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Thread: Publish 7 Feedback: Droid & Droid Engineer Enhancements

Khalaermol
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:14 pm
#53

Wallpaper of the Droid Invasion VS The ACTUAL Droid Invasion in a 10 round fight for the championship:



Wallpaper of the Droid Invasion wins in the first round.





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Kumak
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:20 pm
#54

Found this out with the R3 not sure on the rest made one combat cluster using 3 combat modules and another using medical-storage-food crafting station made then final product the combat rating is not on the deed at all should have been 324 seem any combinatin i use with the r3 when i use any type of utility the combat rating does not appear on the deed
loonies
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:24 pm
#55

Droid invasion?


Only thing you did is remove the armour on my excisting Probot and put in exactly 0 new droids.


Good Job!!!!


jefmes
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:25 pm
#56

I'm not gonna defend the removal of the medium armor rating at all, BUT you guys do know we at least have droid repair kits now, right? Whereas before you had to WAIT for your droid to heal you can repair him just like any other pet. That I believe is part of the reason for the removal of the medium armor, also to bring them in line with other CL10 pets. That's the goal at least


For those of you who don't understand why no droids more powerful than this...same reason we no longer have pets that are tougher. All about balance, and making the player the primary combatant. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that's the intent! IF you don't understand the intent you can't start intelligently arguing your side. If you still think we're getting screwed, have at it, be my guest!




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waaha
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:44 pm
#57

I would like to know whay i cant call my droids i could before to at least get whats inside them that is rightfully mine




SOE do i now have to master DE to get my things?




Bull%!$$@



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Vampiric_Hoshi
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:47 pm
#58

From a Droid Engineer perspective, I personaly believe calling these "Combat Droids" is miss-leading and adding "new combat droids now available" in the patch notes is a downright lie.


Making R-Series and the LE Repair droid have combat abilities does NOT class as an addition of new combat droids and considering the "Droid Invasion" picture displays advanced battle droids, the entire "Droid Invasion" publish is one big farce.


To say I am dissapointed is an understatement.


But to answer your question, are these combat droids any use to non-combatants? No. The best "combat droid" is an R3 unit with a max HAM of 2k and max dmg of 120. There are level 10 pets made by BE's that have 3 times the HAM, twice the dmg and can also poison.



Abandon all hope
Masen
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:48 pm
#59

Either take that freaking stupid wallpaper OFF the site, for good, or GIVE US THOSE STINKIN CHASSIS!


I am sick and tired of getting tells for the 'Droideka' or the 'Cool advanced battledroid type thing'. I logged on to try the crafting changes, and the toher stuff..got flooded with tells, even up putting a half dozen more on my ignore list that insisted the droids were on the wallpaper, so I must be able to make them.


And then the 'New BE checks and balances'...What the f***?!?!


Ok..SO NOW A NON-CH PET IS 300 HAMS AND NO ARMOR?!?!


This is just freakin annoying. I'm getting sick and tired of you deciding each damned month that pets should have less and less ham, and do less and less damage. i'm fed up with these rediculous publish names. Imperial Crackdown..More like Imperial Faction Donation. Droid Invasion..try Droid Insult. Yay..we get combat droids. And instead of making them worth while, you simply nerf BE pets again. Way to go. I'm getting more than a bit sick of this. The ONLY reason I am still in game is my friends now. I'm not gonna waste time crafting. I'm not wasting my energy on missions. Item decay and then driving prices up higher took care of that. I'll go back to sitting in the friggin Cantina for hours, at least I can TALK without my items decaying, until you nerf group chat. You even nerfed Image designers, what the h***? Apparently making someone's toon a bit older is an unfair advantage..Come on. This is freakin disgusting.


ENOUGH NERFS!



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mmaughme
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:52 pm
#60

I helped our guild's MDE with some testing this morning, dueling droids against one another.

The R3 kicked the probot's shiny metal ass.

The R2 owned the DZ-70, as you'd expect. The R2's LLC attack was very cool, by the way.

The LE toasted the R2. It was funny watching the LE kick and punch. I couldn't figure out how to make the R2 use his melee attack in this one.

The R5 was utterly pointless. We didn't even test it.




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Ablon
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:13 pm
#61

You are going to hear alot of "where is the droids in the wallpaper image"? Publish 7.....very misleading for the non droid engineers. I can live with the publish but I would look forward and by that I mean move forward with a reallll revamp for droid engineer!



Please use this link as a droid reference: http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid







I really like the direction of publish 8 as it hasbeen stated. It definitely integrates droids serving a purpose for sales, dancers, and combat. I think that the purpose of a droid and what it can actually do in the game is what will promote a Star Warsy feel and stabilize our profession. But there is something missing and that is graphic immersion which in my opinion co exists with functionality.



  • For example take a R2 unit which is packed with all sorts of tool-tipped appendages that make him a great starship mechanic and computer interface specialist. We dont ever get to see those devices or use them in SWG. Why?

  • Protocols droids serve no purpose. They need playability. An example would be Mr. C3PO. He translates.

  • Content- make sure it fits with the Star wars Universe- here is an example from just that universe below. Much of the anti-droid sentiment existing in the galaxy is unwarranted bigotry, but even pro-droid activists will find it hard to defend the rights of droids bearing arms. The memory of droid armies is still fresh in many minds, and the legions of mechanized troops used by the Trade Federation and other corporate interests paved the way for legislation that eventually did away with the soulless infantry. Relics from that era still exist, such as the battered chrome war droid known as IG-88. The tall, cylinder-headed and heavily-armed mechanical bounty hunter responded to Darth Vader's call to capture the Millennium Falcon during the events surrounding the Battle of Hoth. Another issue is






Playability



  • Droids can fix harvestors. Allow droids like WED Treadwell located at http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/wedtreadwell/index.html to be able to affect the status payment for a harvestor by fixing the harvestor. This would act as a payment. These droids would become quite common and would help the DE market.

  • Med droids- these work great.

  • Assasin Droids: Perhaps the oddest being that could ever become a bounty hunter is a protocol droid. Yet it happened in the case of 4-LOM. This droid answered the call sent out by Darth Vader to capture the Millennium Falcon after the Battle of Hoth. 4-LOM is a humanoid droid, with a matte-black finish that is scarred and pitted. It has an insect-like face with large, compound photoreceptors. 4-LOM carries a massive blaster rifle.

  • Assasin droids could be made to accompany Bounty Hunters. They could also be used as militia in cities and player cities as well as for space pirates.

  • Serv-O-Droid:Type:Communications / business droid /Affiliation: Criminal . A sun-addled humanoid droid found in the streets of Mos Eisley, this particular mechanical has been spotted vacantly meandering through the corridors of the port city. Here is the criminal droid that many are looking for.

  • Dark troopers: The dark troopers were first unleashed shortly after the Battle of Yavin, on the unsuspecting Alliance installation of Tak Base. The Empire launched the droids via hyperspace capsules, in a fashion similar to the distribution of deep space probe droids. The inhuman soldiers tore through all resistance, and devastated the Rebel outpost on the planet Talay.

  • Have the dark troopers made only by DE's loyal to the Empire.

  • FX-7\med droid: The sturdy FX-7 medical assistant droid aids both live and droid doctors in medical procedures. The FX-7 is a cylindrical droid, with a number of retractable appendages. Here we have a possibility to add this droid to medical centers as well as player battlefield med centers.

  • Imperial V Mark Sentry Droids; Seen hovering alongside Imperial desert stormtrooper patrols in the dusty corridors of Mos Eisley were these small, sleek probe droids. They are carried by miniature repulsorlifts and their bulbous bodies are packed with sophisticated sensor technology. These could be used for spying.

  • Combat droids: I would laugh if a mse droid could attack me. Make them tough- dual blasters.

But what is missing is how do we actually see the functionality without graphic immersion? And what do our droids actually do?





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marxo777
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:36 pm
#62

*Picks up ball DEVS dropped*


/trade


*you have traded the Droid Invasion to DEVS*



*you have been tipped 10 credits from DEVS*





Mars










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AtomiskKnives
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:56 pm
#63

Why did you make a wall paper with good droids and not put them in the game? Sure I read the thing about them being the same droids as always jus with combat capibilities, BUT I'm not a DE and I didnt know that is what itactual did mean- That is the dumbest thing to be done to this game yet in my opionon, I really did think that better droids were going to be put in this game.


Then again I guess the most intimiading thing to a Tusken probably is a R2 coming at them



Atomisk Knives
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It was Fun while it lasted
TheWardog
Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:14 pm
#64

Looks like 2 straight publishes that didn't meet even minimal player expectations. I hear Freecell calling...



Piece of crap Lithium totally screwed up my sig
POS
spearbearer
Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:16 pm
#65

I just gave AtomiskKnives 5 stars. Why? because he nicely sums up all the /tell (around 25) about the new combat droids I got today.
Not counting the 15+ /tells asking me about the "broken" armour on their droids.

My thanks to the devs.



Icatipev IonoraiMaster Chief Droid Engineer
Federal Ore and Petrochemical Mining Corporation
Vendor located on Corellia at -2187 -4460


"I will tell you this, Droids (and DE's) are going to be the MAIN feature for the January publish. We will be fixing alot of things and adding combat droids.Yes, talk is cheap." - JustG - 11/25/2003
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