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Thread: Weekly Roundtable Discussion (Week Ending 3-22-04)

Osss10
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:21 pm
#105

Any info on if the Character Naming Policy is ever going to be enforced? It seems pretty straight forward to me, but I would guess it is getting close to 50/50 as far as names that follow the policy and names that violate the policy. Nothing takes you out of the Star Wars feeling quicker then "Itallion Stallion" or "doodoohead" or a 1000 others like thatrunning around in game. Perhaps I am the only one that thinks this should be enforced, but it does take a lot out of the RPG aspect of SWG MMORPG. My 2 cents,



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Vicmann
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:42 pm
#106

An update to, or total removal of requirements to do some of these new Tatooine quests would be very good..


Beingbuffed,and MCH, Pistols IV,grouped with 20k HAM worth of pets,with +5000 Valarian faction, I cannot get Kavas Urdano to give me the Valarian quests? She just says "The task I have seems a bit beyond your capabilities. Come back when you're a bit stronger." I can solo Mutant Rancors but I'm not tough enough? Hmmm.


Now MCH is definitely tough enough to take out the NPC's I need to kill for these quests, so what's the deal?EvenPistols IV and being buffed would be enough to take out the NPC's in these quests.And ifa group of low level players wants to they should be able to group together and get the missions should they so desire..Anyone should be able to get it if they want to do it, just give them a warning that they might not be strong enough, but definitely don't make it completely impossible to get the missions.



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Prophetiv
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:01 pm
#107


Hmm! Lets see Cyberfet for one your a moron. I said lag I didn't say the game was choppy.

Yeh and people cant always buy a new a new system . But lets see maybe its a problem with

system.


Promethia case

AMD 64FX (overclocked to 2.6 Ghz)

2 Gigs of ram 4400 corsair

2 x 36 Serial ATA WD Raptors running RAID 0

Promise SATA 150 RAID (Card is better then the one on MB)

ASUS RADEON 9800 Pro


So let me say again it lags and I am positive its not my connection. I checked.

I also have another system in my house thats just like yours. We have it in another

room I let my girlfriend use it its to slow for gaming.


I look at the network connection. Thats what I mean by LAG. I also play on a different server so

where you are may be just fine for you. What time do you play. Its alot of factors in it moron.

You think its 99% of the people harware problem. But good for you you got a new system but

from what i can tell you know nothing about computers. And you can post you Radio Shack

system all you want it doent impress anyone. So I'm certain its not a hardware problem because

I would smoke you. WHat kind of Vid card is it just some vid card with 256 megs.


P
DaQuilla
Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:27 pm
#108


After this patch I sometimes have considerable problems targeting player characters with the /command line ... usually I could type "/smile sir" ... to smile at the character "Sirbadarasda-feritade" (or whatever his name is) who was standing in front of me or even 60m away as long as he was loaded on my map ... now, even if I go through the trouble of typing the whole name "/smile Sirbadarasda-feritade" I almost always get the message "Target can't be found" ... although I'm directly in front of him ... only targeting the character with the mouse and then typing "/smile" works at the moment




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allstar
Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:53 am
#109

regarding afk looting.


Note: I was found to be innocent of all charges.


Quite simply. The single most prominent feature of this debate is now, entrapment.


One. Varying degrees of policy contravene.


To go afk for 30mins, return briefly then go afk again, is on a varying degree, the same as creating a macro, that requires you to check not every half an hour but once every two hours (for example). Which is to a varying degree the same, as creating a 3rd party program, so instead of checking once every two hours you are required to check once everytwo days.


Now concider the other two factors.


A. One box five people, the box is empty all the time, except once every 30mins, for several seconds.


Consider a persons options at this point.

1.They can walk away

2.They can attempt to get the loot.

There are no other options than that, there isn't a third option or a fourth, there is no, ah but you can do this instead option.


B. Between the 30minutes, what are you asking of people? Do you want them to atrophy sitting at their PC? "You must be seated throughout your SWG play session".."You must talk outloud once every five minutes".


Now concidering the options, I feel the most prominent discussion is, Does the system SOE have created actually entrap a human individual by it's own rules and the actual dynamics of the system itself.

We all know if the best loot spawned in gubbas, we would hunt gubbas. Or if it were in krayts we would hunt krayts. Does your system allow for human nature, or does it ask we forego human nature? And at which point, do you decide, wether the games policies are less important than a human individuals rights.

I actually feel you are overstepping your limit. This is entertainment, and If Im not harming others, who are you to tell me how to enjoy myself or how to play a game.Yet I am policed. Not only do you punish people who create new improved systems, due to the fact your own is not working.But you refuse to accept that it is your very own system that entraps people into breaking your own policies.


Enjoy.








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Kane_Firestalker
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:31 pm
#110

TH: you guys might wantto do the friday feature tomorrow on the new unlocking process for Jedi. What was said today in the DEV chat has everyone in an uproar. I myself would like some clarification also. I am on profession #24, and will continue to grind to unlock if I dont have the option of unlocking a new slot. Forcing me to use my Jedi on my main is not going to make me even want to unlock Please some clarification.



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Naufragus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:58 pm
#111






IvyMC wrote:

Watch out what you say about or to the developers! Even if you have a valid point, if they don't like it or if it hits too close to home, they will delete it between one breath and the next! I've seen it again just last night!!! Then this morning the message was gone, gone, gone from the publish forum! A guy there was making absolutely dead-on valid points about this recent publish and how it affects BE and this morning when I looked, it was deleted. One person happened to take a section of it for his own reply to it, but that is all that remains.


Don't tell the developers what's wrong. They won't listen if it means they have to admit they are not doing it right. I'm getting fed up myself with the way each profession is being tweaked. Pretty soon, none of the special abilities that exist now, will be particular to each profession. Andlately, Jedi's are going around boasting 200+ kills of Bounty Hunters! What is special about a BH anymore?? They are taking the fun out of each profession just as soon as it gets interesting to play it!


I really love most of the game play, but I play my game in the cantinas. I hear alot of talk about what would be good for this game and about what is wrong with it. I have some gripes of my own about the Entertainer professions. But, people are getting fed up. Maybe they need to sneak in a developer (like they haven't already) to play for real and get the honest to goodness truth about what the game is really like - and make them pay a subscription fee to play it, too!!


SOE needs to start listening to the players if they don't want anymore subscribers bagging the game. (And I'm taking a screen shot of this after I submit it, just to make sure at least I know I submitted it and it was here for however long)









there also appears to be a forum nerf as well


the SOE forum flunkies have one starred everything and additional ratings dont seem to bring them up...


they picked the wrong publish to make the forums public...

Naufragus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:06 pm
#112






Vicmann wrote:

An update to, or total removal of requirements to do some of these new Tatooine quests would be very good..


Beingbuffed,and MCH, Pistols IV,grouped with 20k HAM worth of pets,with +5000 Valarian faction, I cannot get Kavas Urdano to give me the Valarian quests? She just says "The task I have seems a bit beyond your capabilities. Come back when you're a bit stronger." I can solo Mutant Rancors but I'm not tough enough? Hmmm.


Now MCH is definitely tough enough to take out the NPC's I need to kill for these quests, so what's the deal?EvenPistols IV and being buffed would be enough to take out the NPC's in these quests.And ifa group of low level players wants to they should be able to group together and get the missions should they so desire..Anyone should be able to get it if they want to do it, just give them a warning that they might not be strong enough, but definitely don't make it completely impossible to get the missions.







i get the same thing so annoying...did them 9 months ago


ironically, some of her missions spawned near another one i was on when i was trying to get some jabba faction...took like 15 secs to take out the target


it is another feature no one asked for that was added...there where some people whining that this and that mission was too hard..but we all get screwed because the just couldnt figure out that maybe it was to hard and they should move on.


Cant do those but the imperial coordinator will send me to Endor to take out 5 Jabba assassins..go figure


I have also noticed i cant get any decent faction missions anymore...even grouped with a pet all i can get are 600 credit lowbie missions.


Nivekious
Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:13 am
#113

hi, i was just wondering why all the servers (except the europian ones) have been brought down every day thiis week at 4 am PST, even though it isn't in the scheduled down time. thanks



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Kadrid
Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:33 am
#114

When will the quests for the Corellian Corvette by up ?


Would be really nice to know. I've searched the forums for this issue but i have not found anything yet.







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WebPirate1
Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:23 am
#115

Just love these guys who say lag is a computer issue. Ive got 3.0 gig 2500.00 mac daddy gaming system. Love it. Have blown threw starports and missions while my friends were held up with lag. But lately, Ive started getting lag in starports only. Especially if pets, vehicles, are near the travel ticket droid. I would love for in building restrictions on pets, even if its just at starports. Inside Coronet Starport yesterday Master CHs' had a kimo lizard, two graul maulers, and more out, and my lag got so bad it felt like a dial up connection, instead of the 40.00 a month near T-1 speed cable warpdrive connection I have.


Also, your geo lab spawn rates are bugged again. Three trips there yesterday. Saw up to 35 mercs surround me. On another trip 8 kwis surrounded me. Kill the acklay solo on a regular basis, but can't now because even if I fight my way to freedom, my charactar won't stop fighting so I can meditate. Can't talk to scientest either. Please fix the mass cluster spawns. Also saw 5 crazed geonoisians standing right on top of each other. Hit em once, and they'll gladly let you count em, lol. Thanks for your attention in these matters.



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awentwor
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:03 am
#116



Kane_Firestalker wrote:
Could we get some kind of a response on the AFK-Looters in the Borgle Bat Cave on Rori? I see the same people there every day running an outside program to loot the debris piles while they aren't even in game. Aren't using outside macro programs like this against the EULA?





Kane_Firestalker,

It's actually funny that you mention this. I reported five users through /report, then created a CSR ticket demanding action. In the ticket, I listed all five of their names, the date and time it happened, and sent the ticket in using my holocron. I got a candid response back stating "We are aware of the problem and are working twoard a resolution... please close ticket" response. NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

I added some additional, not so nice comments demanding that something be done about this problem. This time I actually got a CSR response back. It said something to the lines of, "SOE does not discuss their disciplinary actions with players. Please close ticket". Well... guess what? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

So I placed some additional rude comments into the ticket and sent it back again. I'm now waiting on yet another CSR response. Through all this, however, I went back to the caves and the same five people were there afk looting. What does this tell me? Exploiting is permitted as long as these people are paying customers. I know it states in the terms of service that these accounts are supposed to be banned, but I've yet to see it happen. I guess I'll just have to start afk looting myself so I can get decent skill tapes and other items since I can't get them any other way without spending 4 million credits on them.

Anyone have a good macro for afk looting?

And Thunderheart... I hope you see this as not an actual request to exploit the game but one persons plea that Sony starts enforcing rules. How hard is it to have a CSR log into the game at the borgle bat caves, send a couple spatial chat requests, and then kick out those who do not answer?




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awentwor
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:31 am
#117



Prophetiv wrote:
Hmm! Lets see Cyberfet for one your a moron. I said lag I didn't say the game was choppy.
Yeh and people cant always buy a new a new system . But lets see maybe its a problem with
system.
Promethia case
AMD 64FX (overclocked to 2.6 Ghz)
2 Gigs of ram 4400 corsair
2 x 36 Serial ATA WD Raptors running RAID 0
Promise SATA 150 RAID (Card is better then the one on MB)
ASUS RADEON 9800 Pro
So let me say again it lags and I am positive its not my connection. I checked.
I also have another system in my house thats just like yours. We have it in another
room I let my girlfriend use it its to slow for gaming.
I look at the network connection. Thats what I mean by LAG. I also play on a different server so
where you are may be just fine for you. What time do you play. Its alot of factors in it moron.
You think its 99% of the people harware problem. But good for you you got a new system but
from what i can tell you know nothing about computers. And you can post you Radio Shack
system all you want it doent impress anyone. So I'm certain its not a hardware problem because
I would smoke you. WHat kind of Vid card is it just some vid card with 256 megs.
P





Prophetiv,

Not sure why you are calling anyone a moron... from what I could tell, Cyberfet was just trying to be helpful. Just because it doesn't help you, you take him as being a moron. Well... I'll follow your example and call you an ASS.

Have you turned on your network monitor from the control options (control-O) and watch your FPS and PING when going through areas (like Coronet) during times of high Lag? At that time when you see it, do you message surrounding players to see if they are also seeing Lag? Since it obviously isn't your machine, and you say it's not your connection, then EVERYONE should be experiencing the problem since it HAS TO BE a server problem. What do other people say? I hate to tell you, but if they aren't seeing lag, then its you buddy.

So stop calling people morons or you are going to force me to play the stupidity card on your ass. Let's all work together and try and find out where the problem is.




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