Development Cycle Archive

Question:

If/When a Jedi reaches Master status, will it be possible for their name to be changed to include a "master name"? For example, a light Jedi finally gets on the Council and has reached Jedi Master, his name then changes to Master <Character's Last Name> from <Fist Name> <Last Name>. Also, if a dark Jedi finally gets on their version of a Council and reaches Master status they change their name to Lord <Last Name> from <First Name> <Last Name>.

good idea. tell the producers

i don't see them answering the questions we really want because it seams they don't care one bit, anyone up for mass Complaining directly to Lucas Arts?

TH,

I'm sure you see the way the wind is blowing with this post - but I want to speak for the players on the other side of the debate. I was overjoyed to learn that I could progress my main character (to which I have grown attached) to become a Jedi. I looked at the possibility of creating a new character with a lot of concern from a role-playing direction.

The arguements expressed above are very much valid - but if this system is reconsidered please don't go from one extreme to the other. There are players out there that would rather have their main become FS and start a new "normal" character.

That said - there is only one equitable way to handle this. The system simply must allow for either a one-time character recreation upon unlock, or allow free choice as to which slot gains the ability to become Jedi.

To me it seems an equitable trade off. If someone wants their new character to be the FS one, the main is reset tozero on the FS quests and the new character is then allowed to pick their FS skills and progress as Jedi.

This new FS character would actually be at a disadvantage relative to people that choose for their main to become Jedi. The new character would not have the existing skills to fall back on during their training to Knight - a more than fair cost for the "priviledge" of creating a totally new character (race, stats and all).

Please also bear in mind that this exact topic will come up again when JtL hits and two new races are released. Very few people will want to recreate their characters to try out the new races. It would be good idea to anticipate this and allow for a one-time-only race switch for JtL subscribers.

SWG is in for a very rocky road over the next3 publishes. The combat balance, GCW revamp and outcome of the jedi system will be a make or break point for the game. With the promise of JtL on the horizon this is as good a time as any I suppose, but if these topics are handled poorly - or worse, without the full and acknowledged input of the veteran SWG community - it has the potential to destroy the game. It happened with Anarchy Online - over the span of a weekend one patch caused half the population to quit - simply being Star Wars and SOE does not make repitition of this impossible.

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Nsaneiam wrote:

Is there any chance of our concerns actually being dealt with? Is any of this actually being passed to the devs?

What i dont want

1. Main character as Jedi

2. No unlocking Fscs between Pub9 and Pub10

Your Paying Playerbase has informed you in high percentage of what they dont want.

It isnt fair that we dont get the same privledge as the people that unlocked before us, and if you take that away from me I will take my $30 subscription fees some where else.

I would also like to know why you cant grandfather accounts who have reached a certain point on the hologrind. This would be a fair thing to do. Let the people who have made it to their silent keep goin on the system they are on. Then anyone who hasnt even started the hologrind falls under the new system. I dont understand why this cant be done, it has been used in other Mmorpgs where a system has to change but they dont want to screw everyone.

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I too do NOT want to play my main as my jedi. Had I known this was going to be the case, I would've designed my character differently. However, in beta, and after launch, the "path" was, unlock your FSS, use the second character slot as your jedi.

From an RP standpoint using your main as your jedi does fit, however, we were lead to believe something else, and even told the devs in beta that the main character should develop force sensitivity, but they refused to hear any of it. Now after all that, they've decided that "oh, the beta testers were right, we should make the main player have force sensitivity..." after they had previously said "this will never be the case, your main character will never be force sensitive" and the majority of us designed our character and playing style around that premise.

Now for the unlucky players who won't unlock, they're going to be utterly screwed come revamp. (I feel bad for the trando and wookiee jedi...no boots for jooo)...I'm really close. 8 professions left, the only thing between me is a week a few million creds, but in some unlikely event I don't unlock, and I've put all this time and effort into grinding my character this past year, I'm sorry, but I have no desire to grind a second character thru force sensitivity. I'll just quit and go play WoW. I've suffered thru the bugs, I've suffered thru being banned from the forums for pointing out SOE's shortcomings, (not once, but twice, first time for a month for proving a mod wrong, second time for for 6 months for pointing out a certain CSR's behavior was unprofessional)...I'm sorry, but I've suffered thru enough of this. If I'm forced to drop my skills to play a jedi on my main character, one that I never intended on being a jedi, I'll simply take my $15 a month and give it to a corporation who's more entitled to it. (You know, a company that actually listens to the community, instead of making knee-jerk nerfs and revamps for the sake of a vocal minority.) My $15 a month entitles me to the same ear that every other customer has, and frankly I'm tired of being ignored.

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Worthless1 wrote:

How many slots are available in each council?

There are 11 council ranks for the Light side and for the Dark side. Each rank will have a limited number of players that may earn these titles. In addition, there will be an unlimited amount of non-ranked or zero-level Force Ranked Jedi. This enables those players for PvP and the right to work their way up the Force Ranking ladder.

So a casual player wont be able to get into the council? I feel like because I have a job and a life that I wont be able to reach my fullest potenial. Its hard enough to master classes to begin with.

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you 'casual players' want it all.

wah i cant grind to unlock, plz change the system. so they do it. now you want to be part of a council that makes decisions on a daily basis, even though you arent going to be there? wow.

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Sylune_heart wrote:

In the end if you go thru with this change your gonna see we as players were right in this. As we have been right about alot of drastic knee jerk changes in this game.

Most of which you as developers had to go backwards, and change the system.

You think maybe you would have learned by now that we are not a bunch of 10 year old dopes who don't know what the hell we are talking about.

Some of us are even in the industry. I am telling ya we know what the heck we are talking about.

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I have to say, in all honesty, that I have to agree here.

ThunderHeart, perhaps it is time that development issues were brought to the community BEFORE they were taken to testing.

I am sorry to have to say this, but after playing this game for almost a year since release day, I have begun to wonder if any of the developers are actual GAMERS, or if they are all just in this for the hell of doing something that has never been done before? Honestly?

This game is chock-full of absurdities, and the minor content issues that amount to a mountain of player abuse are NOT being addressed here. Maybe it is time that the producers of this game stopped trying to beat out the retail curve and made the game bloody ENJOYABLE please!

I love this game, as I have said numerous times, and I want nothing more than to see it continue on indefinately. But, please, let us be honest here: how long do you think the community is going to hold on by their fingernails while this cloak-and-dagger development bull[self-edit] goes on?

Please, at least address these issues. As a player and a long-standing member of this community, I do not frankly care whether there are more stars in the sky or silhouettes of Star Destroyers over the planet when MY ARMOSMITH CAN CRAFT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RESOUCES. Or, perhaps, MY COMBAT CHARACTER CANNOT GET WEAPONS BECAUSE THEY COST A MILLION CREDITS AND THE LOOTS ARE A PILE OF HORSE [self-edit]!

[knock, knock, knock] Anyone home? Is anyone listening? Please?

Please stop leaving the PAYING COMMUNITY in the dark.

Thank you.

I think the Devs have lost their mind on this one. What you all have succeeded in doing is TOTALLY remove non-jedi from PvP. Nice job.