Development Cycle Archive

---

777jb777 wrote:

Lightsabre-resists in PSGs:

I obtained a newly-made crate of psg's. The crate shows lightsabre resists. When I retrieved a psg fromt the crate it had lightsabre resists. But after I logged and logged back on, the lightsabre resist had disappeared.

This seems like the old 'shifting-stats' PSG bug all over again.

---

Message Edited by DarkHybrid108 on 07-04-2004 08:47 PM

---

Renairdor wrote:

Ok completed my Knight trials. 'Stories' posted at

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=144207#M144207

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=145036#M145036

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=145548#M145548

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=146297#M146297

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=146301#M146301

It took me all up about 45 hours of hunting to do the Trials. That's a 'fair' amount, about a week of 'work'.

Some comments:

Jedi robes really are weak. There was no peak or gain for making it into the ranking systems. I had a TKA do some tanking for me, especially in the Acklay caves, and he was taking far less then a master LS/Master Def jedi. Seemed a little odd, but not surprising given he had armor. In PvE- Jedi do a very high amount of damage. The mobs have no 'toughness' or mitigation. With some very high quality pearls , I was doing about 3k a hit in PvP, per second. Many would consider that 'uber' , except I know Swordsmen who can do the same to most mobs. Jedi are useful in group hunting since they can hit the high armor/AR3 and high resist mobs, to complement the flame DOTs from commandos.

PvP: Combat Medics still rule PvP. It's a multi-stage problem due to:

a) 100 rated Havla allows 1 poison or disease throw/second

b) Mind buffs mean combat medics can spam spam spam poison

c) Poisons A,B,C and single and ranged can stack on a single target. With ranges outside any normal weapon - I can make standard poisons at 84m right now! Then toss them as someone closes in on me.

d)It takes 2 or 3 cures to even deal with one poison. It's a 'I win' button.

e) A single doc has not prayer to heal poisons on themselves, not to mention those in a group

f) Jedi cure poison and disease takes 2-3 tries to clear one poison, then along delay.

g) Introduction of Spider Venom made for extreme poisons that are 'one shot kills'.

h) Warcry/Warcry 2 still works even on folks with a DOT. So ... apply poison, warcry 2 = dead any char

i) Group Tef is becoming oddly common, so folks in a group send in one overt, get group tef, then use above tactic to 'instant kill' a jedi.

Lots of problems here... need some fixes.

Thunderheart, hasn't there been enough negative feedback about how over-powering poisons are?

Lightsabers, even with 4 really nice pearls, do very little damage against melee templates. My current PvP saber has a 50,47,38 and 32 pearl at -8,-8,-9 and -9 force. It was doing about 50 damage to a SINGLE melee fellow who applied a DOT poison with his lance. Admitted, he had me intimidated 2 (first try, though I'm master def....) and he was using 45% synth steak. I believe I was doing 90 dmg after the synth wore off. He was a master fencer, TKA, swordsman. A ranged user without synth or without the ability to intimidate a Jedi is quickly defeated with 300-400 point hits, but it's very rare to see a solo ranged user, or a ranged user without basic brawler. Actually, just thinking about it, almost every non-CM/Doc I know has some TKA in their template.

Ranged templates can barely touch a master lightsaber with 85% saber block. Very cool special effect, but it's crippling for BH to fight you.

Avoid incap is nice power that gives 30 secs 'invulnerability' but the force cost is really high, so it has to be used with care. Handy to run through a dungeon, or pull mobs in the corvette - but pretty easy to get yourself in trouble too.

Note: I did not have too much trouble hitting him though, even with his 1H equipped. He had no trouble KD/Dizzying me either though, even though I was master Defence. Thankapillo helped a lot in later tests.

I kept in touch with most jedi during the trials. It seems a week to complete all trials for folks playing 5 hours a night. It took me about 10 hours to find a Graul Marauder, and 10 or so for a Giant Canyon Krayt. The Giant Canyon was 'fun' though, since there is lots for a group to xp on, and Krayts drop interesting loot.

Permanent Overt makes it 'interesting' to travel. So far I don't know any light jedi, though there are plenty of active Rebel PvP guilds looking for me, so it's certainly not boring. Given that CM's can easily defeat a jedi who does not have a LOT of support, it seems a little odd whats going on with FRS experience right now, but I'll give it another week of 'playing around' to see if I'm missing something.

So, besides the 'status symbol' of being one of the first in the force ranks, it's not exactly over-powering or anything. And that's what I expected. I have not heard of any reports of 'jedi dominating PvP', but I have heard from friends that BH missions do not clear upon deathblow, allowing body camping and redeath of Jedi from a BH group.

So overall, I give this publish a 'B-' for 'Fun Factor' since it allows Jedi to have with without gaining at TEF, at the cost of a fair amount of power. Jedi have a use iin a group as a high damage dealer vs high armored foes, and probably would do really well as hybrid hunters for meat/hide. Some instances of jedi XP loss are impossible to prevent- I have a client crash just about every day - just hard client crash. And sometimes I'm fighting something and someone. Right now if you have a hard crash, it takes twice as long to login since your character does not go 'LD' until you login, cannot connect, disconnect, close client, restart client and then connect again. This can take minutes and if alone, that's a dead jedi. I would recommend a 'death buffer' of maybe up to 2 or 3 a week, then institute a XP loss on Rez after this, that incremements based on number of deaths in the week and skill level. I liked the suggestions of Skill points used x 1000 xp being the high cap to xp loss. This will become more of an issue when 'main' characters become jedi.

Jedi are being kept from towns since being 'non jedi like' and dueling in major cities gets them on BH terms, who take them out right then and there- that I think *is* fair since Jedi should not be openly running around in cities. I do like the fact I still hear of BH doing their job, and killing cocky and visible Jedi.

As to Robes.... jedi are extremely vulnerable to melee and poisons. The white padawan robes seem worse then the composite of old since you really stick out as a sore thumb. Padawans should have the option for a 'jedi like' hooded and dark robe that conceals their faces. I suppose travelling jedi can equip themselves with normal clothes, and given the lack of perks in the robes, I know a large number of jedi using BE enhanced and modded clothes over the robes. I think that's pretty wrong in concept, though I like what some jedi have dressed up as- they sometimes look more 'jedi like' then the robes, and at least 'unique'.

Well, there are my thoughts for the week. Take them as you will Hoping I was constructive...

Ren

---