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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor

Firetracker
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:08 am
#79






JymTarr wrote:





jd2134 wrote:

the only way i would give my blessing to this is if it was only wearable by master bh, like how the certs for blasters are done. face it in the books it stats that fett tracks down those that have this armor. Maybe that can be another way to keep the numbers down by giving the bh count which if they surpass causes fatt to spawn and attack them. at which point the player is killed or he drives fett off; this would also add a nice feature to bh as they could sqaure off against fett


nagyt








Last time I'm saying this mandalorian Armor is NOT bounty hunter armor, it is Armor worn by ONE in particular bounty hunter (yeah one. Jango and Boba are the same person pretty much)


Mandalorians were soldiers. Mandalorian armor being only useable by bounty hunters would not make sense.







This argument has no merit. There is no reason why A commando should not use an LLC - its just a heavy weapon. But in this world there are artificial limits to what a profession can and cannot usefor differentiation. Making the armour only usable by certain professions fits this.


That bogus argument aside, restricting the armour to those people who might be "expected" to wear it is very reasonable. I don't even want to see non-humans wearing this armour, I just dont exped greedo's smuggling brother to turn up in a full set of this armour. I doubt it will be race restricted (pity) but it should be profession restricted to heavy weapon weilding classes i.e. BH and Commando.


I am a Weaponsmith/Rifleman and I do not expect to be able to wear this armour. I have no axe to grind other than making the game look somewhat "starwarsy" - whether that is "logical" or not seems to be beside the point. I play this game for its Starwars feel not for its logical gameplay and rules (and I would have a hard time justifying any rules in this game based on logic or Star Wars film/gaming history).


DarthDaver2
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:11 am
#80

This should definitely be a MBH only item. In that vein, you should also make other suits of armor/outfits that only a master of a profession could wear. It would be nice to see different armor than compoosite everywhere for a change. I feel like I'm in an episode of multiplicity when I go to the starport. Either that or in Attack of the composite clones.

-DD
Ackan111
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:11 am
#81






RemoMoxey wrote:

I'm torn on this one. I would like to see this ingame, BUT........lol. I think this armor will actually suck (Boba was the BADA$$, not the armor). If they make it as good as composite EVERYONE will have a set. If it's not as good everyone will still use composite.


This should be a rare drop, not schematics. Weapon and armorsmiths have been getting all the love since launch (they have not been broken or gimped as Chefs and DEs have been).







Your obviously not a armorsmith or a weaponsmith.. Dont be fooled by what you dont see.. As an armorsmith and a weaponsmith i can tell you right now, i have many useless and broken schematics.



glory
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:11 am
#82

There was plenty or rare, uber, hard to attain jewelry, tailored items and other crafted items in Everquest, yet players got it and when they did, they never again purchased items from the crafters. Only baked goods seem to be in demand by the higher level players and this was because food did not drop.



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Ke_la
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:13 am
#83

Boba Fett was a Bounty Hunter Mandalorians weren't. It would make no sense that only bounty Hunters or commandoes could wear this armor. I see nothing in either tree hinting that they are more skilled in wearing a certain type of armor.




Mandalorians where mercanaries (comandos) so that is why comandos should beable to wair them. As you said Boba used is so bounty hunters should be able to where it. In ALL of star wars INCLUDING EU there have only been3 people who have worn mandalorian armor that were not Mandalorians Boba Fett, Jango Fett (probly the same suit), and Thrawn Impersonating a bouny hunter(tales from the Empire). That is it 3 BHs. That is why BHs should beable to where it. Also in the desciption of the armor alot of the Weopon Systems Boba used where PART of the armor and the ONLY 2 classes that can use more then one type of weopon(without joining another class) is the BHs and Comandos.


As far as looting the armor not hurting crafters I would have to say that your completly wrong espcally if it can be worn by everyone. If all I have to do is complete a quest no matter how hard it is I will eventually complet it and I get Free armor. Also with crafting you get MORE Options. I have a question for you, if they make armor loot only like alot of the people here seem to want do you really want to see 20 -50 boba fetts or worst jango fetts walking around or would you prefure to have your own custom colored suit. Well suit coloring is done DURRING crafting soif you remove crafting you lose the ablity to costomize the suit, and why does it have to be a schemadic could it just be "Damaged Mandolorian Bracer" where you just need some reasouces to repair it. You get the looted armor and the "Multi-millionair" Armor Smiths arnen't forced out of business. BTW I bet you got as much money as they do, remember all there money CAME FROM YOU, and if you want some of it back get into reasouce mining. I also don't think there that rich when I see people geting 10+ creds per unit of Reasouce and it take well over 5000 Reasuces to make a Droid. I bet a full suit of armor is worst. BTW the math on that means that is COSTS the DE 50k JUST to make the droid, so if they sell it for 65k they made 15k or the same as MAYBE 3 BH missions (depening on planet) I have heard of a guy getting a 27k mission just a week or so ago. And lets not forget the Crafters Time comentment. It take me a 1/2 an hour to make the Final Build On one droid. If I include all the subcomponace I had to make and the Reasouces I had to gather I would bet the amout of time it takes to make one droid start to finnish is proble 3 or 4 hours. How many missions can you do in that time? I bet your total credits made from mission would be higher then 15k. I bet it would be higher then the 65k some have charged.




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Ke_la
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:15 am
#84

2. It is rather crappy when you loot a uber schematic and have to give it to a Weapon/Armorsmith to craft only to find out they alos want to chage you 3mil credits to buy what it makes....




Have you tried bringing BOTH the Schemadic and the Reasouces required to make it?




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Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

GenocideYtow
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:23 am
#85



NoxDenosis wrote:

Also Shung S E R I O U S L Y, this going out of the way to get armor smiths to craft stuff is getting out of hands. They are already billionares . Adding a F E W uber weapons/armor to the game would be FINE

I serisouly do not think rewarding us with a schem for armorsmiths to make us MANDALORIAN armor ,a way to make this story of getting this armor well decent.

Id rather see long multi tiered hard quests that reward you handsomly with a full DECENT suit...and not just some schem its just plain blah to be rewarded by these people with ANOTHER schem

Last time I checked anything good in this game is made, you dont find uber weapons/armor you gotta find parts and then craft it.

Rewarding us with a suit for LONG LONG LONG HARD WORK is not going to kill the community




I totally agree with this



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Ke_la
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:23 am
#86

Money isn't a big deal to crafter's because like many, are rich. However, many of us who play pure combat classes cannot afford these losses and our money only comes when infact we do PvE and find the ocassional "uber loot".






I have an Idea DO MISSIONS and charge for the extra charges on the schemadic. Also did you supply the OTHER uber hard to get reasouces that may not have been on your surver in good quality for months. Second you can EASILY make 100k in an hours "work" doing missions. An Artisin may spend ALL DAY running around Dathmore(remember they have alot less combate then you do) surveying for that specal Dathmorinan Fibarplast that is Required to make the armor. You CAN easily survive Dathmore most Artisans can't.




Ke'la Korian, Waylon Korien, Me'na Korien
Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

Ke_la
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:26 am
#87

Money isn't a big deal to crafter's because like many, are rich. However, many of us who play pure combat classes cannot afford these losses and our money only comes when infact we do PvE and find the ocassional "uber loot".






I have an Idea DO MISSIONS and charge for the extra charges on the schemadic. Also did you supply the OTHER uber hard to get reasouces that may not have been on your surver in good quality for months. Second you can EASILY make 100k in an hours "work" doing missions. An Artisin may spend ALL DAY running around Dathmore(remember they have alot less combate then you do) surveying for that specal Dathmorinan Fibarplast that is Required to make the armor. You CAN easily survive Dathmore most Artisans can't. I would like to see you spend a day on a planet looking of a high consintration of a specific type of copper, set your mine down, and then have it shift on you the next day forcing you to startover and then say that Artsins don't earn there money. Oh, and this is assuming you had already spent an hour or so reading the Artisin boards to find out what planet the reasouce your looking for is on.




Ke'la Korian, Waylon Korien, Me'na Korien
Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

Ke_la
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:31 am
#88



you know, instead of continualy adding new content, ie. mandolorian armor, you should fix what is wrong w/ the game now. adding a new dungeon like this is going to be the exact same as the geonosian dungeon.





I belive he said it will be Instanced like the new corvet will be. once your in there you get one hour to do it then thats it start over with new people. One group enters at a time. so unless you let griffers in your group there won't be that problem




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Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

WarNerve5776
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:38 am
#89

I'm not too sure this is a good idea. They should make it so that only Master Bounty Hunters can have it or something. Otherwise there will be hundreds of boba Fett look alikes running around the servers. Bogus.



Baiyne
GenocideYtow
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:39 am
#90

Smart armorsmiths (at least, the richer ones) take bodyguards or high-HAM bio-engineered non-CH pets with them. And most artisan elites have enough skillpoints to spend on combat skills.
And why take your "uber-1337" Mandalorian armor to some low-lvl armorsmith when you can give/sell them to an armorsmith with extra experimentation points, good resources etc. and ask if you can have 1 full suit if he's done?

Usually those guys are the richest on the server with, like a gazillion credits T_T
I also find that the game could use more special content. I'll bet that all of the new dungeons will be so much harder than the Geonosian Bunker. Just look at the Corellian Corvette. It's almost impossible to complete that one on your own!
New dungeons encourage teamwork. If the final mission or boss rewards every teammember of the team who deals the most damage to the boss or completes the mission with that armor (or with one piece of the armor and the other pieces require other missions and bosses) it wouldn't harm the economy.
Besides, most server economies have highly inflated prices. Try surviving as a newbie on a new server now without having to buy millions of credits on a certain auctionwebsite or from a friend ingame!



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WarNerve5776
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:42 am
#91

Perhaps is should be a quest that only Master BH can partake. It shouldn't be a schematic either,it should be actual armor drops. No normal Armorsmith would be able to make Mandalorian armor. This armor needs to be uber..and uber rare. A heck of alot rarer than Jedi even.



Baiyne
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