Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10 Feedback: Jedi Revamp Part 2, The Jedi Trials
Excalibur042
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:26 pm
#977
Since i was told the DEVS acually read the forums, I'd just like to formally say the following:
It
END THE GRINDING! Please.
Able72
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:31 pm
#979
Yeah right, the Devs read these forums about as often as you read your junk email. They give us these so we don't clog their email inboxes with the same complaints 100 times a day. There is no way they read them all. Heck this makes my 6th post to this forum and I'd lay odds the only people to have read any of them are other players. Buts sometimes you gotta vent ya know?
Excalibur042
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:45 pm
#980
Anyways as i was saying, In the old system, when i learned that mastering professions was they key to unlocking your jedi i basically refused to mindlessly listen to a box tell me to master a profession. Like tailor skills will help you when your a jedi... Honestly.. Are you going to knit a sweater for a Super Battle Droid that wants to kill you? I refused to have any part of it and decided to just have fun in the GCW. When i first heard news of Publish 10, I rejoiced. A quest based system sounded like a much more Star Warsy type feel. I couldn't wait to get started. Now we have to do what you DEV's said was why you made the new system. Now we have to grind millions and million of XP in order to unlock Jedi. In the old system even mastering all 32 professions from scratch, and not even trying to do it in a rush would take less time than the new system. Now you will have 2 cases. One, anybody with free branches will become a Jedi and two anybody who doest will most likely not. Now we do not really get a chance. I understand becoming a Jedi requires patience and training but this is rediculous. I would rather master the 32 other professions than doing this. I know it woul be dificult to change this system, But at least lower the conversions, or the amount of xp needed, let Quests give some xp, something. I do not think if you were in our position, you would enjoy grinding for posssible 1-2 years to achive something you have wanted to be. You never mentioned that more grinding would be involved and by the time I would finish i seriously would be "to old to begin the training" . I hope you consider some of the things i have said. Also i would like to say great job on the village and the quests and i am really looking foward to JTL.
In closing i only have 4 words to say:END THE GRIND, PLEASE!
Sincerely,
Excalibur
EvilNegotiator
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:13 pm
#981
I wouldnt mind just a message that says "we're looking into it" for like all the stuff, instead of silence, it would no doubt save them a few accounts. Hell id prefer them to say "This is how the unlock path is intended and will not change" although with the later statement they will probably lose customers fast. Faster than the current rate anyway. They must be pretty hard into JTLS or somin, seeing if they can boost people but if if the AED part of the game isnt sorted then the game is gonner turn into a mmo space simulator and the planets will be devoid of humanoid life forms well apart from the NPCs and the shipwrights. they will be pretty lonely people those shipwrights. After awhile if its still not sorted, this character purgin there gonner put in will mean cities will begin to vanish and it will end up pretty much a blank server apart from space and the house with the few ship wrights.
We really need the GCW and Combat revamp, the name of the game "An Empire Divided" doesnt fit with the game atm. Maybe some title that is relevent to see how fast it will take for you to get pissed off with endless grinding. See who actually spends 5 years grinding architect, if some one actually did that they would deserve a real life medal and a large sum of cash.
Its daft. There isnt much point in the conversion rates. The thing that mainly slows people down, well hardcore people that is, is the phases. I wouldnt mind if they upped the phase length another week if it ment getting rid of the super highrates.
They just seem to be trying to hold on to customers till JTLS then there gonner hope that gets people into it again, although alot of people dont care about JTLS. There doing the old trick of dangling somin that the majority want infront of them but its always gonner be just out of your reach.
BatosaiB
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:17 pm
#982
I got this link from a Jedi Post
http://www.ds.unifi.it/VL/VL_EN/applets/UrnExperiment.html
this will give you an Estimate of the odds of finding your silent Holo, I did 6,3 free unlocks, this shows you might do 25 and have 1 unlock, Java App, try it out, Put total 32, Red 24(non holo), Blue8 (Holo) hit run a couple of times see how many greens show up, amazing that sometimes it's a Zero chance 
Message Edited by BatosaiB on 09-08-2004 06:18 PM
JediNizar2
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:46 pm
#983
can any1 help please,
I just got visited by the 2 siths, i lootedt a datadisk, now when i tray to use it, it says "You must loot that object before u can bla bla..."
can any one help me? if i destroythe datadisk will the siths come again?
Kalvin87
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:56 pm
#984
THANKS FOR JUST RENAMING THE GRIND AND MAKING IT HARDER.
You guys are a bunch of FREAKING idiots. The quests are just crap cover-ups for the grind.
Just go shoot yourselves in the face. Now.
Wow. Thank you devs.
cokyewok
Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:14 pm
#985
Ok I was glowy the day that pub 10 came did not do any holo grinding at all (first holo i got said to master mucisian) got a vist from old man on day 2 of pub 10 theres my feed back on that now on to another problem
im a mastr doc and the xp cap for medial xp is 80k and the conversion rate is 1:10 so for ever cap out i get 8k xp now with a combat profession they get if caped out at 900k with a conversion of 1:30 (with pistol u can get that in like 2 hrs) so that comes to 30k xp per turn in (if u do it that way) so all the combat profession can be gotten fairly quickly . Now on the other hand with doc its ganna take a long time. Picked up scout to help out (oh yeah unlocked the persuasion FS tree) well that's still slow going .
Now that I got that off my chest. I was woundering is there ganna be some changes made to the other FS perfession that dont deal with Combat. Because at this rate ill still be grinding up the Persuasion tree after i unlock the 6 trees need to gain jedi intiate.
Maybe make the conversion rate a little more pratical or make the xp cap Higher for those profeesions
just wanted to throw that out there any feed back on this matter would be great!!!!
Hoey scratchalot
Kettemore
master Doctor/Scout/Novice Pikeman
Talmer
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:14 pm
#986
The whole problem with the Dev's doing the JEdi this way to "thin out" Jedi population is, JEDI ARE ALREADY ALL OVER. On Starsider, where I play, for me to go into GCW PvP is suicidebecause evrytime I turn around, I see several Dark Jedi, and if I kill some Imps, Dark JEdi show up before I can make an escape. Therefore, it is in my best interest to stay covert and away from Imperial patrols, which means all I can do is WHAT I HAVE DONE ALREADY until JTL comes out, WHICH IS BORING.
BTW, I like the idea of the Devs Cave, but I have already deleted my char and made a ne wone so I can have some re-playability, but still got boredwithin 5 minutes.
BoomerTBH
Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:20 pm
#987
BOYCOTT JTL MAYBE THEY WILL LISTEN TO US THEN!
DON'T PURCHASE JTL
Ectyo
Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:21 am
#988
I was able to fill the Combat Prowess novice box, train it and open up the Combat Prowess skill tree without having to do the quest.
I had done the Crafting Mastery quest (I haven't gotten enough experience yet though to train it and open the skill tree.)
Should I have been able to do this?
-Ectyo
I had done the Crafting Mastery quest (I haven't gotten enough experience yet though to train it and open the skill tree.)
Should I have been able to do this?
-Ectyo