Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Publish 7 Feedback: Droid & Droid Engineer Enhancements

Neehivi
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:39 pm
#40






Smurfwalker wrote:
Whilst I'm not weighing into the actual argument over what are good/bad changes (I don't have an opinion yet), these changes have been on the test center for quite some time, and it would not have taken a whole lot to read the release notes or hop onto the test center to discover these things for yourself while there was still time to be involved in the development process.

Complaining about things that have been known for some time (ie. no droidekas etc.) is counter-productive, and contributes to a whole lot of emotional wind that the developers have to sort through to actually find any bugs.

If the changes affect you so much, you should have read the notes and checked out the test center, and the test center forums before it went live.






/agree


/agree


/agree

Lonkley
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:49 pm
#41






Neehivi wrote:

Hey Stop Flaming!!


it was Said Many times! :


Droidicas: Publish 8

Advertising Droids: Publish 8

other High end Combat Droids: Publish 8


There is No Droid commander right now. so why should we Get Droidicas? even a droid commander can control them (cuz they are higher level 10).

in Publish 7 we got Combat droids with LEVEL 10. the level EVERYONE can control.


ok i have to say... the Armor nerf is BAD! (droids are made of Metal, and should have a high Armor ratings!)


and the Repairkits: may they're great, but THi think there are too much Modules/Rare recources we need to build them!


so far.... /bow


Neehivi







There is no Droid Commander added in Publish 8.


There is no new combat droids in Publish 8


THERE IS NO DROIDEKA in publish 8


All combat droids > CL10 were canceled when Droid Commander was aborted.





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AsInVader
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:50 pm
#42

logged on a couple of minutes ago and got attacked by tells of people wanting the new droids on the wall paper UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! why not do a wallpaper of R2 with his little knife????



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Samath
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:05 pm
#43





Just Found this on another thread......





dahrocker wrote: TH/Devs, Please relate to us where do we find the droids in the wallpaper released for this publish. Granted we wont have the background bots as pets, but are they even in the game?





They are NPCs in the Corellian Corvette.


Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl Assistant Community Manager





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Thank you Devs for throwing two+ years of my life out with one update that took you all about a day to make from all the bug that are in it!!!!!!
Limbonik
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:12 pm
#44






Animi wrote:

I'm not sure if that stuff works or not, but thanks for stealth-nerfing my prenerf probot.


Prior to the publish my probot was:



  • 40% Resists to All

  • Medium Armor

Now, my probot is:



  • 12% Resists to All

  • No Armor

I don't think it's right for you guys to retroactively nerf legacy items.








I demand my only non-useless droid returned immediately. Thank you.



Limbonik
Imperial Inquisitor :: Darksider Historian
Remember the Fallen


TheRealTK421
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:13 pm
#45






Limbonik wrote:

I demand my only non-useless droid returned immediately. Thank you.




Limbonik,


Why would you hurt me that way!?!? You've always said you loved the droid I made you.



/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
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nikko11
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:16 pm
#46

Droid Invasion -

ROFLMAO

You're serious? This is it?

That's two back to back publishes that add ABSOLUTELY no true content to this game.

Don't waste my time with the correlian Corvette or the Geonesian Bunker.

I remember when I used to log in to this game and have new and interesting things to check out.

You are losing me SOE, I've held out hope for this long. Been playing since Beta3. You are about to lose three accounts from me.

Return to hotfixes, return to frequent changes, make this game fun and changing and new.

My god, how insulting to the Droid Engineers is this publish.

Neeka





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apulieus
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:21 pm
#47

Hehe,


I knew no one would like the class 10 droids. I personally liked the old probot droids. I wouldn't use them hunt rancors, but would use them to hunt magwax on yavin. Just had 5 of them in data pad and would rotate them.


Can't blame them for nerfing the armor though, with the ability to heal droids in combat they would be pretty powerfull.


Drakforge
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:23 pm
#48







What I don't understand is why the "COMBAT" droids are Creature Level 10 ?


Creature level 10 is about as useful as having a gnort for combat.... CL 10is an outrageous joke as far as combat is concerned for any Novice or higher. It's basically 2 seconds of hassle before they're dead.


Am I missing something?






2 seconds? umm thats how long my level 70 pet lasts in PvP lol... a CL 10 is less then a krettle attacking a group of racors.


Would i use a CL10 pet for anyting other then apperance? no way..regardless of if its a droid of a creature..


Should have done to combat nerf first.. then all this stuff. Look at what the CH class has to put up with (visit that angry forum) now you have upset the DE which was already sad.. at least the CH class had a moment of glory before thier nerf .. on to the mount thread!





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ArchFirehaven
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:29 pm
#49

/sigh


I am an ardent support of this game. I have a Jedi. I have two characters. One of which is a Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan/Master Tailor (didnt want to be an architect, weaponsmith, or armoursmith to perserve some of the single server non mule feel) and I must say I am dissapointed.


I realize that there was going to be no IG or Droideka in this patch, that was clearly stated in the patch notes and test center forums (and DE forums also).


Lets look at this another way shall we.


DE is an artisan class and thus we make stuff to sell. We have two markets...selling to other crafters with regards to mobile crafting stations and to all players with regards to combat droids.


Now lets look at our competition...internally all the DE's compete against each other of course...but also we compete with Bio Engineers with the potentially larger portion of our market. Now lets look at the other artisan classes shall we...


Other than themselves who has competition from another class?


Merchant - not really applicable


Artisan - Power ups/Components/Vehicles....no competition externally. (partially non applicable since we all have some of this ability due to the fact it is on the way to the Elite classes).


Armoursmith - They hold both the armour and shielding markets


Weaponsmith - Only one that can make weapons


Tailor - Only one that can make clothes


Architect - Only one that can make structures.


So as you can see the only artisan class that has exterior competition is Droid Engineer. From Bio Engineer mainly and kinda sorta Creature Handler thanks to the transfer command. This is what needs to be addressed. Either move BE or DE out of the "tanks'" for the mass market arena. Seeing as BE's have clothing and food additive markets already...not to mention uber creature markets...and creature healing markets I think DE can be cut some slack on this one. Plus it is more Star Warsy.


I say remove creatures from non-CH's with the exception of mounts. Mounts will only fight for CH's and Rangers though...move them back up to level 15. BE's can off course enhance mounts and also make uber creatures for CH's. Plus they have the enhanced clothing and food additive markets to themselves. Also I would add amour enhancements to BE's and medical enhances also.


Then I would add in the art of the IG droids, Droideka, and the battle and super battledroids for player controlled droids. They would be different than creatures...as they would be primarily ranged with low ham but good armour and through rare shematic drops/quest (preferred) shielding. Make them have different resists and damage types...ie Droideka would have great defense vs KD but battle droids would not....etc etc.


This is my view on how to move forward...and not to nerf the market for BE's btw...one of my best friends is one...but at some point devs you are going to have to make a tough decisions and stick to it. Might as well be this star wars backed decision here.








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RamhornSWG
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:34 pm
#50

I know alot of Droid Engineers didnt want the Droid Handler profession but....


ADD THE DROID HANDLER PROFESSION!


I want to see some player controlled droidekas!


NovaSpice
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:36 pm
#51

Now, as always, we cannot vent at TH. He's just the messenger. Getting that out of the way, TH, you do a fantastic job. I wouldn't want it, but you do a good job.


To The Development Team:


-If you put as much effort into SWG as you do EQ, then this game might be worth the price.


-"Droid Invasion" should be renamed "The Adventures of Sideshow Bob." Why? Because that's a more fitting title for one.


-Make this game work. This is STAR WARS, not some crappy fantasy title that's like every other fantasy title out there (And yes, this was a jab at EQ.) For a massively successful phenomenon such as STAR WARS, the Development Team is not living up to our expectations. We, as paying customers, deserve to have a better game than this.


-This new Publish blows ass. Instead of adding one new dungeon per publish, how about half a dozen? Instead of fixing a half dozen things, how about fixing everything. If you want this game to be successful, I suggest you start churning out the fixes and the content. You can deny all you want, but everyone knows that you're losing customers and you're not receiving new ones to replace those leaving.


It seems to me that you people are just trying to keep this puppy afloat for as long as possible, in order to bring in the cash. Then, you'll let it go, just like Ultima Online. And yes, we all know Raph Koster's history.


Kaldeth
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:44 pm
#52

Someone mentioned that the R3 is the strongest droid now.

This isn't exactly true.


This is my findings so far


Probot.

Caps at 1100 HAM. Does the most damage


R-Series.

Caps at 1700 HAM. Does avarage damage


LE Repair Droid.

Caps at 2200 HAM. Does low damage.


LE Repair Droids can't be fitted with a repair module so it can't repair other droids.

R-Series can no longer take medical-, Storage-. Data storage modules.


WED Treadwell, Treadwell, BLL, and a few others can be fitted with the storage, repair, medical and data storage modules.


R-Series got both melee and ranged attack.

Probot got only range attack.

LE Repair droid got only Melee attack.


A R-Series or a Probot with lvl 6 Armor modules gets 20% to resist.

Using lvl 4 armor modules gets you 15% resist.


Still no armor rating though.


Repair kits does good repairs, but only against droids. I haven't really been swamped with tells about droids. None dare use them. I sold one droid so far, and i made a few others to myself and a friend.


Repair droids doesn't really fill any function as far as I can see. I had a friend do combat with his droid so I could use the repair function. I got the *Repaired* above the droid I sent my repair droid to fix, but didnt see any changes to ham. I was told that the stats moved up like 5 points. And I selected repair about 10 times in a row.


As for publish 8. That got me more disapointed then publish 7. The notes for 7 said combat capabilites for some droids, but nothing about new droids.

Publish 8 doesn't mention new droids either. Hardly anything is mentioned about droids in the big notes for publish 8.


Sad really.




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