Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Heltain
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:51 pm
#651

That's stupid really. I like the idea of being Jedi or flying around in space as much as the next person, but there's so much crap going on with the combat system, balance between ranged/melee etc that to push this back was a real bad decision.
I'm bored as hell as it is and you tell me that if i want to have any fun i should get out my medieval template, because for a reason i really can't fathom you decided that everything else is more important than combat and gcw.
But hey if i'm stupid enough to not quit i'll get a special space ship for being in the game 6 consecutive month, yay :/
benbanglong
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:55 pm
#652

hey TH, I have one very important question that you might be able to answer...when is EQ2 coming out?????



*removed*
Shiva420
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:56 pm
#653

"The good news is that the Jump to Lightspeed beta registration site is opening later this week "



boycott! noone sign up untill the CORE game is fixed... ie: combat, gcw, professions,missions,bugs ectectect! we know how long the list goes on,,, oh yeah the imperial hat 2!



* Leah-Enlil *
account cancelled... ironicaly it ended exactly 1 year after it was purchased.july 25th.
pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
- still hoping the dev team will get replaced and the game i once loved will get fixed. fix the core game, and problems.stop nerfing everything thats fun. stop doing things noone in the player community asked for!! listen to your customers damnit!!!
DeathLemur
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:56 pm
#654


Thunderheart wrote:

Publish 10.1 is going to bring us an exciting surprise





Oooh oooh oooh... is it going to be the resource trading system I've been harping about in the In-Concept forums for months?

Hey, a guy can dream...



--
Mordus Crestingrider -- Fraggers Hall, Corellia
My hand's been cut off, my friend's frozen in a block of carbonite, and it turns out the guy that killed my teacher is also my father. But I have good news... I just saved a bunch of money by switching my X-Wing's insurance to Geico.
Fix the resource markets!
Rooks
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:56 pm
#655

Ok, I have actually spent the last 3 hours and read this entire thread.


I have counted UP TO 350 ACCOUNT CANCELLATIONS from page 1-23. I then stopped counting.


And you have at LEAST 300 People NOT buying JTL unless a Combat Fix is done first.


This is almost HALF the posters JUST on this thread, and I stopped counting 10 pages ago so it may be an addition 100 or more account canellations and non-JTL buyers.


TH, you got a SERIOUS problem here.


I'll also point out that the MAJORITY of those quitting are your Veteran and Elder players. Those that have weathered through EVERYTHING and still had faith in the game, UNTIL TODAY.


Now, these numbers MAY seem small to SOE execs, but lets face it, they are HUGE since this is JUSST a sample of the game players.


TH, you better convicne someone in SOE that they have screwed up, They need to HIRE A SECOND DEV TEAM to manage the DAILY content and bug fixes for SWG.


WE PAY almost 6 MILLION a MONTH for SWG and we DEMAND a DEV team to SUPPORT IT.


NOT to build an expansion WE have to pay for once it goes live.


SWG is dead, you have about 30 days to fix it and then the cancellations will be horrendous.


Oh, and stop LYING to us.



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irott
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:57 pm
#656

I just cancelled my account.... Oh Wait! No I didn't.

I like playing this game and cancelling my account would serve no purpose.


JtLS is the most important thing that will ever happen. It NEEDs to be a part of this game.



[irott and the full effect]
Master Squad Leader


"We're all in it together" - Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle

Gunga000
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:57 pm
#657


This is unbelievable. There is only 2 things you should have been working on since day 1. (1) Fix all professions and (2) Concentrate on the GCW. That would make you have a strong base for your game. Then you could worry about adding in expansions and such. Thats all you needed to do. Putting JEDI into this game was a big mistake (holo grind, combat imbalances, taking up too much of your time and ignoring simple fixes this game needs). This game has been broken since day one ! Instead of fixing the main engine of the game and the basics , you have ignored us and simply thrown in junk (jedi, jtl , etc) Fix your game first !!! Then move on. Where is the GCW now? All i see are Jedi running everywhere. I don't care how many complained about having JEDI. They werent even suppose to be in the game at this time period. Or say , we have JEDI, just make them NPC's only. If people wanted to play jedi they could have picked up one of the other 100 Starwars Titles. I hate to say it but i'm about to close my 3 accounts and move on. Its a shame i waited for this game , passing on other mmorpgs, and now ...... i'm about to jump the ship. You guys have to get your heads examined. I don't know how you can mess of this idea, but you did. The game was at its best in the first few weeks (no JEDI, no grinding, no force sense, nothing) You had a core game with a good base (just needed to fix the base). Thats it ! I don't understand you people. My suggestion , wipe the JEDI profession from the game. Fix all the professions and work on the GCW . Most of us joined this game to experience STAR WARS and take part in a great idea (AN EMPIRE DIVIDED). I'm not totally anti-jedi , its just has totally taken away from teh basics of this game and caused you to put off more important issues. I'll give you 1month them i'm out . Take care.



One more thing, I've been playing this game since BETA. I joined this game to just experience STARWARS as a MMORPG. I understand JEDI are very important to the Starwars Galaxy, but in this type of game it does not work. I thought at first there might be 10 maybe 20 jedi per server, and if i had one, great , if not, well there are 32 other professions to enjoy. Most of us had this same thought. I don't know how JEDI became such a priority of the rest the game. You thought you would lose some people and money because they would get frustrated in their quest to become a jedi. What 2 % of us? Now you risk losing a ton more than that. Look around, i'd say over 75% of us just wanted to play without JEDI influence. Do you know how many people you are gonna lose now? If people wanted to play JEDI So bad they should have just picked up JEDI knight and playit till their hearts content. And those that wanted to play other aspects of STARWARS would try this out. You can't have everything in one game. Its impossible. Games for people that want to play JEDI, and a game for the rest. You should have seen that making one aspect have more weight above all else would never work. JEDI fix > than simple game fixes, profession fixes, GCW, combat rebalance, content ? How can you think thats more important than your game , its been a year for cyring out loud.

Message Edited by Gunga000 on 07-16-2004 01:08 AM




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acovertrebel
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:58 pm
#658

seems to be that someone just put a bullet into the brain that is SWG.



Teeko Altine
Colonel in the Rebel Alliance
Crimson Corsairs
Rrowann
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:00 pm
#659

Oy. If we could've known back in Beta what we know now, huh?


Not that I was in Beta, 'causeI wasn't that cool.


Thanks for the update, though it's about what I assumed anyway, given the job of overhauling in the middle of a project. Good luck with it, guys.



--

"I'm not a Wookiee. I'm an Imperial."
NinjaPizzaBoy
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:01 pm
#660

It seems that the developers are putting way too much emphasis on what feels "Star Warsy" and not on "how is the game playing?"


I don't care if space is Star Warsy.


I don't care if race tracks are Star Warsy.


I don't care if getting a new dance from Jabba is Star Warsy.


I think good, balanced combat is Star Warsy.


I think fixing the game after a year of imbalance before releasing an expansion is smart.
Worldmaker2k4
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:02 pm
#661






irott wrote:

I just cancelled my account.... Oh Wait! No I didn't.

I like playing this game and cancelling my account would serve no purpose.


JtLS is the most important thing that will ever happen. It NEEDs to be a part of this game.







Yeah, that was probably the most asinine post I've ever seen from a correspondent.


Especially one whose profession is as broken as professions come.


The GCW and the land-based game are what this entire game was sold as. We didn't buy it thinking, "Gosh, maybe they'll say '**edit** everything else for a year, let's blow it off and get the Space game installed!". We bought it to enjoy the game that was sold to us. Very few of us do these days.


Cancelling accounts is a perfectly good means of getting developer attention, and guess what? I'm doing it too. Not because I'm a sheep, but because I understand the community's priorities, and they apparently have nothing to do with SOE's or yours. Why in the hell are you a correspondent, anyways? Do you think they'll actually make Squad Leader anything but worthless garbage in a twitch-based space game?





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DarkSide-Dav
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:02 pm
#662

Soory devs, but im tired of listen you: next month it will be fantastic... Dont want to continue the adventur of "starwars" with you... You say something, the week after you say exactly the opposit...

Shiva420
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:03 pm
#663




Rooks wrote:
I have counted UP TO 350 ACCOUNT CANCELLATIONS from page 1-23. I then stopped counting.

ADD ME TO THE LIST

And you have at LEAST 300 People NOT buying JTL unless a Combat Fix is done first.

YUP

TH, you got a SERIOUS problem here.

WHO DIDNT SEE THIS COMING?

I'll also point out that the MAJORITY of those quitting are your Veteran and Elder players. Those that have weathered through EVERYTHING and still had faith in the game, UNTIL TODAY.

YUP... WELL, AFTER SEEING THIS AND THE LIVE DEV CHAT :http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Eclipse&message.id=326209




WHY out of all of soe's mmo games does SWG cost the most? ooOOo lowered the game price from 50$ to 30$... better change that monthly fee to free if you want to keep people




* Leah-Enlil *
account cancelled... ironicaly it ended exactly 1 year after it was purchased.july 25th.
pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
- still hoping the dev team will get replaced and the game i once loved will get fixed. fix the core game, and problems.stop nerfing everything thats fun. stop doing things noone in the player community asked for!! listen to your customers damnit!!!
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