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Thread: Weekly Roundtable Discussion (Week Ending 4-12-04)

OdiousEncounter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:38 pm
#79

Just wondering....


Did you forget about the poor bartenders? I'm reffering to the NPC ones who give cheap drinks and rumors. They're still giving rumors from Act II, when they were first implemented. Has someone been forgetting to update them?



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bradimere
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:08 pm
#80

Tobad I dont know how to "qoute" others, but there was one post that mentioned how bandoleers cannt be worn w/ a back pack.


I so wish we could wear the full UBESE bounty hunter armor w/ Bandoleer & BH pack. the looks on it would be AWESOME.


To make the human race more dominate , why not allow only Humans to wear Composite Armor, since humans have no perks. And PLEASE dont say that humans can adjust trhere sub stats to wear comp, for i have seen other races in full comp due to DR buffs, then when the buffs wear off, they just leave the heavy armor on there person.


and once the human adjust hhis stats to wear comp w/o buffs, his max H.A.M. would be in the 400 range due to the armor encumberance, while the sub stats will be up near 700 subH.A.M.



Skedoozy
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:16 pm
#81

Whats up with the minimal amount of interaction between The Devs, TH, and the community? The last few weeks to a month has been horrendous with short answers and being told to take our concerns to the Correspondants.


I REALLY hope that this downward spiral of communication stops soon. I thought this was TH's job? Has he been ordered to do otherwise? Maybe SOE ismaking him take on other jobs to cover his salary because they dont think Customer Service and Community Relations are worth anything?





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Deidre_DE
Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:03 pm
#82

TH Said:


I posted the reason in last week's thread. The reason for not clearing the stomach on clone is that not all foods are buffs. Several of them are instant effects (heals, etc.) If you allow the stomach to clear on clone then players can duel and use the no-PvP death penalty to clear their stomach and get a free set of instant food uses.


Im trying to see if we can reverse this decision.


Um, so what you are saying is that you are trying to prevent people from getting a new instant effect by having themselves killed so they can eat another Healing Burrito? Ah, c'mon... that's just plain retarded, SOE! TH, please get this reversed! If you do then more people will be able to eat even more Food-Of-Way-Too-Damn-Many-Checkers.

Kaylin
Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:22 pm
#83






bradimere wrote:

Tobad I dont know how to "qoute" others, but there was one post that mentioned how bandoleers cannt be worn w/ a back pack.






Eloquently put Bradimere..


Back in beta, we could wear bandoliers with backpacks..Thenabout a week before the game went live a patch went in that caused all belts and bandoliers to "hoola hoop" around characters. An attempt to hotfix this followed and sadly it only made the situation worse. Those who remember itknow the publish as the one that killed waist bendshapes. (still unfixed today)Prior to that patch.. long long ago..the scout jacket, and the desert command jacket didn't have the incrediblygirly skirt flares at the bottom, the belted jacket, and imperal uniform jacket didn'thideously deform your chest and waist, andmostnoticeably belts were actually wornUNDER jackets and dusters. These issues unfortunately, have never been adressed. I would very much like to hear from you, THUNDERHEART, or even better a member of the ART TEAM! I think the whole community would appreciate more art team comments on the forums.







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WookieBounty
Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:43 pm
#84






w0rmh0le wrote:

Because Thunderheart, SOE's "Dedicated Communicator" is finally settled in, and has long since abandoned the position once dangled to the public horse as Koster's Amazing Communicating Carrot.


Dev Comunication is at an ALL TIME low, and since the disbanding of the general discussion forum, it no longer takes effort to ignore the remaining player base. Correspondents may actually be hearing from the guy .. and are likely hearing the same "we'll look into it" and "i'll pass this up".


TH's communication has gone from a feverish "Try to catch em all" tempo to starting one thread a week for all servers and all questions and then pasting an occasional "we're looking into it" response.


JustG comes in once in a blue moon to add that "We're not a crook" and "TH is doing a bang up job", also things like "We said we are going to do this, and we are still going to do this, and in six months we will still be "going to do this".


I've seen more dev posts on the frikkin Fan fest and Garva's Home show than on any real game development ideas in the last weeks.


As more and more jedi pop every day the jedi forums are a place of desolation, sadness, flaming, and unanswered questions. I dont even read other profession boards anymore because i know its just more of the same.



The "imperial crackdown" and "droid invasion" patches were the biggest waste of time i've ever witnessedaside frommy own existence.










Ah crap nm i had a nice long flame rant lined up but no sense wasting it on diarreah of the mouth! bah


Good job TH maybe you could post every now and then just telling them your working. that might help...



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JoeyMojo
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:34 pm
#85

OHMSS225 wrote:

TH, I understand that it's intended for stomachs not to empty on death. We would all like to understand the reasoning behind this, as we're having a little trouble understanding the logic.

Please don't ignore this. We would all love an explanation for this and we'll ask as many times as we have to.


I posted the reason in last week's thread. The reason for not clearing the stomach on clone is that not all foods are buffs. Several of them are instant effects (heals, etc.) If you allow the stomach to clear on clone then players can duel and use the no-PvP death penalty to clear their stomach and get a free set of instant food uses.

Im trying to see if we can reverse this decision.
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Uhm

Clear effects on death/clone as well?
MonroeThanes
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:38 pm
#86


OH and another request about merchant vendors.Could there be a check put inplace that if the vendor has not had items added to it within X days (i think 30 days is plenty) then the vendor would be deleted? The excess maint in the vendor could be transfered back into the players bank account or just considered a loss.Im reallygetting sick of empty vendors cluttering the map, people made them while hologrinding or tried to start a business that failed but the empty vendors are still there.



Please do NOT read that im asking for vendor maint to be increased, im asking for empty and unused vendors to be removed after a considerable length of time. Think of ATMs that have been out of paper money to dispense for a month, it belongs to someone but they obviously dont care about running their business so it should be removed (sorry, but its the only annalogy i could think of, its been a long day).



Can we get some elaboration on the new jedi system? maybe you could start an 'In Development' thread? seems like a good way to use the new forum setup. It is not unreasonable for us to want some more information on the "main character becomes FS" rather than having a second slot, since many many people created twileks for social gaming or mon cals for crafting (i did) but do not want to be a jedi in those species. my jedi now is zabrak, what happens to him with the changes?


Please answer this, the jedi forums are filling up with petitions against the new system or posts praising the newsystem when really all we know is that one line that shouldnt have been spoken. I believe this very strongly, if you didnt intend to elaborate on such a large and fundamental change, then it shouldnt have been mentioned, but its too late now, its out there, we need some information.


Maybe you could open the thread so we can have a part in the development, get a chance to put those ideas infront of a bunch of different people (not just the dev team) so that if there is a problem or a wishlist item it wont get added or excluded. Would be great to avoid wasted development time in a bad change (read crafting nerf here) or if there is content that could be easily added to the new system.


I suggest the "InDevelopment" forum because, as should be made clear with the thread, that any of this stuff is subject to change.


Please dont leave the players out of a drastic change and please stop the madness on the jedi forums, its bad enough already and getting worse as hysteria builds.



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MonroeThanes
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:43 pm
#87





heres an idea TH-

respond to the valid posts, not the worthless blank ones, good community relations here folks



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MonroeThanes
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:44 pm
#88

and why do i get the message that i cant post HTML tags when im trying to quote your idiocy?


by idiocy i mean responding to blank posts



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bloudhunter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:54 pm
#89

OHMSS225 wrote:

TH, I understand that it's intended for stomachs not to empty on death. We would all like to understand the reasoning behind this, as we're having a little trouble understanding the logic.

Please don't ignore this. We would all love an explanation for this and we'll ask as many times as we have to.
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thunder heart wrote

I posted the reason in last week's thread. The reason for not clearing the stomach on clone is that not all foods are buffs. Several of them are instant effects (heals, etc.) If you allow the stomach to clear on clone then players can duel and use the no-PvP death penalty to clear their stomach and get a free set of instant food uses.

Im trying to see if we can reverse this decision.
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sorry i dont know how to quote a post.

I would really like to have some fix.
one idea i have is after death have the stomach start a 5 min timer or something, i play a doctor/tk and i eat mind food so that i can be self sufficent in PvE but if im doing something tough and die right after i eat mind food im screwed until my stomach empties.

i personally hate down time. i play to play not to sit here and wait for stomach to emptie or the shuttle to get here or what ever else someone comes up with to make me sit here and twittle my thumbs. every time i get to a shuttle and it takes off as im clicking on the droid i log out and dont play anymore that day. one of these days sony will quit getting my $30 a month that i pay for my 2 accounts.



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Tavian_McMaster
Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:59 pm
#90






Tavian_McMaster wrote:


Any response to this petition?
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=313455&page=22


You'd think after 22 pages, someone would grace us with their presence.








Still no reply huh? Maybe this will make a dent...


There's about 20 signs per page on 22 pages of thread.

That means 440 paying customers have asked you do something, or at least respond to their problems with information.

That roughly equates to $6,000 a month worth of customers that have objected to a proposed change.


Please, for the love of god... we need dialog. You wanted more communication, and yet threads run on and on with no word from the devs. Why should we feel like you give a damn?




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Gron_DM
Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:06 pm
#91

hey what about pub 8 droids??? we need some notice please





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