Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
Dynonychus
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:00 am
#911
Well, I'll have to say that it's a good bit you're doing character transfer first, because from the sounds of things, you are going to have to consolidate servers and shut some down to make a playable population on any of the remaining ones (oh, and incidently saving yourself some money). Good job.
Now I don't paticularly care about the Combat Rebalance (even though it destroyed my first profession of Creature Handler), nor the GCW (because PvP in an MMO is a waste of time unless you spend every waking moment in game), because those who don't leave are going to be fighting it out in space anyways... unless the buggy, half-finished expansion drives them back to the ground where their space-gotten TEFs make starports a favourite camp site for Jedi gankers. However, I do care that this singular marketing blunder has torn my PA in two and may be responsible for reducing my lovely City to a Villiage.
But it's a done deal. It's over, and all the negative posts in the Galaxy won't change this. All they will do now is keep feeding Spin-Doctor Thunderheart lines that he can regurgitate down to us with a false Marketingsmile and an "It's good for you, trust me"... despite all the times he has told us, whenever there's a complaint, "The Combat Rebalance will fix all your troubles. The Combat Rebalance will make everything fun again. Trust me." It's not Spin-Doctor Thunderheart's fault... he's only here to spin the bad news and take flak for it. No, I rather blame the Devs for their lack of foresight. I blame Marketing for shoving the game out of the door before it was finished. Lastly, I blame Holo (yes, Holo) for his complete, utter, and dismal failure to understand the people who would be playing this game... the same Holo that has before blamed his failure on the players who were "not playing the game the way it was meant to be played". Hello, give this man a wake-up call.... this was not to be UO 2, it was to be Star Wars.
NeoDaywalker
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:00 am
#912
Depressing, Jedis get this, Jedis get that. Content, better powers, better equipment. We all get promised that stuff and it get pushed back farther and farther each time.
My commando sucks in what is left of PvP, I'd like to be a Squad Leader but they are useless...
It seems that you just want everyone to be a Jedi, and I have no problem with that but maybe you should make it more attainable for the rest of us that don't want to spend endless hours on the computer. The hardcore players are getting all the attention, guess what, the rest of us pay the same monthly fee.
Massadonious
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:01 am
#913
Crazyreed wrote:
WHY HASN'T THUNDERPANTS BEEN FIRED YET!!!
He's just the messenger. I wouldn't and don't blame him. Unfortunately, he's too good of an employee. He's basically saying what SOE wants him to say.
Rebel, TH, rebel, for the love of god. Show SOE what 41 pages of unhappy/cancelling customers looks like.
TheRealXur
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:03 am
#914
SithCetra wrote:
Good thing to keep us up to date TH, thanks.
Personnaly i can't wait for JTL, i am very excited. I will wait combat balance and GCW publishes with my TIE fighter, and it will be very cool
I don't understand why people is complaining about jedi publishes. 6 months ago, the forum was plagued of threads such as "Hologrind is killing swg" or "20 prof i cancel" or "Devs have made swg hologrind-land" So devs have decided to fix that, before others changes on schedule, because of the frenzy of people. Now that hologrind is nearly finished, we heard the voice of people who wanted a GCW and CB change NOW. I am disapointed, devs cannot split up, and the dev-team is not complete. They don't have 33 fingers and 4 brains. They need time... "Rome was not builded in one day". Patience every one, if your are bored of the game, try another prof (other than the ubber, buffed TKA-swordman) try to play the game, talk to NPC, visit planets, make groups with people (other than solo-group) and hunt with a beginner template... Or leave the game... Stop complaining, devs are reading these boards (too much i think) and they are keeping us informed.
Have faith and enjoy
Jedi have to date, never enhanced one single aspect of the game, and I'm willing to bet they never will. I'm willing to bet if you took a survey, the majority of players would simply like to see the jedi profession(s) deleted from the game today.
CWEGuru
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:05 am
#916
Well I will not be cancelling for the simple reason I'm addicted. I have 5 accounts and play 10-12 hours a day.
Here is what concerns me most :
- What credit for mastered professions will we get in publish 10? (from reading the dev chat I am afraid it will be no credit at all)
- I want more content. Let me be clear. I want more content. Not all this camped content I want to be able to fight what I want to fight not sit 2 hours after a camper kills the Acklay.
- I want loot. Loot should be based on how hard the mob is. Last night after waiting the 2 hours for the Acklay my team killed it and guess what. NO LOOT.
Eventhough I am an addict I wont stay an addict for long and SOE is on the verge of curing me. My friends, family and employeer will thank you the day you do cure me and I cancel my 5 accounts. That day is getting closer and closer, I will miss my addiction.
Lownewulfe
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:05 am
#917
OH COME ON PEOPLE! Asking for the man to be fired? Are you out of your gourd?!
Thunderheart is simply passing on a decision that was made by many more people than just him for christs sake.....I wouldn't be shocked to find out that he didn't even have anything to do with it at all and you want to hang him for informing us?
Please calm down and direct your irritation/anger/whatever towards the correct positions.
I'm upset by this announcement, many are and some are not. I too want to see and play JtLS and I also want my game that I paid for to work properly in all aspects. I want to see the people who want things that I don't care about to be happy with their leisure activities (namely SWG) but I don't consider TH the bane of all our gaming lives.
Maintain some perspective in this infuriating situation, have some respect, act like an adult and cuss...er discuss things with passion but common sense.
OH....and don't buy JtLS until they fix our game. 
Raster
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:05 am
#918
Publish 10 at the end of August???? **edit** was the point of finishing the grind to Jedi after publish 9 if your forced to wait 2 freaking months or more with a character that really you can't do anything with because its going to change to become a jedi?
Jiveer
Crazyreed
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:11 am
#919
I THINK A NEW COMPANY SHOULD TAKE OVER THIS GAME. SOE R **edit**.
Angoris
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:15 am
#920
Thunderheart, your entire post is unacceptable. SOE has their focus on money, not on the playerbase. The Jedi should have been the LAST thing you focused on. This point in the storyline was about the Galactic Civil War, not Knights of the Old Republic. Your "team" has turned Star Wars Galaxies : AN EMPIRE DIVIDED into nothing more than a mockery of what it should be. The combat rebalance and GCW fix needs to happen NOW, not after JTL, not after you fix the Jedi, it needs to happen now, not tomorrow, not next year, NOW. Push JTL back. Make a big step in teh gaming industry and state that you will be pushing JTL back to fix the game you already have in progress. Stop working on things like swoop tracks, hermit quests and Jedi "tweaks" and start working on things like the GCW and it's broken turrets that get blown up in one swipe of a Jedi Lightsaber (Zuul accomplished this last night on the intrepid server), turrets that do not fire on declared Enemies, faction scanners that sit there useless, the fact that only those organizations with bases should be able to attack an opposite faction base... These things would fix the game NOW, not some scratch-ass Jedi fix and pointless Swoop Track. The smugglers need to be fixed NOW. Rangers need to be fixed NOW. Combat needs to be fixed NOW. These things are what your players are dealing with NOW and they are the things that need to be addressed NOW, not some expansion that isn't even in BETA yet! I came to SWG from other games because of its richness of content, and since I have been here (not more than a quarter of a year) I have seen the game decline tremendously and the reason for this decline is your wrongfully focusing on the Jedi, little immature players who have no idea what it means to be a Jedi during this point in history being allowed to run around brandishing Lightsabers and wearing Jedi robes who grief everyone they can get their hands on because you have based the damned Jedi system on PVP!!! HELLO!?! Jedi were knights of peace not warlords and tyrants. You have ruined the Jedi by overthinking them. If you want this to be Episode 1 era, then you need to completely throw the game in the garbage, start over, remove the Empire and go from there, otherwise, when the Jedi pull out their saber, every imperial in the area should open fire. If a Jedi is wearing robes in public, they should be open for attack. If a Jedi uses powers, they shouild be open for attack. Jedi are being HUNTED, not terrorizing the galaxy. FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS or more and more people will LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE which means you make LESS LESS LESS money. Wake up or fail... This new decision disgusts me.
JGexpat
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:15 am
#921
With all due respect: JTL is a different **edit**ING game!!! - What a bunch of arrogantpeople SOE really are.
For goodness sake, if my BMW 3-series is broken, I do notexpect BMW to turn around and say "Sorry sir, we can't fix your 3-Series, we're too busy working on the 4-series".
get some lessons in customer service. We are not a **edit**ing CASHCOW!!!! - I PAY for this game NOW and want it FIXED NOW! Not after you've developed yet ANOTHER game. its absolutely OUTRAGEOUS that this attitude is not just being tolerated but is actually being accepted!!! - If you lack the resources to fix SWG then employsome more people FFS. and if SWG was just one big experiment, let us play for FREE!! - dont expectUS to pay for your time in developing a different game, we pay our subscriptions to get you to provide us with a service that works NOW.
and NO, I WILL NOT BE RENEWING MY SUBSCRIPTION.
Rubicon47BC
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:16 am
#922
Massadonious wrote:
Crazyreed wrote:
WHY HASN'T THUNDERPANTS BEEN FIRED YET!!!
He's just the messenger. I wouldn't and don't blame him. Unfortunately, he's too good of an employee. He's basically saying what SOE wants him to say.
Rebel, TH, rebel, for the love of god. Show SOE what 41 pages of unhappy/cancelling customers looks like.
At this point in time, I don't give a **edit** he's just the messenger. I know the proverb is 'don't shoot the messenger', but by itself that does imply that shooting the messenger is pretty common, otherwise it would not be a proverb, now would it?
Daveydje
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:16 am
#923
Crazyreed wrote:I THINK A NEW COMPANY SHOULD TAKE OVER THIS GAME. SOE R **edit**.
Where the h3ll is Bioware when you need them...