Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 9 Feedback: Hotfix Feedback July 6, 2004
Darius2
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:17 pm
#53
The BH spawn for the mark of intellect is still broken. Whether you acknowledge it or not, several csr's have now confirmed that it is broken. Why not just tell us when its going to be fixed so we can stop wasting our time? As it is, you're making soe look laughably ignorent.
Eniako
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:21 pm
#54
But they are not like the rest of us. They are Jedi and that makes them, by definition, better and not subject to having to deal with the same trials as the riff-raff. They are the Devs chosen people.
DroidRacer wrote:
I'm afraid you are going to have to wait for the combat rebalance... just like the rest of us.
CamiGreen
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:25 pm
#55
Dropped scout skills, and picked up Rifleman. No issues so far.
Lynchmawb
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:29 pm
#56
When is the +10 regen bonus going to work on the low end Jedi robes?
Tryth
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:33 pm
#57
19 questions for TH:
1) Where are the 19 answers?
2) Where are the 19 answers?
3) Where are the 19 answers?
4) Where are...
just wondering
Stark-Fuji
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:36 pm
#59
Darius2 said "The BH spawn for the mark of intellect is still broken. Whether you acknowledge it or not, several csr's have now confirmed that it is broken. Why not just tell us when its going to be fixed so we can stop wasting our time? As it is, you're making soe look laughably ignorent."
Right on. The BH spawn for the mark of intellect is still broken. Dev's please acknowledge this to let all the people who post about this issue be feed what they're hungering for. please. just say it. so we can stop wasting our time flying from shuttle to shuttle to wp's of the supposed BH's that arent there.
I can understand in the beginning when it was hard to get this badge but now its easy. though theres one problem here. the BH's need to spawn in order to complete this part of the quest. it is so hard to say "yeah its bugged and broken so were looking down the road, about 2 weeks or so for a fix"
Oh and Dev's rememebr most others who dont have a Jedi, this was the only UPDATE for us non-jedi please fix this issue as its the only new content that is now broken for us. Giving jedi no-tef's for using their powers or saber was enough hand holding. please take care of the other gamers. thank you.
jefmes
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:40 pm
#60
Profession: Bounty Hunters
Bounty Hunter only requires Exploration IV now instead of Master Scout.
Bug found: Making the Exploration line the requirement doesn't make sense when we have another line called HUNTING. 
Seriously though...I don't get it.
Seriously though...I don't get it.And a note for all you complaining about Master Bounty Hunter being worthless now - look, this is a hotfix. It gives us something more to play with until they can give due development time to the profession. We all want it, they know it needs it, it'll happen. Just give it some time. I keep reading things like, "Well there's no reason now, just get Invest 3 and then get X Flavor of the Month profession, what's the point???"
The point is there shouldn't be a BOUNTY HUNTER profession. Bounty Hunting is something you do, something you join. You talk to a guy, he says,"Eh, go whack this guy for me, a'ight?" And you go do it, using whatever abilities and skills you have. Why not redistribute the content of the Bounty Hunter profession into the pistols, carbine, and heavy weapons groups into their approriate professions, drop the whole investigation skill line (who want a harder target, GO FOR IT. You'll die, but GO FOR IT), and drop Bounty Hunter guild halls around the galaxy where you can register to become a bounty hunter. Why does there need to be a high barrier to entry for this? Make all Bounty Hunters perma-TEF or something. I don't know, just throwing thoughts out there now.
My point being, the direction of a seperate, dedicated Bounty Hunter profession CAN be cool, but the development time might be better spent making it content available for all. I've only been a BH for a short while now (original goal was to wipe out the continuity breaking Jedi since they're not supposed to be here anyway - so I thought I'd do something about it), but I'm enjoying just doing the hunts for something DIFFERENT to do.
Anyway - thanks for the hotfix guys, I'm glad to be able to get back my Master DE status today!
Message Edited by jefmes on 07-06-2004 01:41 PM
JediNewb
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:54 pm
#61
Nifo wrote:
The Value of a Master Bounty Hunter is being all but erased with this patch,
Our droid skills beyone invest 3 serve no purpose in hunting Jedi, as we will just get a waypoint to the last place they loaded to just like anyone else, tracking, accuracy and speed give us no real benefit.
Our Inventory of varied weaponry only hurts us, as to use our proffession to its intended extent we have to wait 3 seconds after we swap our weapons, which to a MBH who know to use their skills may happen very often. This could easily be fixed without allowing for exploitation by: Have a timer that prevents you from switching weapons for a certain time AFTER you switch your weapons, or allow our speed modifiers to affect weapon swap time. I always envisioned a BH as a western desperado who empties his rifle, dropping it as his enemies close in, whipping out his pistols for the close quarters combat.
Our Pistol skills are now more easily accessible by Master Pistoleers, with the exception of fast blast
Our Carbine skills are now more easily accessible by Master Carbiniers, with the exception of sprayshot
Our LLC skills are now more easily accessible to anyone who wants to be able to clear out a group of NPCs
Our Investigation "skills" are now more easily accessible by anyone who has the hankering to hunt jedi.
Each one of these skills is more powerful in conjunction with a set of skills in the game other than the set that makes up Master Bounty Hunter, which before made MBH a unique proffession, whereas now, it is more of a dabbling pond. I sincerly hope that with the combat rebalance Bounty Hunters can be returned to their previous requirements of dedication. I have played asa Bounty Hunter for almost a year now, and it saddens me to see my proffession opened up for the world to use.
A Master Bounty Hunter who actually learned the Bounty Hunter Proffession....
Here, friggin' here. One of the best things about BH was that it took dedication. This change just opens it up for "dabblers".
I would much rather have seen an IMPROVEMENT to Bounty Hunters (which are supposed to be some of the most feared individuals in the SW universe, but can be taken out by most melee in-game, it seems) rather than this change, which basically tells us "Bounty Hunters need to stack other skills on top of their own (e.g. Pistoleer/Rifleman/CH) to be effective".
This is akin to putting a band-aid on a broken arm.
I'm sure the "Combat Rebalance" is going to be brought up by the devs in response to this, but frankly, this first step doesn't bode well at all for the future.
-Ben
JediNewb
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:02 pm
#62
Anyways, remember, EVERYBODY in game pays to play, not just Bounty Hunters. The game cannot be designed solely for one group.
Everyone pays to play, but that doesn't mean it should be EASIER. What, should they change Ranger to only require Hunting IV so people can dabble morethere too?
Seriously, with this change they have basically said that BH is worthless on its own.
Message Edited by JediNewb on 07-06-2004 02:09 PM
Malicious1
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:08 pm
#63
/find trainer no longer points jedi to a dam force trainer...good freekin job soe....gotta love these #$%#$%#$%#%$%#$%#$
mmaughme
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:27 pm
#64
I'm starting to wonder, is Sony trying to kill off the game? I just don't get this whole BH change. It doesn't make sense. And as far as Jedi go, I'm no longer interested in even pursuing it, given the dozens and dozens of them I see running around all over the place now. The Jedi mystique is gone. I've killed 300 thugs or so, and found only one piece of loot for my chosen loot kit (the orange rug). I've spent probably 20 hours flying around Tatooine and haven't found a single spawn for the hermit quests. I'm trying real hard to figure out where the fun went.
Darius2
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:53 pm
#65
Tell you what TH, you start this thread expecting feedback; what about the feedback from the devs (or you - it is your job to act as the conduit through which the devs and gamers communicate)?
We're holding up our end of the bargain, what about you? We haven't heard anything from you in a long time regarding our issues.
Untill I see you doing your job, I'm going to stop submitting bug reports, and stopposting in your feedback threads.
I have better things to do than waste my time for someone and a company that evidently don't care.
SOE, you're pushing the game further and further down hill. When are you going to realize it? Hope its not too late for your sake.