Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Publish 7: Major Features

Tennyo
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:50 pm
#92

Some nice stuff in this patch. I'm wondering that now we have combat capable droids, will Battle Droids and Destroyer Droids become craftable in the near future?



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PlayeroftheDay
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:51 pm
#93






Daker-Naritus wrote:





Quote:


There is a 30 second delay after you call for a vehicle/mount/pet/droid before it will generate.







I just spend 10 minutes drafting a polite, well-thought-out post about why this is a bad idea...


Unfortunately TH, since you once again posted using HTML (even though every single one of us has asked you not to) and the board ate my whole post. (Hint: Draft your posts in the editor like the rest of us do...stop cutting and pasting, because it screws everything up).


So you get the shortened (and irritated) version:


This is a dumb idea for vehicles. (1) Vehicles can't be used to attack or tank...they provide no combat advantage. (2) They can't be used to get away...if you are going to lose a battle, you will be dead by the time you open your datapad, and call your vehicle, and mount it, and move out of attack range. Additionally, all players can call vehicles (so in pvp the other players can chase you on their vehicles) and you can shoot vehicles out from underneath others. (3) Against NPCs, NPCS rarely attack vehicles if you park them right, so players never store their vehicles anyway...the timer will change nothing.


There is NO combat justification for the delay on calling vehicles. There is no justification period...


Please change this...






If it doesn't matter, why change it...it doesn't matter right? You'll have the vehicle out anyways.
PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:52 pm
#94

Does the lighting include desk lamps? And are the new ones going to be similiar in size to the free standing lamp or the streetlamps? Or, dare I ask, chandeliers?


Oh and for the /move up can we sink things into the ceiling/floor to an extent to hide parts or is it basically set at the floor is the lowest and ceiling highest?




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LordVader008
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:52 pm
#95

Have they told us what kind of new combat drods there are? or are there none? a battle droid or droidekia would be a cool pet...


/fantasize





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Tathir
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:53 pm
#96

Uhhh....yah I'll except pvp. to a point. we'll see. no need hashing out everything that's been said, which is everything that can be said, for the 50 millionth time.



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tometaophion
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:54 pm
#97

So only a doctor can use a blanket on someone and not a para*medic* lol
Daker-Naritus
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:55 pm
#98






PlayeroftheDay wrote:





Daker-Naritus wrote:





Quote:


There is a 30 second delay after you call for a vehicle/mount/pet/droid before it will generate.







I just spend 10 minutes drafting a polite, well-thought-out post about why this is a bad idea...


Unfortunately TH, since you once again posted using HTML (even though every single one of us has asked you not to) and the board ate my whole post. (Hint: Draft your posts in the editor like the rest of us do...stop cutting and pasting, because it screws everything up).


So you get the shortened (and irritated) version:


This is a dumb idea for vehicles. (1) Vehicles can't be used to attack or tank...they provide no combat advantage. (2) They can't be used to get away...if you are going to lose a battle, you will be dead by the time you open your datapad, and call your vehicle, and mount it, and move out of attack range. Additionally, all players can call vehicles (so in pvp the other players can chase you on their vehicles) and you can shoot vehicles out from underneath others. (3) Against NPCs, NPCS rarely attack vehicles if you park them right, so players never store their vehicles anyway...the timer will change nothing.


There is NO combat justification for the delay on calling vehicles. There is no justification period...


Please change this...






If it doesn't matter, why change it...it doesn't matter right? You'll have the vehicle out anyways.






Because vehicles are severly bugged and auto-store genius... My point is that it won't have any beneficial effects, but you will now have to wait 30 seconds EVERY time you want to call your vehicle.


You don't think that is a little dumb?

nolan007
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:57 pm
#99





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IForgotMyName
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:58 pm
#100

Hey Thunderheart if your adding bantha mounts are you going to fix the loot drops on the Tuskens? All I need is a helmet and I can help the Tuskens kill all the stormtroopers in bestine!



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ITOAO
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:58 pm
#101

I cannot wait for all these changes to go live. My interest of late had been waning, This brings more hope that i will want to continue playing this game. Great things seem to be in store. I am just anxious for the combat balance to be done. I really want to see the effect it has on the game.



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PlayeroftheDay
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:00 pm
#102






Daker-Naritus wrote:





PlayeroftheDay wrote:





Daker-Naritus wrote:





Quote:


There is a 30 second delay after you call for a vehicle/mount/pet/droid before it will generate.







I just spend 10 minutes drafting a polite, well-thought-out post about why this is a bad idea...


Unfortunately TH, since you once again posted using HTML (even though every single one of us has asked you not to) and the board ate my whole post. (Hint: Draft your posts in the editor like the rest of us do...stop cutting and pasting, because it screws everything up).


So you get the shortened (and irritated) version:


This is a dumb idea for vehicles. (1) Vehicles can't be used to attack or tank...they provide no combat advantage. (2) They can't be used to get away...if you are going to lose a battle, you will be dead by the time you open your datapad, and call your vehicle, and mount it, and move out of attack range. Additionally, all players can call vehicles (so in pvp the other players can chase you on their vehicles) and you can shoot vehicles out from underneath others. (3) Against NPCs, NPCS rarely attack vehicles if you park them right, so players never store their vehicles anyway...the timer will change nothing.


There is NO combat justification for the delay on calling vehicles. There is no justification period...


Please change this...






If it doesn't matter, why change it...it doesn't matter right? You'll have the vehicle out anyways.






Because vehicles are severly bugged and auto-store genius... My point is that it won't have any beneficial effects, but you will now have to wait 30 seconds EVERY time you want to call your vehicle.


You don't think that is a little dumb?







I think I've had my vehicle auto-store on me maybe twice in the past 3 weeks. Hardly an inconvenience, I'll still use a camp to pull since it wont take 30 seconds. I understand your point but the way I see it is, imagine you are a Jedi and with the new special improvements to BH inthispublishyou get a bounty on you (and the tracking works). A BH fires upon you while you are out hunting on Dath, you setup a macro to automatically pull your vehicle from DP and have you mount, boom you are gone. That doesn't sound very fair, now does it. By the way I appreciate the compliement, I agree I'm a pretty smart guy. Thanks!


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mmaughme
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:04 pm
#103






Thunderheart wrote:

  • Droid Battery consumption rate halved (enabling them to last twice as long)
  • There is a 30 second delay after you call for a vehicle/mount/pet/droid before it will generate




1) One thing seriously missing from droids is a monitor showing their remaining power. The only way to tell if a droid's running low is to be looking at it when it starts to complain about running low. Please provide something in the droid's /exam window showing its power status.

2) Adding a 30 second timer to call a vehicle, pet or droid is a terrible idea. First, vehicles, pets and droids randomly disappear for no apparent reason. We have to wait 30 seconds to get them back? Second, a vehicle is about the only way to escape certain death if you're a terrible or non combatant. Forcing a 30 second delay is a great way to get people killed, when all they want to do is get away from a dangerous situation. Third, I don't see Pistoleers, Bounty Hunters or Pikemen forced to wait 30 seconds to equip their weapons, why are CH going to be forced to wait 30 seconds to call theirs?

3) I can edit HTML -- a lot of these folks can't. Please limit your HTML to such things as bold, color and italics as the more advanced features are hobbling the abiity of some people to respond to your posts.





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Bamboozle
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:07 pm
#104

Thunderheart, may I ask if you areplanning any changes to the TEF system? Many players are upset about group TEF, and feel that it is unfair for a covert player to be able to have an advantage in PvP over an overt player (first strike advantage).



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