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TH, if you want to please both halfs of the rifleman community, why not make 2 seperate rifle professions.

As it is now we are the only elite profession that uses rifles.

Carbines have two professions carbineer and BH.

Pistols have 3 professions Pistoleer, Smuggler, and BH.

Why not Split the curent Sharpshooter profession in two?

1) Will be Gunner = It will consist of our AOE shots, speed, and heavy damage.

2)Will be sniper = It will consist of our mind damaging shots, great accuracy, stealth or great defence(maybe not making us dissapear on radar but making us a blue dot)

I know this is probably an unlikely solution but it can appease both sides of our profession.

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PyscoJuggalo wrote:

TH, if you want to please both halfs of the rifleman community, why not make 2 seperate rifle professions.

As it is now we are the only elite profession that uses rifles.

Carbines have two professions carbineer and BH.

Pistols have 3 professions Pistoleer, Smuggler, and BH.

Why not Split the curent Sharpshooter profession in two?

1) Will be Gunner = It will consist of our AOE shots, speed, and heavy damage.

2)Will be sniper = It will consist of our mind damaging shots, great accuracy, stealth or great defence(maybe not making us dissapear on radar but making us a blue dot)

I know this is probably an unlikely solution but it can appease both sides of our profession.

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Or just have specialised weaponry?

Rifles that only work for the Sniping type ablilities ( Concealshot, Headshot1-2-3, SniperShot,Mindshot1-2etc...) in the concealment / sniping lines

Rifles that only work with the Gunner type abilities ( Flushing1-2, Flurry1-2, Strafe1-2,Startleshot1-2etc...) in the Countersniping / Special abilities lines

Though two professions would be prettysweet also.

Yeah because you wouldn't use an m60 or saw to sniper someone from a long distance. You use them to mow them all down at a closer range. So t-21 wouldn't be a good sniper weapon. Give us a new "sniper rifle" insane damage, even more insane speed like 12+ something that at master sharpshooter you won't shoot every 1.5 seconds. That is if you plan on keeping/enhancing the 2 trees that are dedicated to being a sniper.

Exactly, don't change the skills hell we just finally got most of them working after all, fix our defenses since block is screwy and melee seems broken. Fix the other professions since you can't compare a wholeto a half, or in some cases even less then that. Limit our special options with certain guns, and give us some interesting new guns. (example-Xerrol Nightstinger sniper rifle, only used by imperial crack snipers it fires invisible bolts to help frame the suspect or get an impossible to trace kill. In game, master rank weapon that fires white bolts just to add more color to the fights.)

Could maybe also add timer bonus + to hit for each 5-10 secs a rifleman remains prone and cap it off a +50 or something. This would encourage more sniping and less run and shoot.

I got down to Waste93's post (the one in green on the first page). I would just like to let Waste93 know that the definition of a rifle in this game is much different than one in RL. A rifle in real life might represent the M82A1A Anti-vehicle sniper rifle. The weapon that the basic infantry of the U.S. military uses is the m16A1 Carbine. The carbineer should be the one used to provide suppressive fire. The rifleman, used in the rear lines or in buildings to shoot at specific threats and allow for a more effective means of quick enemy elimination. The carbineers (in-game) would work as basic infantry providing suppressive fire (inaccurate yet concentrated fire to drive the enemy down into hiding to allow for troops to move safely), while the snipers would act in counter-sniper missions and more or less scouting (therefore a rifleman/ranger would be a suitable profession for todays definition of a real sniper).

Your post, otherwise, was very nice

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Gwee-Godo wrote:

fix carbineers and pistoleers so they are on par with rifles.

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If you can think of another way then to intitute a speed cap I'm sure the devs will hear it....but all of you just keep saying fix the other classes blah blah blah without actually saying how, I'm willing to bet you can't think of a way that makes sense(outside of the speed cap) ....rifles already do 3x more damage then pistols (on average), so slowing them down to 1/3 of a pistol's speed evens it out. And as someone else said earlier, the speed cap wouldn't hurt riflemen in PvP since you have conceal, which lets you remain hidden for a long time against most targets. So if you can't conceal yourself and still be able to takeout a target then you're taking on stuff that you shouldn't be able to solo anyways and then this is a good change for PvE too.

er PvE for conceal*

I agree with Waste93 on every point. I would say that I hardly pvp so the snipershot command is basically wasted on me. I would really love to see the surprise and startle shots removed and two new commands given. One would give us the equivilent of a ranged knockdown and the other would add to our renown as precision snipers.

the commands could be /aim2 and 3 with dmg lvl and bonus to hit increased respectively and full auto suppression fire, which should require a t21 and a 20 second setup that would place you in the prone position. Once there you could use full auto and all other commands repeatedly but once you move or changed stance, you would have to restart the 20 second timer. I really like the idea that Waste93 describes of the assault riflemen who suppress the opponent and force them down for the meleers.

Other than that I feel our class is great as it is. My only beef would be that the differences in firing range bonuses be change to better reflect the difference in weapons. If a restriction on the pistol to 45m and carbines to 55m needs to be there then so be it. Something to differentiate us some more.

Someone mentioned this earlyer, But change conceal and startle to health and action bleeds, if not a powerfull shot, at least the ability to bleed would be nice, not everybody PVE's and not everyone PVP's so we have to find a happy middle, rifleman is good as it is right now, With the exception of some of the specials and titles,The damage types on some weapons still need to be changed(t21 back to blast, spraystick to acid, tusken to kinetic), and there are a few glitches with range in pvp, But mainly if you fix the specials that only 10% of people use, it will make the class very well rounded for support

Fact is you dont see the speed limit hit untill you get to master, you see no big specials untill then, and thats how it should be.