Development Cycle Archive
Thread: AT-ST changes on Test Center
XanEldarie wrote:
One more thing: I AM in college, and I'm taking quite a few multimedia courses. So pay attention now, someday I might be shaking hands with Thunderheart on my first day of work
One day you might apply to the design firm I own. Pray to god you never tell me you are this dweeb in game. Great insight into your personal character mate.
Cafa Asia
XanEldarie wrote:
MalkavSez69 wrote:
Pssst... Fire shouldn't hurt a light war machine.
Grenades, yes
Rockets, yes
mines, oh heck ya.
poison, bleed, fire: nope.
Tell me, what makes it a war machine? The munitions, right? If they are chemical, such as a bullet, they need a propellent. THATs whats susceptible to flames. Lasers? Well, those need electronics. Light metals an polymers. Both of which... Susceptible to heat and flames.
Come ON! You guys can't be that oblivious to basic science!
Here are some BASIC experiments for you to try:
Please, go get a new bullet and hold a lighter to it. Or, go buy one of those little laser pens, make sure its encased in metal, and heat it for about 20 seconds (the average length of time a flamethrower is held on an AT-ST). See what happens in both experiments. (With the former, be sure to look closely at the lead tip of the bullet; you'll be suprised with the results!)
You guys are reaching so far your arms are falling off. You've been mind-raped with your undying desire to have an AT-ST. Your brains are gone!
Could your ignorance be any more evident?
Go read Janes and come back to the table. Get some practical experience in composites and alloys before you start trying to talk specific heat induction to me, college student.
I really pity your ignorance.
Cafa Asia
CSFlawlessElite wrote:
Cafa, do you understand the fact that its a game and games are made to be fun, not reality, Games are not meant to be nerfed to piss everyone off and make everything so stupid you dont feel like playing them. So what if Flame heats metal. The plain fact is the Devs screwed up and At-st's should have been like this before anyone ever played the game. Then no one would bitch, but since the Devs made this game where at-st's could attack nest and were pretty tough and people could use 3 of them, then they shouldnt take it away, **edit** thats like giving candy to a kid and when hes about to eat it you snatch it from his hand. Thats pretty messed up. The whole fact of it is to have fun playing, I personally wish they would have made a option to play single player so I could play it by myself the way I want to play it. I spend my hard earned money on it and why? for then to nerf everything thats fun?? **edit** get real you just got mind raped for thinking how real this stupid game is.
Actually, the problem I continue to have in large part with the game is moving more away from the devs original vision and shifting to the mindless whits that think, as they probably do in RL, that everything should be handed to them. The holocron gifts are yet again another attempt to fix a problem with giving away the boat.
Realistically, the AT-ST from a game mechanic POV was genius. It gave a reason for the people to play Imperials and enjoy an effect, a persona that has never existed before.
As to your eloquent "mind rape" implication, I was having a great time on Dantooine and the rest of the universe working on economics of the game that had nothing to do with a single issue that has ever been pointed out in any forum. The WORST a rebel could point a finger at me and say is that I won in PvP. FYI, I pay for 8 accounts on this game, now. I still enjoy it. If I want to provide feedback, no matter how useless, on my game play through an available forum that is my option. I would assume from the level of your usual opionions that we are generations apart in RL. Ergo, your rebuttal is akin to the level I expect, selfishness. Mine has always been about the roleplaying and immersion of the scenario. You do not want to play a SW rebel, you want some watered down version of the persona. I rebuff this. Simple as that. In your conception you label the AT-ST as a static perk, while the reality is everything is dynamic.
I respond with vigor to statements made, you use shock language to make yourself feel superior. Therein notes the difference, and the single reason why you're simply offensive, and a troll.
Cafa Asia
Insult after insult is all you people know, weak minded is what I like to call you. You opinions of how you like to play the game is well taken, you want to pay for 8 accounts and not be able to do a single thing but craft be my guess, I personally like action and dont want to wait for people to group. Come to Dantooine where I live and try to take on anything here by yourself with no support, see how long you last here, i bet you wouldnt hang on Dantooine for longer then a hour and you'd go back to pissy Coronet or Achorhead and do you pitty gnorts and mocks for 1000 credits.
I on the other hand 100% agree with you on the holocron issue and should never have been given that gift. I had all my holocrons already for both accounts either by looting or I had to pay somone 6 to 10 million dollars for them. Then all of a sudden bam everyone gets 2 holocrons for free. I cant even use mine and now they sell for 500k on the server I play on. Talk about a waste of money and time I put in getting mine.
Also my replay as mind rape was all because of how cocky you try and come accross and was setting you in your place, you are not better then anyone on these forums and the mind rape insult was un-called for. Then you basically try and call me immuture in you last statement, go back and read you last couple posts. I am stating opinions of how I want to play and all you can do is rag on people that have opinions haha get real.
Thunderheart and other devs please read!
I remember reading the changes on the test center and freaking out. they were going to nerf my at-st! But I stand corrected. I remember when I lived in fear of pulling out my at-st around rebels. Now I proadly will use to gun down rebels! However I do have one serious issue thatI think needs fixing.
In the streets as we rage war! They'll come at me overt and I at them! When hopelessly outnumbered I will call upon my at-st to save the day. They die..they clone...they come back TEF! Then they attack me and my at-st just stands there looking at the rebels kill me.
Look the changes arn't that badl, but at-st should be able to attack TEF players as well. Even on guard mode it just sits there.
I know this thread is way to long and it will probably just be buried. But please Using em for the first 30 secd of a battle and then them being useless for the next 20 mins kinda puts them back to where they were a month ago No good for PvP.
CSFlawlessElite wrote:
1. Insult after insult is all you people know, weak minded is what I like to call you. You opinions of how you like to play the game is well taken, you want to pay for 8 accounts and not be able to do a single thing but craft be my guess, I personally like action and dont want to wait for people to group. Come to Dantooine where I live and try to take on anything here by yourself with no support, see how long you last here, i bet you wouldnt hang on Dantooine for longer then a hour and you'd go back to pissy Coronet or Achorhead and do you pitty gnorts and mocks for 1000 credits.
2. I on the other hand 100% agree with you on the holocron issue and should never have been given that gift. I had all my holocrons already for both accounts either by looting or I had to pay somone 6 to 10 million dollars for them. Then all of a sudden bam everyone gets 2 holocrons for free. I cant even use mine and now they sell for 500k on the server I play on. Talk about a waste of money and time I put in getting mine.
3. Also my replay as mind rape was all because of how cocky you try and come accross and was setting you in your place, you are not better then anyone on these forums and the mind rape insult was un-called for. Then you basically try and call me immuture in you last statement, go back and read you last couple posts. I am stating opinions of how I want to play and all you can do is rag on people that have opinions haha get real.
Point 1: I bet I was hanging on Dantooine long before you, with Pistol 4 and nothing else. My 8 accounts are 2 for myself, so I can explore crafting and still enjoy fighting. The other 6 are children, friends and father. We use the game as a vehicle to enjoy something together across 3 generations. My crafter made 24 million over the past 2 weeks through hard work, where Cafa kicked a lot of rebel butt. If you were able to have a debate without retreating to that little corner you live in you would understand that I neither insulted you nor did anything but state the truth of your actions. TROLL = forum participant intent on inciting mayhem and taking the discussion off topic. In 79 on ARPANet there were trolls, today you are continuing the legacy.
Point 2: Amen. Holocrons are terrible in implementation in the first place, IMO. And the free gifts did nothing but disrupt the entire strategic and economic viability of the game. The only sollace is the fact that people are all grinding like crazy and can think of nothing else. Perchance they will come to realize the same premise under which this thread was originally responded to by me and others who became Imperial to explore that side of the game (never offered before in this respect I might add by Lucas); what happens when everyone is a Jedi?
Point 3: Most adults I know can somehow find a way to express themselves without calling people Hitler, or insinuating other vile behaviors to RL. Whether you like it ornot you are immature to me because you troll. Show me a single coherent argument you've brought out against the AT-ST in game? None. All you say is "unfair". You have EVERY chance in game to play with an AT-ST. However, you CHOSE rebel and then call foul when you had to act like one in any degree. Your opinions are not about how "you" want to play so far, they are about how you want other players that CHOSEImperials to play. Ergo, selfish.
Cafa Asia
Travixius wrote:
And to all the whining imps out there I was rebel and have recently switched t imperial. You people are whining about your ATST's when in fact unless you are a officer you shouldnt even have one. And blame your other imperial friends for the nerfs if they hadn't exploited everything with their ATST's this wouldn't have happened.
Something I've been saying since day one.
Obviously everyone that is talking smack about the CH havent taken the time to master it. IT TAKES A LONG TIME!! Especially after the new patch. So layoff the CH. The one thing I want to know is why is it that when u have a knowledge of 40 I can't:
1. call my lvl 40 rancor
2 call 2 lvl 18 pets
A little math for you devs 18+18=36!!!!
So logic would dictate that two pets of lvl 18 would be ok to a max lvl pets of 40!!!
And to all the whining imps out there I was rebel and have recently switched t imperial. You people are whining about your ATST's when in fact unless you are a officer you shouldnt even have one. And blame your other imperial friends for the nerfs if they hadn't exploited everything with their ATST's this wouldn't have happened.
First question is...are the devs even reading this? I have gone though all 40 pages (oye) and yes i own an at-st heck only thing i use it for is to farm cash in imp missions i have yet to find a holo on anything it i has killed.
Second thing is if you read though all the posts that are NOT flaming someone everyone seems to pretty much agree the flamethrower dot needs to be looked at.
Third whats the point in being an officer i am a warrent officer 2 and all i get to do is hold more fraction points woo hoo....it took me nearly a month to get my at-st and im not about to let it die because of a rebel commando which it seems there are either more commando's/mellee fighters out there then anything and the ones that use their fist (i dont have coffee in me leave me alone) are very very dangerous even to an at-st.
I am not saying make the at-st immortal but at least for god sake let me heal it !
I think faction players - no matter what the profession - shouldn't be limited to just one faction pet.
A faction CH, who can have 3 non-faction pets anyway, suddenly has better faction perks than other professions in the faction.
I don't think it's fair that a CH - who is nothing more than a professional ANIMAL trainer, can have 3 stormtroopers at his disposable while the squad leader only gets one.
DarthPain wrote:
I think faction players - no matter what the profession - shouldn't be limited to just one faction pet.
A faction CH, who can have 3 non-faction pets anyway, suddenly has better faction perks than other professions in the faction.
I don't think it's fair that a CH - who is nothing more than a professional ANIMAL trainer, can have 3 stormtroopers at his disposable while the squad leader only gets one.
I agree. I think the only profession that ought to have multiple faction pets out should be the Squad leader.