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Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Rennard7074
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:08 pm
#742



Craxus wrote:


CharPrime wrote:


Craxus wrote:
TH and Devs.
3. People who did squat for a year, then 2 days ago went and got badges. I have no patiences for this type. YOu knew a year ago to grind professions yet you didn't do it. You waited for a quest based system, you got it and you still complain cause you have to take more time to get what you want. This makes zero sense. If you knew to get a jedi you needed to grind you should have started the grinding. Why did you wait? Cause you thought it would be handed to you on a platter?

so accomplishments in this game is just about badges and grinding professions? jezz looks like i been playing my professions to its fullest is none in your eyes


IT nothing in my eyes.

You have been playing you profession to the fullest. Good why be a Jedi then. If you wanted a Jedi you gave up the right to play your profession to the fullest.

This is nothing but whining.

IT's like someone tells you if you want to be buff you need to go to the gym everyday to be buff. As a response you tell them no Ill wait for steriods to be legalized.

Then as you siit and do nothing that would actually get you to your GOAL, others go to the gym and work out, and guess what? Their buff!!!!

So finally the day comes and they legalize Steriods, but guess what you still have to work out some to get benifits and it still takes time. So you complain so more.

Sorry, but it is disgusting to hear people whime cause they don't get what they want right now. The arguement I paid 15 bucks a month to play this game I should ahve a Jedi for doing nothing it is pointless.

You knew that getting a Jedi would be hard and time consuming last year. before the game came out, and now you complain?

I don't get it. You should have holo grinded, you were dumb to stop, why play your profession to its "fullest" when your just going to drop it for a Jedi anyway?

The point: You can't have your cake and eat it too!







The hologrind was assinine. This is a RPG not a grind-as-many-professions-as-you-can game. It was a stupid stupid way to do anything. I actually play the game. That is not "doing squat". I am willing to bet that I have been more places and seen and done more things in this game than you have ever thought about. I found pois before they were on the data pads. I did the rebel theme park when the best thing you got was Ackbar's stupid flight suit. Dont even think that because you did however many profs in a timeframe that you are some kind of power player or 133t player. You are not.



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Stryydon
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:09 pm
#743

Account canceled & CD's shattered.

Shame on you SOE.



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station1
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:09 pm
#744






Thunderheart wrote:






As the number of Jedi increased on the servers, we increased the required number of hidden boxes.





And infuriated many customers in the process! Disturbing this is. There was even a big debate on this, as some players suspected as much. I was one of the lucky ones who unlocked relatively early, but this is still unacceptable to me. There were many other ways available to stop the jedi explosion. Deceiving customers = not good.


This of course, makes us question how many more "surprises" we can expect to only hear aboutmonths afterwords.

OrangeLawrence
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:10 pm
#745

TH- Where is the answer to everyones question. IF YOU ARE GLOWING, CAN YOU EXPECT A VISIT FROM THE OLD MAN IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS OR ARE WE BEING SHOVED TO THE BACK OF THE PACK. ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST BEEN PLAYING THE GAME GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE HOLOGRINDERS TO FINISH OR ARE WE GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO VISIT THE VILLAGE SOON? Please answer this question. It seems you are avoiding a large number of us.



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Shaladim
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:10 pm
#746








When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down. Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man.






If I read this correctly, you can jump the queue by qualifying under the new system even if you are in Group 4 in the old system. This hopefully explains why I am glowing despite having done only 10 proffs (I grinded up to silent). Not had an old man visit yet, but then I have only been in-game tonight for 45 minutes or so.


BTW: I have over 75 badges to date. The only badges I dont have are the rebel themepark, all of the race track badges, all of the corvette badges and those proffs I have yet to master.

Message Edited by Shaladim on 09-01-2004 02:11 AM

BaronPwent
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:11 pm
#747




If you have… You will be granted access to the village…
No professions remaining:Automatically qualify
1 profession remaining: Automatically qualify
2 professions remaining: Group 1
3 professions remaining: Group 2
4 professions remaining: Group 3
5 professions remaining: Group 4


This is a bunch of bull. I'm glowing with the force already, but I won't be able to get to the village for several weeks possibly even monthsas I wait for "traffic" to die down?!?


I'm so annoyed right now, I can't even express it in words. I've been sitting around for the past month or two just waiting for patch 10 so I'd actually have something new to do, some goal to actually work toward. Now, I've got to sit around and try to occupy myself for several more weeks or months waiting for other ppl to get through the village. This is simply unacceptable. You add new content but tell people that even though its in the gamethey can't get to it unless they basically wait around for a month or more?


I can understand not wanting the village to be crowded and whatnot. But so the hell what? It might end up being crowded but at least you would have players enjoying themselves instead of being pissed off while they basically wait in line for access.


I didn't think it was possible, but this is worse than the hologrinding implementation. At least with the hologrind, players had something to do and felt like they were making progress. With the village, players are just sitting around waiting for their turn. Waiting for all the other people to grind through the ridiculous amount of xp needed for force sensitive skills.


You don't want people advancing too quickly through the village so you gate them with the 4 quest phases. You don't want too many people to get access to the village to quickly so you gate everyone with this access limit. How many time sinks can you stack before you're players get fed up with it?


The absolute worse part of this - the players don't even know when they will actually qualify for the visit from the old man now. /check may show a player as glowing, but depending on their professions remaining they may be sitting around for a good long while. Its bad enough the devs decided to change to profs needed to unlock without telling the players, but now they change access to the village at the last minute too. This is just unacceptable.


May the force be with you.....well I checked andthe force is indeed with me, I'm glowing with the stuff.....too bad some stupid old man and some ass backwards designers can't see that. Hologrind, FRS, and now this - how many poor implementations can SWG handle? Better question is how many poorly designed systems can the players handle before leaving? MxO and WoW are looking pretty good at this point.

Message Edited by BaronPwent on 08-31-2004 06:19 PM



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Zabrekk
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:12 pm
#748

The most common question has still not been answered.....


"I am 'glowy' when I logged in today. Which group am I in?"


/begs


Please answer that one question. It is all about expectations, if you set the expectation people will know where they stand.



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Walwyn
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:12 pm
#749

TH its a real shame we can't believe whatyou or any of the Dev's ever say again.


That said how about you at least give me an answer that sounds reasonable to this question:


PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR ORIGINAL POST. In it you said/implied that if you were to get to the point of being glowy in the new system that you would get an immediate visit from the stranger, however in the same post you stated that there would be group based upon your hologrindage. So what if you did both? You hologrinded a few professions, but you are also FULLY GLOWLY under the new System?


By your post it sounds like I should have already gotten a visit from the old geazer. However, after being online for the better part of the day no joy.


Please elaborate on those two factors that are contradictory in your original post.


Thank you,

ReptileSpit
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:12 pm
#750






ReptileSpit wrote:

Everybody complaining about not being visited by the old man the second you logged in today or complaining that you're not in group 1 and threatening to quit.....please do us all a favor and quit already.


Letting PCs be able to play as Jedi in this game has been the single biggest mistake the devs ever made.








I mean seriously.....imagine just for a moment if there were no PC Jedi in this game.


Just think of all the real content, finished professions, hell even the combat balance that the devs could have put in the game all this time instead of wasting the last 6 months working on almost nothing except revamping Jedi?


What a huge waste of time and resources.

Jaida-Chilastra
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:13 pm
#751






ReptileSpit wrote:





ReptileSpit wrote:

Everybody complaining about not being visited by the old man the second you logged in today or complaining that you're not in group 1 and threatening to quit.....please do us all a favor and quit already.


Letting PCs be able to play as Jedi in this game has been the single biggest mistake the devs ever made.








I mean seriously.....imagine just for a moment if there were no PC Jedi in this game.


Just think of all the real content, finished professions, hell even the combat balance that the devs could have put in the game all this time instead of wasting the last 6 months working on almost nothing except revamping Jedi?


What a huge waste of time and resources.







If this game was how you explained it. I would be playing something else.

HEGEWIZARD
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:14 pm
#752

What about the few that chose to be master crafters and not grinders???



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Staronator
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:14 pm
#753

TH Stated


Unlockers post pub9 go out into the Wilderness you will be visited Shortly


I have been on ALL Day and have been Everywhere NO VISIT .. I'm now Running from City to City on Tatoonie.


I Unlock WHY the F**K am I doing this please for the love of God .. I hate this the same as EQ now but this is the Lesser of the 2 evils.


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Manesni2
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:15 pm
#754


My feedback? You've utterly failed your job TH. It was immensily obvious to the dev team you were going to instigate the gating of the Old Man but not once did you mention something along the lines of what you had done. You let people build theirhopes up for publish day only to find out hours later that there was absolutely NOTHING for them to do. Can you give a reason why a week ago someone couldnt have taken 2 minutes to post about it? I wouldnt have minded at all the wait had I know built up my expectation only to have them dashed entirely. Can you even admit that you make a terrible mistake? Or will you come up with somethingabout being busy withthe summit meeting andit was "passed over and forgotten"?



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