Hi all,

Got some questions. Plz let me understand. After the server shutdown i logged in, /check an i was a sourge. So i went to Nym. Made the ThemePark, /check, i'm an inner glow now. Does it means that i used the new method to unlock the Force right? How long should i wait for a visit by the old man?


I mastered 1 profession from the holocube... is it usefull?


And a little question... Is the Old Man an NPC? Or a Player? If it is an NPC... If he comes when i'm AFK? Or while i'm kicking some Super Battle Droid's ass?


Plz try to let me understand


Many thanx.


Bye bye.



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Xyvyon
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:32 am
#1192


1337 Posts Devs will need a lot of coffe today !




P:S But i dont think they care








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DayWalkerRori
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:35 am
#1193

Ok, let me get this right....


I didnt open no Holos but, I Mastered 8 profession...Might have hit one or maybe not..


I wasnt glowing when i logged in this morning but, i soon was aftercompleting Reb theme park..


Now, Im going to have to set for Weeks????? waiting for my crack at the village


Sounds to me its a stupid way to make a Time Sink....


Some big patch...1st youll wanted Jedi rare, then youll wanted more Jedi, then youll wanted to make Jedi less rare cause of a fun factor, now after changing the system you wana make us wait days/weeks standing inline likesome damn ride at disneyland??? I would love to see some of the IQs of the people working in that place...shezzzzzz
Jutifulmars
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:35 am
#1194

I waited to post so my anger would fade, and i could be somewhat legible.I spent 12hrs in game not afk traveling to 4 diffrentplanets and running across them with no speeder. and also camping. no visit. Im a post 9 unlocker. To be honest things like this would not be near as bad if you told us BEFORE HAND. say some thing like hey guys sorry about this but when we go live it will be a few days before you can actualy do the villiage. From what ive read a significant number of people took time out of there lives planing on working on this today and where unable to...... im one of those people. My anger has faded. Though I know after this I will be moving on from this game as soon as wow is out. this publish has been the final straw. Oh and you cant say this time that the happy players are just playing the game and only the unhappy players are complaining....... OMG every cantina every SP every where I here spatial talk critizing this publish its all over. My entire friend list I heard 10 negative comments on this publish for every 1 positive. You guys need to get your act together COMMUNICATE talk to us tell us in advance things like it wont be the same as TC with the 30min -1hr wait it will actualy be a few days or weeks even after you qualify. or hell if you dont want to talk to us throw some SERIOUS server power behind it.
TorAurelio
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:37 am
#1195


ok, here i am.... my english is not very good, but i'll try to say something


i am very ashamed of you S.O.E. i can understand how you can do this to ppl how has been grinding the proffessions and now you dont give 'em the jedi. i can't understand it


therefore, those of you have to de middle path to get the jedi about grinding professions, may be recompensed with the half way of the village or the equivvalent number os FS skill boxes.....


i dont understand why this ppl have to wait the visit of the OLDMAN..


You SOE and YOU lucasart, too, are going to get a surprise, when many ppl you have suscribed since a long time ago, will not pay

any more, because you haven't done the correct things


Please take the opinion of the players and the game will be more efficient and very funnier too


there is ppl who isnt agree with me, ok, i understand, but i think in ppl who has been grinding profession to get the JEDI, and now this happyness when they unlock has fallen down....


Please take a DEEP BREATH, and listen to the players.......the new system i like for those who has not been grinding professions


I wish you read this message and take a good decision for all player (ONLY PLAYERS) not a minority and not a mayority .



thank for all
thegreyman
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:38 am
#1196



...as if millions of voices suddenly cried out...in anger and frustration....



Thunderheart, I have two quick questions for you:



1. How much credit would one get for 26 professions, plus all the POI, hero, warren, and themepark badges...


...26 professions is a lot of work, sometimes it was moreboring than accounting, and the majority of us hologrinders are in and around this figure. If we learn that we are in group 3 because because the number of silent professions went from one to four...well...lets just say world of warcraft is very close to becoming a reality. This is not a threat, but a reality. Most of us want a jedi character, but our patience is running thin. Furthermore, it is more than a little upsetting to learn that you grant full padawan topeople who unlocked with fewer professions and badges, not because they played more, but because they guessed correctly.



2. How do we learn when we can expect a visit from the old man?


...I spent 6 hours playing today, and guess how much of that time was spent staring at my radar and overhead map... Am i foolish to spend this much time doing almost nothing for fear of missing the visit from the old man? Perhaps...but I had hope that something, anything,would happen... Am i going to do this for up to three weeks straight? I'd rather shave with a cheese grater.



Thats it, TH...thats all most of us want to know...how much credit do we get and when will it happen.


Firm answers please, no vagarities.


Thank you.



PS: You will eventually havemore jedi running around your game than you know what to do with.Delaying this by a few weeksdoes not change the inevitable, it only upsets your clients. Accept it and prepare with new content. Word of mouth is the best form of advertising known to marketing. Enraging your longest paying customers creates the negative word of mouth: a deathblow to business.





First they came for the Jedi and I did not speak out because I was not a Jedi.
Then they came for the Bounty Hunters and I did not speak out because I was not a Bounty Hunter.
Then they came for the crafters and I did not speak out because I was not a crafter.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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