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Thread: Publish 10 Feedback: Jedi Revamp Part 2, The Jedi Trials

ZabrackDimo
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:53 pm
#105






Khelyyk wrote:

You want feedback TH? So de we!!

Well, here is my feedback...and guess what I want feedback on these questions:


(Situation: You feel an inner glow. The Force is with you. Playing since the beginning as a gimped wookiee who is grateful to have armor after being pwned for a year! I obviously have no clue how many hidden professions I mastered (if any) so how can I now know which group I fall into)


How do you know if you needed to master 5 vs. 8 professions?

If you didn't unlock by X date did you need 8?

If your character was created after X date did you need 8?

Was it something else?

How do you consider that fair and balanced?


How do you think you will continue to earn my money if you keep this up?





Yeah, this is kinda pissing me off too. I started playing about 3 weeks after launch. Then we're told 4 holo and a silent to unlock but it actually turns out that if you weren't one of the first to unlock you had to find up to 3 more silents to open the slot? What kind of bs it this that you tell how to unlock but change it and don't admit the changes until you change it again? How many players is this delay in visits for the unlockers and close to unlockers gonna cost?


Why couldn'tdevs have been honest and said "hey, even if you unlocked, all that stuff we said about it happening when pub 10 goes live, well, we were just kidding. Sorry, we aren't really very funny people" At least that might have gotten you a few smiles instead of a generally unhappy player base. From the posts I'm reading, about the only people who are happy here are the people who never mastered more than one or two skills. Those of us who worked at unlocking, mastering pointless skills just to get them mastered in the hope of unlocking so we could go back and do the skills we actually enjoyed were being screwed all along as you secretly upped the number of skills we were forced to learn.


pc32435
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:55 pm
#106

i unlocked during publish 9 mine keeps saying

"you feel a inner glow. the force is with you"

will i get the old man talking to me? i have done 25 professions

skoimich



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romeoisdead
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:56 pm
#107






Jaida-Chilastra wrote:

Let me say it again for you poor folks who didnt understand the way the devs lied to us. You have to break it down.



If you have under 30 professions mastered, chances are it can be over a week before the old man see's you. Yes, 1 week. If you have done maybe 1 holo profession, it can be MUCH longer. Just because you are glowy DOES NOT mean the old man will see you in 1-3 days. THAT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY GOT THE UNLOCK MESSAGE AND PEOPLE WITH 1 HOLOPROFESSION REMAINING. Read the TH's responses and you will see that. Do not believe the false words that people are giving you that did not read what was posted. Sorry, but its not your fault. The devs are limiting the village for people due to hardware issues that SHOULD NOT concern the players, because a situation like that should NEVER have arisen. Very sorry if this is not what you wish to hear, but welcome to the past year of SWG.


I repeat. Just because you are Glowy and the force is with you, does not mean old man in 1-3 days. Dont get false expectations from the devs again.





maybe im confused but TH clearly said people who enable the old man visit via the new system (IE Glowing) will get the visit in 1-3 days and not be part of the group structure. I have quoted where he said this in my prior post.


Could you please quote where he said people who are glowing under the new system will not get their visit in 1-3 days?





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Elfenwood
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:56 pm
#108

I can't believe that, i really can't believe that.


SOE promised us a Jedi after publish 10. I was grinding for 7 months to unlock. Now i unlocked withoutmy reward, A JEDI. The new systems doesnt cares me, i was grinding under the old system - so remember the promise u made.


I want my Jedi, thats all. I dont wanna do in- or exit quest or sucha **edit**. I want the same rights as for the older Jedi generation, because i was grinding under the same rules - your rules (we will speak later about your 4 secret professions - thats another nice soe story).


Again, give us our initiatewithout that intro-exit **edit**.


XoDust
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:58 pm
#109

CSr less off the overcrowding village crap its empty my freind who is a jedi is there now with 2 already jedi.



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WheeZayneIsMe
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:00 pm
#110

Jaida-Chilastra, the problem is that what you say may not be the truth. That isn't a verified interpretation of what Thunderheart said. We need him to give a direct answer that we can depend upon. No one wants to wait when nothing may come from it.



In 480 B.C. Xerxes, King of Persia, demanded that the Spartans lay down their arms. Leonides, one of the two Kings of Sparta, responded with two words, Molon labe.

"Come and get them."

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romeoisdead
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:02 pm
#111






Dampear wrote:

You need to re-read THs post, if you have grinded out 30+ professions, you will be granred access, if not you have to wait. If you have grinded ZERO professions, you have to wait until everyone else has gone through and the village isnt overcrowded.







It says in his post (and i quote)

"We have made additional provisions for those that worked partially through the old system.Here is how you will be allocated a visit based on the old system:"


"Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man."


Important parts are highlighted for your notice. if you think this is incorrect, please be so kind as to quote your source material so i may better understand where you are coming from.




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Keblin
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:02 pm
#112

So if you are "glowy', or inner glow. You people say that you will get visited in a matter of days. I think you have to have the inner glow "The Force is with You" to get a fast response time on the old man.Thats the sign that you've completedthe new system.










Keblin Blackstaff

pc32435
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:07 pm
#113

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Keblin wrote:
So if you are "glowy', or inner glow. You people say that you will get visited in a matter of days. I think you have to have the inner glow "The Force is with You" to get a fast response time on the old man.Thats the sign that you've completedthe new system.
Keblin Blackstaff



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mine says "you feel a inner glow. The force is with you"

i unlocked a few days ago does thsi mean ill get a visit i unlocked on 25.



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romeoisdead
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:09 pm
#114






Jaida-Chilastra wrote:




Alright, something to remember. There is a different system for getting holocredit, and getting glowy to be eligable to see the old man. TH posted this at some point..


**If you have… You will be granted access to the village…

No professions remaining: Automatically qualify

1 profession remaining: Automatically qualify

2 professions remaining: Group 1

3 professions remaining: Group 2

4 professions remaining: Group 3

5 professions remaining: Group 4



Since there is a large wave of players that will be going through the system, we are going to be monitoring traffic daily as players start and finish the Force Sensitive quests. When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down.
Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man.


***


That should clear it up. But i'll go ahead and explain some. Unless you already got an unlock message or when you logged into TC2 you saw that you got 5 free tree's. You're screwed until the group ahead of you is done. It does not matter if you are glowy. They are going by how close you are to jedi, not how eligable you are to see the old man. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.







highlighted a little something in your own post there.




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romeoisdead
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:11 pm
#115






pc32435 wrote:
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Keblin wrote:

So if you are "glowy', or inner glow. You people say that you will get visited in a matter of days. I think you have to have the inner glow "The Force is with You" to get a fast response time on the old man.Thats the sign that you've completedthe new system.


Keblin Blackstaff





"mine says "you feel a inner glow. The force is with you"i unlocked a few days ago does thsi mean ill get a visit i unlocked on 25.



Both of you are correct. PC you will get your visit and once you get to the village be able to train 6 skill trees enabling you to complete the exit quest as well.




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Jaida-Chilastra
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:13 pm
#116

I think i see what you are trying to point out. You're inferring that glowy acts as qualifying for the old mans visit. While TH hasnt said this directly. I really hope for everyones sake that you're right. Meh..even if TH said that was it. I still dont think I could believe a word uttered from the mouth of a dev after all this. Fool me once its your fault, fool me twice and its mine kind of thing. They have no values to speak of so I cant see it.

XeMaC
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:13 pm
#117







Would it have really been so inconvenient to inform players about the 1-3 day wait 24 hours ago TH? Would it have cost you your job to let the people know what you were going to do to them? Did no one on your staff care about the players who looked forward to today with much anticipation and called off from work/school in order to do something they have been working possibly a year for? Heartless. Cruel. Dishonest.






AGREE 100000000x



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