Development Cycle Archive

Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

ReekoShan
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:19 pm
#638

everyone just give up trying to explain urself its not gonna change anything this is how its gonna work for the most of us 5-7 months to get in 72 hours? pfff sure only the lucky ones. Ive been playing since day 1 but i dont bother mastering all proffessions, and for the people who complain about other people playing the game for the jedi, playing for just mastering proffessions shouldnt be what this game is about either, but in everyones minds thats what it is because they cant find any other way to reward people maybe they should be rewarded not on how many proffessions but how many badges cuz u really nned only like the specific ones to get into the city maybe u should get compensation for the other ones u found the same way the did it for mastering proffessions u only needed certain ones but u also picked up other ones on the way...CHANGE THE WAIT PERIODS PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ I CANT STRESS THAT ENOUGH!!! THE WAIT IS THE BIGGEST MESS UP THIS PUB WILL HAVE!!!


ive got 8 mastered proffs and im glowying 1 of them was my holo im expecting a 5 month wait and ive banked over 3.5 million weapons xp which i coulda used to master proffessions but thats tough luck i guess ill come back in 5 months and play



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Skrim
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:20 pm
#639






Thunderheart wrote:



The credit you will receive is…


6 Force Sensitive branches will be granted


5 Force Sensitive branches will be granted


4 Force Sensitive branches will be granted


3 Force Sensitive branches will be granted


2 Force Sensitive branches will be granted


1 Force Sensitive branch will be granted



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You will be granted access to the village…



Automatically qualify


Group 1


Group 2


Group 3


Group 4




Always.







"For those who are not yet Jedi and wish to hold their progress, they will enter the Jedi Quest system in Publish 10 and for those that start the Jedi path will given credit for all professions mastered up to that point.For those that wish to continue their progress, whatever effort was put into the previous Jedi Path (IE. Mastering Professions) will translate to the new system.The amount of completed professions will be measured and players will get an amount of credit in the new system based on how many professions they completed." - by Thunderheart from jedi archives.



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I am apparently misunderstanding this. My main Character's Holo went silent in October 2003. I continused to grind 15 more profesions,then decided to wait till patch 10 and get my credit. He has 77 Badges and Colonel Rank in Rebel Faction.


From TH's quote I logged in expecting to be "glowie" and then wait the 1-3 days for my visit from the old man. Where I would begranted 5 Branches (Silent holo and all) then start the quests from there.


This was not the case. When I logged in this afternoon and /check "You feel a surge of the force within you." came up not "glowie". Now I apparently still have much to do, and fear that once that is completed I will not get the promiced credit.


Another worry is the fact my Account has been active since July 2003 never missing a payment, and played regularly. My main character also never recieved the "painting" at 1 year anivercery. This leads me to think there is something wrong with the tracking on my character. I called CSR on the phone, they told me to make a ticket, they could not help me with in-game issuses. I made a ticket, and they told me to post on the forums.


Any one know how I should procede and what I should expect ?




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Vasarious
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:20 pm
#640







TheRealWalker wrote:





Vasarious wrote:


"Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man."


so.... if we qualify under the new system we can expect a visit within 1-3 days?


I think answering this question will put alot of players minds at ease


Thanks








This is a stove. When you see fire it will burn you.

If it burns me, does that mean its hot?

/sigh

You answered your own question with your quote.




Im aware i answered my own question im merely asking for confirmation on this point as alot of readers have jumped to horrible conclusions and not readTH's post correctly. Also...think about it logically......what’s the point in saying there will be group phases to control lag if everyone can get a visit within 1-3 dayswith5 content badges and a few poi badges that take a day or 2 to get.








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Vasarious
Eclipse
kanejacks
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:20 pm
#641

I think for most the confusion is to wether or not they will be able to qualify under the new system to visit the village even if they are in groups 1-3 and would otherwise have to wait until their turn to get a free visit by the old man. From the wording of the post by TH it is relatively clear that this is the case and that if you are in group 3, rather then waiting an indefinite period of time to get into the village you may simply qualify under the new rules and get a visit much sooner.


Reading the posts leading up to this one is has never been as clear that the majority of posters have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever.



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Ranger01
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:23 pm
#642

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How and when does this visit happen?>>>>>>

READ THIS>>>>> The old man will visit you when you have completed the requirements of the new path to becoming a Jedi.<<<<<
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TH said that.

What this chart means is if you fall in group 1-4 then you didn't qualify for force sensitivity. Thats it. Almost, sorry but didn't make it. Under the old system you didn't do it. You get credit for what you did. They're even giving you force sensitivity because they're nice. They are just making you wait till the people who earned in the old and do earn it through the new systems get through it. Since you didn't earn force sensitivity, just a few bonus skill trees, you have to wait till the people who earned it use the village. You get to pass go, and you get $200. You just have to wait till the people who did make it around the board pass go before you get to skip.

If somebody qualifies under the new system tomorrow then they'll get a visit. They won't have to wait more than a day or three. If you want to get a visit without waiting for your group then go qualify under the new system. If you've played the game at all over the time you've had your account (mindless profession grinding isn't playing the game) then you're probably somewhere along the new path already. Go do something besides mindless xp grinding.

If i am wrong hopefully Thunderheart or another developer will post and correct me, since I'm defending them.

[Rant, independent of my TH/Dev defense]
Most of you people are reminding me of 3 year olds and it really makes me sad that you are grown adults and still don't comprehend that you are not the star of the show or the center of the universe. The world doesn't revolve around you, and unless you hire someone to do it, nobody lives for the sole purpose of pleasing you. I worked in customer service for 6 years so I've delt with a lot of people (in person) and no, I did not do poorly in my job.

If you didn't get so emotional over a game (if it weren't so sad then i would laugh) you might have read TH's post carefully and seen that it wasn't the end of the world and they never lied to us. Nothing is neither false nor true. They did not say much but what they did say was true. You just filled in the rest from your imaginations to be what you wanted and are interpreting what they said as false because it soothes your egos. Actually, I already figured out most of what TH posted from what was already posted about the Village-system and the Holo-credit. Nothing was really new except the flood control and it wasn't a shocking revelation of the apocalypse like you're treating it.

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Cyricy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:23 pm
#643

It is like saying that "oh guys our old man's computer is Pentium III/celeron 933 MHz and he has only 256 mb ram running on Windows XP Professional with a 32mb TNT2, due to this configuration he will not show up rapidly, you can just wait for him in the wilderness. We changed the system cuz you know when you were holo-grinding, our uber leet pentium 4 1.7 ghz servers were crashing so we came up with this waiting idea"


Come'n so many entertainment corporations are doing the same job with you, MMORPG thing, I never saw a thing -oh please do not go the same place, our servers are crashing, weynk weynk-. HEY HELLO WE ARE PAYING! I AM NOT PLAYING at ANY FREE ULTIME ONLINE SERVER, I AM PAYING FOR IT.... It is not just you devs who is doing that job. They are upgrading their servers....


Maybe I am not going to leave just for these inconv things. But I am telling you, I will say all my friends to stay away from this game, cuz having a Star Wars title even cannot save it. Oh-Oh you already know that, don't you? You are embracing the HOLLY MIGHTY STAR WARS TITLE (serious, I am worshpiping GL, I LOVE SW)... I wish this game were handling by LUCASARTS guys... I only wish that....



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TocaEmosewa
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:23 pm
#644






Jasco702 wrote:





TocaEmosewa wrote:

Wow. This shold be renamed Whiner's Corner. The majority of these posts are worthless flame...28 pages worth.... of temper tantrums.


It is what it is. Play or do not play.






Thanks for your input, *Mr. I have 12 posts*




Oh, I see, so you keep score. You believe people who say the most have more rights to an opinion or perhaps are more likely to have something intelligent to say? Or maybe you think people who personally attack and insult others are most l33t? Guess so. Hope you feel like a great big important man now.




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Taneas
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:25 pm
#645

28 pages.


Wow..

Ya. I agree with everyone here. THIS IS THE SUX


They've invented the new business. Pay us money for no reason.


I like many other people took the day off today, only to be SCREWED OVER. Ive been here since beta 3 and this is the biggest kick in the ass yet. Its a shame really. Oh well, I got into matrix online beta, and as buggy as that game is right now its already better then anything this POS will ever be.


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Ziocyte
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:25 pm
#646






Thunderheart wrote:



The old man will visit you when you have completed the requirements of the new path to becoming a Jedi.While this new path is still a secret, it is no where near as daunting as the holo-professions method.We have made additional provisions for those that worked partially through the old system.Here is how you will be allocated a visit based on the old system:



If you have... You will be granted access to the village…



1 Profession remainingAutomatically qualify


2 Professions remaining Group 1


3 Professions remaining Group 2


4 Professions remaining Group 3


5 Professions remaining Group 4





A very good friend of mine and I are trying to understand this. We believe that we both qualify under the new Jedi quest requirments. However we are unsure if these numbersapplies to us or not.


Since we have satisfied the requirements for the new Jedi Quests, do we belong to the last possible group seeing as how we have no holo-credit to our knowlage? Or, are these numbers purely for hologrinders so that they do not have to go back and qualify for the new requirements to be eligeble for a visit?


an example of what we are saying is:


A person with 5 finished holocron professions, with no other credit toward the new system is placed in group 2...


But a person with 0 finished holocron professions, but has all the requirements for the New system is automatically eligable...??


If anyone can help clarify this for us it would be much appriciated. We are currently wandering around the Corellian Forest hoping the Old Man is looking for us atm hopefully we aren't looking for something that is there.


-Ziocyte


rexan
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:25 pm
#647






Thunderheart wrote:



"You must unlearn what you have learned."






As the number increased, people were completing more and more professions to hit the hidden requirements. Although we will not be giving specific credit for the total number of professions ground, we will be giving credit for how many of the required hidden master boxes you completed. There is a very strong correlation between the raw number of professions that players completed and the number of hidden master boxes people completed.In other words, for those players that acquired 32 master boxes, they by default acquired the necessary 8 master boxes that unlocked their slot.For players that finished 29 or 30 master boxes, they almost certainly acquired 7 of the necessary 8 master boxes that unlocked their slot.This was the case all the way down the scale.










This is total BS.


You changed the rules on us?!?! First it was 4 holocron professions and 1 silent? Then you changed it to 4 holocron professions and 4 silent?!? As if the hologrinding system wasn't bad enough. It was totally unfair. Some people would unlock in 5, some would unlock in 32. How is it possible for any developer to even consider that someones effort for completeing 5 professions is equilevent to someone elses effort for completeing 32 professions? Its insane.


I guess a basic understanding of statistics mighthave helped.


Dracass
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:26 pm
#648






twiafu wrote:



Dracass, I always have enjoyed reading your posts....


Not only are they informative, but damn good fun to read!






Heh, good to hear.


And yers too, eversince I started readin' 'em from the Combat ReVamp/ReBalance/BalanceIncident.







Sign off,
Dracass The'Heartless
MadDog36
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:28 pm
#649

well, I do love how TH posted 2 answers, yet they were the same exact posts!


Anyways, I would have preferred to go straight to the village, but what can you do.....MY big problem is how can I trust what the developers say anymore? You said it was 5 holo professions, not 8. You never mentioned it was being made different. If you had said way back when that you were making it harder because there were too many jedi, people would have complained, but understood. Instead, you hope that no one will read the entire post you makeand look over the fact that you changed theholocron system WITHOUT TELLING YOUR MEMBERSHIP. Really, it is just flat out bs. You not only failed, you failed miserably.



Wigea Avia
TRGA
Rebel Colonel
MadDog36
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:29 pm
#650

oh, and another thing.....


I WISH I GOT PROMOTED EVERY TIME I MISLEAD MY CUSTOMERS!



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TRGA
Rebel Colonel
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