Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Tenant
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:14 am
#898






Deepcore wrote:

You've got too feel sory for TH, he gets the new job and this is the first major announcement he has to make








Probably explains why the last guy resigned.



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AkashaMille
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:14 am
#899

PLEASE LUCA$ART GIVE MMORPG SW BASED DEVELOPPEMENT TO BIOWARE


KOTOR IS THE BEST EVER SEEN SW RPG BASED


SOE IS UNABLE TO MANAGE THE PROJECT


THAT'S ALL




AkashaMille

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TheRealXur
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:28 am
#900



Fred_Skinner wrote:


Shiva420 wrote:


Geral_Corasjo wrote:
AMAZING
SIMPLY AMAZING
a hypocrite in action!
31 pages of simple nonsense, hate crap
Tell me please, I am fascinated by human nature....Why do you rant? Does it make you feel any better? Do you think you accomplished something? Did you make a difference here?
ahem... read above... *cough* hypocrite*cough*
i notice you are registered feb./24/04... did you happen to notice that almost 85%+ of people who are saying the are going to quit have been playing PAYING for more then 9 months... if you had seen everything they have you would feel the same way. . youll see keep playing and paying... im sure in 6 months youll still think it was $ well spent... psh


Speak for yourself, not him, or me. I'm not leaving and you better take me off that "complaint counter", not all posts here are negitive. You can note MY registered date and post count. He is right, many of you are throwing a tantrum when all they want to do is NOT make the mistake they did a year ago with JtLS. Is this cambat rebuild really that much more important then having the spaceships added? NO it is NOT. Sorry. That is the hard, cold truth.

I know something about schedualing of a big software project and sometimes you can throw all the programers in NASA and JPL with all the capital of theNational GDP behind it and actually make it take LONGER to do. This is the right aproach, had to be done.






Bad management is bad management.

They have had 12 months building up to the current point, it's not like overnight someone just all of the sudden wanted something and wanted it right now.

This game has never been fixed since launch, the GCW has never worked. And the "Combat Balance" started, that we have real proof of, with Creature Handler, as it seems completely obvious that development of it stopped directly after that.

You might be happy with this slow development cycle but many are not. They simply do not feel that they have gotten their $15 a month out of the game.

If you do, that's great, and I honestly hope you continue to enjoy your time in the game, but many of us have heard the same song and dance over and over again just a little too often.

Mark my words, you WILL NOT see combat balance till at least after the first of the year, which will make the combat balance itself 1 year in the making.

If it goes anything like the GCW, well, it's been over a year now, still waiting. . .

I myself am starting to miss Blizzard, granted the battle.net lag sucked but at least I didn't feel screwed at the end of every month. Heck, I think patches came faster there and they were free.
Crazyreed
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:39 am
#901

WHY HASN'T THUNDERPANTS BEEN FIRED YET!!!



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Maxpax
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:39 am
#902

Subscrition canceled.





Nessuno
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ACCOUNTS CANCELLED 16/7/04
Malicious1
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:40 am
#903

i love the twinks who think jtl will be any different then the current level of BS


doesnt take a genius to see the trainwreck coming folks,just open eyes.


you cannot support a game this size with over half the staff resources shifted to another title


soon theyll have 2 titles to make excuses about and the same staff levels for dev team....seee whats gonna happen....alot more soe enduced TH lies....er miscommunications whatever.


i cant think of any reason any person with an ounce of integrity would be the mouth piece for this game,its simply mind numbing the many TH info blunders and now guess whose in charge.


anyway im beating a dead horse...er game,those that want this so badly they are willing to close there eyes can have it .....all 4 of you...lol






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Squeegy112
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:42 am
#904

wow this is really disappointing...


i have a jedi...i like being a jedi...


with that said i am going to play swg for alittle more until wow comes out...then im prolly going to cancel my 3 accounts...


i was really looking foreward to the CR and GCW changes...


truthfully i never really cared about JTL, if i want to play a space based shooter, i got a few good ones on my XBOX i can play...


im out, i may go check out CoH until WoW...
TheRealXur
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:49 am
#905



Kaessa wrote:
*sigh*
Honestly, it's threads like these.. the ranting, the screaming, the crying, the "I QUIT!".. THIS is the reason I hardly ever post in these forums.
People. STEP BACK. Just for a moment. Stop. Take a deep breath.
Tell yourself... "It's a video game. I'm having a fit.. over a video game." See how silly that makes you feel?
I spend more in amonth on coffee than I do on this game, and I have 3 accounts. Honestly. It's not like I'm spending a fortune on the game. So stop bringing up OMG I SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON THIS GAME!! If you aren't having fun, why are you playing? Isn't that the POINT of a video game? To have fun? If you ARE having fun.. well, *relax*.. things will get better. If it gets to the point where you *aren't* having fun - move on! It's not a life changing event! It's not the death of a family member! It's a VIDEO GAME. I read some of these responses, and I swear I can see the eyes bulging, the spit flying, the veins popping.. is it worth it? Fora *video game*?
I've been playing this game since the beginning of beta 3. I have 3 accounts. I play a Wookiee CH/Politician (gimp). I play a Rodian dancer (gimp). I have one real combat character. Do I enjoy playing? You bet! If I did NOT enjoy this game, I sure as heck wouldn't be playing it. I've got better things to do with my time than spend time doing something I hate. I have work for that, and they pay me. I'll be playing this game for a long time to come. I'm looking forward to the upcoming changes. I'm looking forward to JTL. Will it have bugs? More than likely. Will I keep playing? Sure thing. Until the game is no longer fun. Then I'll move on.
And I certainly won't rant about it for months on end before I go.
Just my 2 credits.





Actually, no I'm not having fun. I haven't had any fun since oh I don't know, about January or so. Since then I've been waiting, ever day for the rest of the balance.

Every single day it's more problems and more lies.

Got an idea for all those "It's only $15" people. I'm gunna go setup a web site, and you guys can all come and drop $15 a month on me, and I'll see if I can't tell a joke once a week or something, I mean, it's ONLY $15 right.

You spend more than that on coffee right.
Vep
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:50 am
#906



KyleKnox wrote:
TH - Jedi have been told over and over that we were the first class "balanced" -translation nerfed - for the upcoming CB. We have also been told to "wait for the CB" so that ohter classes will be brought into line with our gimped damage (a swordsman does twice the damage to me as a Master LS with an all pearl 4th gen in PvP - TWICE the damage) and stripped of our armour.
About the armour issue we were told repeatedly that robes would have resists and not to worry all armour would be nerfed anyway. Well with the CB now many many more months off, please give these three issues a backend band-aid. Please.
1) LS damage is too low - WAY TOO LOW. We were told damage mitgation for melee temploiters was going away in CB - well now it will be here to stay for some time. On a temploiter with buffs and food, A MASTER LS can not DO enough damage to overcome their REGEN rate. I have tested htis numerous times. WE CANT DO ENOUGH DAMAGE. We run out of force and die. From ONE player.
2)Robes MUST HAVE ARMOUR-LIKE RESISTS. This is what we were promised. You took away our high end comp, and we were told robes would replace it. RIght now, my RIFLE/CM is a better tank than my jedi...I say again , MY RIFLE/CM is a BETTER TANK than my 2nd RANK JEDI KNIGHT, particularly in PvE. This is a pure, cruel vicious joke.
3) Our poison cures and disease cures need to be UNNERFED back to the level they were before patch 9 - why were these nerfed in the first place?
These are gaping wound injuries in the current system. They are simple tweaks. Please fix them. TY.





actually creature handlers were the first to be rebalanced back in DECEMBER 2003!

does anyone else remember a post by Q3PO i believe that said the JTL dev team was seperate from the SWG core dev team and it would not interrupt our patches and gaming? ill get to researching that one i swear i remember reading that somewhere.
Shiva420
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:53 am
#907


some may see this as a waste of time, but i have time to spare and i would liketo make it obvious the community reaction up untill this point... so here goes...

let the counting begin...people who spammed (by spammed i mean posted numerous times,not implying those posts had nothing good to say- just saying they had obviously posted more then once or twice) only count as 1 ... feel free to check me and count for yourselves:


EDIT: i started this thinking it wouldnt take tooooo long... but now its almost and hour later and im only on page 12 =/ getting sleepy... so ill post the results for up to page 12- then when i wake up finish it out...


posts:

negitive reaction against, disappointed,and the like)-----181posts


positive reaction for it, happy, excited,"great job")-----13posts


indifferent: (didnt show strong feelings either way- usually general statements/suggestions, requests for more info and flames-personal flames against those who dont share their opinion) -------39posts


implied cancelations: -----56


to be continued....

Message Edited by Shiva420 on 07-16-2004 06:56 AM



* Leah-Enlil *
account cancelled... ironicaly it ended exactly 1 year after it was purchased.july 25th.
pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
- still hoping the dev team will get replaced and the game i once loved will get fixed. fix the core game, and problems.stop nerfing everything thats fun. stop doing things noone in the player community asked for!! listen to your customers damnit!!!
-SanGreal-
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:56 am
#908

Don't worry. The combat revamp has been delayed, but it is confirmed that new emotes WILL be added before JTL!!



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"Looking forward, we think there are three major systems that we need to address before we launch into Space: Combat Balance, the Jedi System, and the Galactic Civil War." -- Gary Gattis
Raptorfish
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:57 am
#909






Crazyreed wrote:

WHY HASN'T THUNDERPANTS BEEN FIRED YET!!!




Totally un-called for. That would be a simple case of shooting the messenger. The fact remains the message is the same. His job is to mitigate the information provided by the Company to the player base and vice versa. Yes he may have an effect on the game to the degree of how well he gives them our feedback, but calling for him to be fired for simply doing his job...?

Crazyreed
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:58 am
#910

If everyone in the game read these forums then hundreds more will cancel their accounts. I think we should spread the word in starport spamming.



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