Development Cycle Archive

Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Aki44
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:50 pm
#716

And again TH, you dont tell us how we can know in what group we are, Thx !


I'm glowy, does that mean I m in the first round of player allowed in ?



Leeloo
Colonel of the Rebel Alliance
Member of Truth 'n' Justice
unclecrock
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:53 pm
#717

well i'm rdy to hit the cancel button and come back in 4 months once the village has cleared out. When i made my character I decided i would actually roleplay my prof race and gender. Becuase i'm a role player. I've had my account since the day of lauch.


When i found out that you had to holo grind to get jedi I canceled my account because i read into the jedi system that it was gonna be for role players not power gamers. All i wanted to be was a Jedi like the box siad i could be.


Well recently after reading that the jedi system was being changed i re-activated my account waiting in anticipation for today when I could quest for my Jedi. Low and behold i'm dealt another blow becuase now you say i have to stand in line behind power gamers. Now i defintely believe they should get credit for there work i'm not saying that at all. but eveyone if they acheive the inner glow should have access to the old man period.


If you are worried about lag and server crashes well you should have put the village in a cave and made it an instanced location. So i'll see you guys in 4 months once i can actually have access to the village and i'll save my 60 bucks. I hope the rest of the true role players who want to be jedi do the same and hit SoE where it hurts in there pocket book. Maybe if they actually lose 25% of there player base over this they'll make some changes.
SharkBoy007
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:53 pm
#718






Raverbane wrote:

Ok, I am rereading this post. it is amazing how lawyer-ese you devs can get in your posts. Maybe I am just slow. but, I will ask in plain english. For those of us that didnt hologrind. But we did do enough badges to get our 'inner glow'. We will have to wait for an indeterminate amount of time to for the old man to visit us? Or to be able to get into the village? Does this mean we have to sit around for an unknown number of hours or days with no real idea of whne this is going to happen? And why werent we told of this before? if we had been informed. Many of us might have not taken the day off to play. If you had spread this word a few days ago. you might not have the 'traffic' issue that you now seem to claim you are going to have. It isnt like this is a last minute thing. The length of this post and the depth of the situation obviously shows this was planned for sometime.







Because if they had bothered to mention this, the only sound you'd hear is the wind blowing through empty streets, as millions of wallets suddenly were silenced. These bastards knew exactly what they were doing, and it WAS FOR THE MONEY!! Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and desrves to be kicked in the head! Well, we all got played like suckers, so I guess in the end, we ALL deserve to be kicked in the head


Devs and SOE: Is it too much to ask for at least a kiss after you screw us like this?




Mox Shehalis
Former Unit Commander, Phoenix Rising (RIP 15 Nov 2005)
I AM A MORE THAN A DOLLAR SIGN, I AM A HUMAN BEING WHO DECIDED TO SPEND HIS SPARE CASH AND TIME IN A WONDERFUL GALAXY FAR AWAY.
NiteFlyX
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:54 pm
#719






Thunderheart wrote:







kardia wrote:
TH I have a question for you, what about the people that already unlocked do they automatically qualitfy or should they be waiting like the other groups.




You automatically qualify. Hang out in the wilderness and you will be visited in a short period of time. The old man will visit you in the wilderness and send you on a quest.






So what about those who are glowing? Do they 'qualify'? How long do the people who are glowing, yet are not grinders, have to wait? Even an approximate would be fine..



Kayra21
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:55 pm
#720

I did 32 professions, got the unlock message 10 days ago, I am not glowing. what gives?


Its too bad this lying (yes, I remember the thread in publish 6 about unlocking "nothing has changed"), has wrecked the mood for other sony games. EQ2 looked good too. oh well.
Spike7913
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:55 pm
#721



NiteFlyX wrote:


Thunderheart wrote:


kardia wrote:
TH I have a question for you, what about the people that already unlocked do they automatically qualitfy or should they be waiting like the other groups.

You automatically qualify. Hang out in the wilderness and you will be visited in a short period of time. The old man will visit you in the wilderness and send you on a quest.


So what about those who are glowing? Do they 'qualify'? How long do the people who are glowing, yet are not grinders, have to wait? Even an approximate would be fine..





and what's a short period of time, 3 days?



Skippy

yup, back to oasis



Rennard7074
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:56 pm
#722



Agenor666 wrote:


ZelousShadow wrote:

TH I got to say I think your the only thing that holds this community to this game, the Devs have lost themselves and your the only one keeping this chunk of the MMO market believing in your DEV team and from looking for a new game.

I am most upset with this decision, fine if you want to give credit to Holo Grinders for grinding Professions trying to hit their "5 professions" they deserve it.

Cheating us into thinking that there were fewer professions to "Unlock" on than there really was is not fine. Setting the limit for credit due only to Holo Credits is not fine, People who have spent their time grinding any profession should not be more valuable than time people spent grinding the secret professions. This by no means penalizing Holo-Grinders in fact its the opposite, you get credit for ALL the time you put into the game, not the time you got lucky on.

Its understandable you want to slow the Jedi population growth, but raising the secret unlocks and then taking out the Holo's Hints penalizing newer players, or players that didn't capitalize on the opportunity, is not fine. I didn't take the opportunity to find or buy holocrons to determine my professions, I just grinded 10 professions and said, Logic I've got about 1/3 of the total professions, that should give me 1 or two tree's. Or at least put me some where into way of your quest system. Instead all the time I poured into this game is absolutely meaningless. The Time I wasted over the past several months being worthless is NOT FINE.

But to go ahead and say, Hey Guess what, we've taken two publishes and several months to put in this new Jedi system, and all this new content that YOU CAN'T ACCESS! Is by no means acceptable. I like every other paying customer pay the same amount of money, and dedicate what time I can. I Bought this game at launch, I followed this game for years before launch, and Still I'm treated like crap, it doesn't make a difference that I've dedicated time for an entire year, or I've paid your subscription for an Entire year, You've taken my money with a smile, and coaxed me into believing things that weren't true.

Even with the Correspondence Summit, we still know nothing, yet you've taken the time to convince the 20 some odd people who we BELIEVED were on our side into saying the same thing you've been saying for years, yet they won't show us any proof That my friends is BULL**edit**, I don't care how true it is or how much you believe in it.

You can keep telling this fan base to keep waiting, but what you really mean is keep PAYING.

The Fact of the matter is your losing customers; with each of these posts more people cancel their accounts, and the longer you wait the more competition your going to get for these people. The Difference between this game and the ones on the horizon, People don't believe in you any more, you've failed to harness the "Vision" Where as these games still have their vision, they know their better than you at launch. Some people will stay, some people will come back.

Let me give you a little Line up of Our Horizon,

I want you to keep these things in mind when your thinking of what you can get away with.

Internet Gamming in the world of Massive Multiplayer Online Games IS A DRUG, and if you can't give us the Fix we need, WE WILL FIND SOMETHING STRONGER!

The Game City of Hero's is growing strong, and is arguable one of the Best MMO's to date, The Subscription base is 180,000 ACTIVE members(at the start of august), AND Happy Customers! I can't imagine these people having more than one account, the average SWG player has 2 accounts or more, recently you've boasted 500,000 members yet you won't mention if these are active members, or if these number count the players who have 2,3,4, or even 5 accounts. (And to Clarify, Those with multiple accounts don't have them because they love the game, they have them because one character is not enough to enjoy SWG) http://www.cityofheroes.com/

Next in line is Worlds of Warcraft, which may not be the revolutionary new game everybody thinks it is, but will deliver the service that people believe in. You can consider a good chunk of your market leaving for this game on the Spot, not counting the continuing to dwindle numbers. http://www.blizzard.com/wow/

Now Beyond that we have Guild Wars, which promises to take interactions of guilds an environments to the next level, sporting top of the line graphics and game play, is also nearing completion. http://www.guildwars.com/

Wish promises to stimulate 100,000s of thousands of players on one server, AND have a live story team that will make the game not about being the strongest player, but evolving an actual plot. Story Something that SWG can, and will not have, you've made it very clear that the way Lucas arts operates that progressing a story in the game is nigh high impossible, despite the amount of books and content written about the time periods. They may claim that they are a revolution but their nothing compared to this next game. http://www.mutablerealms.com/

Atriarch

Maybe you've heard of it, maybe you haven't it all but disappeared due to a lawsuit 2 years ago, but its back in action.

You want to claim that your core system is good, that your water effects are realistic but their not. Atriarch Boasts REAL Physics Engine that includes Gravity, Friction, Weather Patterns, Seasons, Even Astrological Cycle with its 3 moons. Not to mention Actual Deformable Terrain.

As if that weren’t enough, the players like wish will be consolidated on one server supporting hundreds of thousands of people. The Landmass of this game world?

Total Surface Area: ~1,766,250 km2 (~682,000 miles2), Diameter: ~750 km (~450 miles)

There’s So much I could tell you about this game that would blow your mind, but here is the kicker...

Persistent Characters - Whether you have 1 hour a week or 20 hours a week to play Atriarch, your character will always have the opportunity to make progress, even when you are offline. You no longer need to worry about your friends passing you up just because you don't have as much time to play as someone else. Practice skills, gather resources, travel, or decide to play it safe. The choice is yours.

Maybe you don't know it, but the original market SWG was trying to tap was that of the casual gamer that doesn't have the time that a 9 or 13 year old has, and still be able to keep up. Those Casual gamers leaving the SWG experience because they cannot keep up with the power players will inevitable find themselves here. http://www.atriarch.com/news/news.html

Good Luck Starwars Galaxies, I hope you've got a Hell of an Expansion on the way, or your just not going to cut it. I ask you besides Jedi and Spaceships? What do you REALLY have? Star Wars is not a new experince, I can get what you offer from any Star Wars Game.



Im not articulate enough to say what you did, so i'll quote you instead as thats the best post I have read here so far. I'm having to use an alt account as evil mods deleted and banned my mains rantings and by the looks of this post a lot of other people are in the same boat as me!
Back to topic, way to go DEV's you really know how to keep your veteran players happy, I have mastered 11 profs have done all but the Corvette theme parks (which when I last went there impossible to do with bugged SBD's running through walls and multiplying faster than the amount of account cancellations your experincing at this current time)and have all the POI's. Today expected to log in hoping to see that I would eventually get a visit from the old man. Certainly did not expect him to turn up in days for me but probably weeks, however it turns out he will never visit my char as I get a "barely" when /check..... is typed. What kind of rubbish is this? What the heck am I supposed to do now, another pointless raid on the corvette? grind more profs, Kiss more developer *** pray tell! At the moment im thinking why bother anymore with this game (played since July 27th 2003) (and if you bother to read the posts here you will see 90% of the community feel the same) SOE have caused a lot of damage to customer relations today and I for one cannot see how you can reapir the damage and discontent among your already waining veteran account base.
W.O.W. comes out soon so many will switch and no cheap 14 day trial will be able to fix the demise of a game I have loved so much for so long






Amen. I am in exactly the same boat. I have done EVERYTHING except the corvette. Nym, reb and imp theme parks, Jabba's theme park. Every POI... What the hell else do I have to do. Oh I also grinded 3 holos but I guess those dont count. Add me to the list of VERY VERY unhappy customers. Hey does anyone know when WOW comes out. I am about done here...



Rennard Flamestrike
Master Pikeman
Imperial Pilot
LOC


Rhayven
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:56 pm
#723

Can anyone (or TH, i would prefer TH) confirm if the old man has visited any of the post 9 unlockers today? Just want to know if he is even out and about.


Thanks and Good luck everyone!


Rhayven Darkwater



Rhayven Darkwater/Rhaithbacca



DarkwaterArmor
Closed Indefinitely

Redfenril
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:56 pm
#724

TH


Question: What about those who have done all but the silent profession.


A friend of mine has done this, but he is not glowly. He is in the same position I am. WHich is faint.


Is the syntax set up for the badges, and he gets the old man in 1-3 days, or does he have to get the Glowy?



Colonel Oacob Riker
Tier 3 Pilot
RSO

Corporal Quinlan Noor
Starfighter Pilot
Choridh
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:58 pm
#725

Thanks for the kick in the nuts. The people at SOE that made the decision to increase the requirements without telling people should be fired. If I had know that they would be doing that, I would have ground my ass off at the beginning instead of enjoying the game. 20 professions done and I get a "You feel a faint sense of the Force". I'm totally disgusted with yourchoices and this is another straw on the camel's back.




Guineach
Master Doctor ~ Swordsman ~ Master of Ilere
Shops of Enclave ~ Hendola, Naboo (6315 1715), Home of the X-Wing


ReptileSpit
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:58 pm
#726

Everybody complaining about not being visited by the old man the second you logged in today or complaining that you're not in group 1 and threatening to quit.....please do us all a favor and quit already.


Letting PCs be able to play as Jedi in this game has been the single biggest mistake the devs ever made.

Yodian
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:59 pm
#727

Well im glad pub 10 is here, been waiting a long time at a chance to get towards my jedi, was a little annoyed at finding out about these group things, but after i cooled down i can understand the need as it would be laggy as hell on dath if 400 people went there in a few hours.


What i would like to know is this, I worked on my badges over the days gone by on my new char i made last week, after a few theme parks today i am now glowing and the force is with me, a late comer maybe but i still meet the needed requirements, and i shall expect the old stranger to come visit me asap.


What bothers me a little is no warning of this from the Developers, this i think is where the anger is coming from, people are kinda feeling stabbed in the back over it, i can understand it, i feel it a bit too.


With these groups, i pray to god that its only a matter of waiting maybe a few days, 4 groups or 6 groups whatever it is, if they are left for a few weeks, as the village i assume is now in phase 1, if those in groups 4, 5, 6 and so on are left untill the end of week 2 or into week 3, it means they must rush to complete the quest for Phase 1.


I don't think people will be to happy if they fail to complete the Phase 1 quest before the time runs out due to not being allowed into the village coz of the old stranger coming late, which in turn means a long wait of what 18 weeks? before phase 1 is back again for them to try.


This time round i think TH you need to be a little more open on this issue, it would help clear somethings up, I know there is a team watching the stats of players daily to see who is doing what and how many are in the village, but don't leave us who glow recently out in the cold to long please.


Other than that, love the bikes now, no warping



Ivanna - RM/ ??
Guin Veers - Jedi
AliensHive
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:59 pm
#728

Hey TH,


I have been chilln out in the wild now for ohh lets says almost 8 hours now...endlessly stairing and my computer screen and anilating everything in my path. I am a Post 9 unlocker, unlocked several days after pub 9 do to be being deployed by the military and i and a nice inner glow. U stated hang out in the wild, Well i have been here waiting, WHAT GIVES!?



Sly-Marbo,

Naritus Server
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