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Thread: Friday Feature Jan 23rd Jedi Revamp

Droideengineer003
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:19 am
#573

One final thought...


If in the last 6 months a casual gamer knew how to do the path there would be no chance in heck he/she could become a Jedi...how does this work out to be a Casual Gamers Game?!?


/emote reaches for the cancel account button





This post needs more CowBell
Billreb
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:22 am
#574

Thanks Maxtarcald you just stated my entire stance against the entire idea behind grinding and powergamers, my faith has been made anew.



"The idea behind Olmec I have realized is two fold, Number 1 the relazation that sheer numbers can be beat with superior firepower. And number 2 the reckless disregard for personal safety yields results.

---Name Olmec Cantank (Charter Follower of The Celestial Order)

Wandering Poet and Gunslinger with a flame in his heart and a flamethrower on his side.
enkidu2132
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:30 am
#575

I've been holo "grinding" for *months*. Holo grinding sucks and having the path be quest related makes more sense but what about all the people who invested so much time into jumping through the holo hoops that you set up in the first place? You don't dangle a carrot in front of someone's face then right when they are about to get that carrot yank it away.


Let me put it this way - I've been playing since Beta. I put up with the bugs. I put up with the classes that were broken. I put up with the inbalances in gameplay. I put up with the game crashing with my ATI card every half hour. But if you make it so all my holo grinding was for naught and I have to start over with some new "quest" bull**edit** I will cancel my account faster than the speed of a lightsaber.
Billreb
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:32 am
#576

I have to agree, however the way I see it a lot of people are already ready to snap unless there is proper compensation for the massive time sink that was the Holos. If the devs truely are serious about this than what the need to do is either make FS a dual track system where one can go along ,mastering proffesions or take up the quest system. I recall ole Ralph saying "That no route to unlocking you Force Sensitive character would be the same. Some people might say that exploring is what helped them. others combat and some may not even know." Its time that the devs made good on that the Holos should remain a means of unlocking as well as this new quest based. Saddly I am willing to bet that Q posted that and than lefted for the week.



"The idea behind Olmec I have realized is two fold, Number 1 the relazation that sheer numbers can be beat with superior firepower. And number 2 the reckless disregard for personal safety yields results.

---Name Olmec Cantank (Charter Follower of The Celestial Order)

Wandering Poet and Gunslinger with a flame in his heart and a flamethrower on his side.
JediJamie
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:45 am
#577

Your Shooting yourselfs in the foot again Devs... but then again what's new... this is the stupidest idea you all have had yet... say goodbye to what few players you had left. because you guys are bout to lose a crap load more by doing this...



Morans !









(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)
Xeon, Jedi Knight of Chilastra
and Founder of The Light of Ossus
"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is"
BewdaBelly
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:46 am
#578

Why were TH's earlier replies in this thread removed?
Tathir
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:55 am
#579

I just really hope we can get some qualification on whether or not the method to unlocking the slot is changing and if so when will it be changed.



I have spent a signifigant amount of time busting my posterior to unlock, as in I am 7 professions away from mastering EVERY class in the game, and only one of my masteries has been a crafter prof. I do not look forward to having the method changed and being told I must now do a bunch of other stuff, all of which is some mystery that must be discerned again.







You will find...that it is you who are mistaken--about a great many things. -Palpatine
BewdaBelly
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:57 am
#580





When asked about holocrons being kept in the jedi system, TH responded with something similar to this but the post was taken down:


Yes and no.

No they most likely wont be in the new system. Yes you can keep your if you still have it. (Im keeping mine cause I save silly items


why was this yanked? Or will be given a badge and all holocrons turned to bits and pieces? Thanks for taking my shiney red wagon christmas present away, err holocron. Can we get a official response to wiether we should stop holo-grinding if we can't complete it before these changes go into effect?
MaxTarcald
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:57 am
#581






JediJamie wrote:

(snip)... say goodbye to what few players you had left. because you guys are bout to lose a crap load more by doing this...



Morans !







Are you sure about that? I'm not so sure...you may loose some PowerGamers but you will certainly not shake a majority of casual gamers that was not doing the Hologrind.


And by the way...who said that you will loose what you did????







Mir'Anda Elvo
Master Armorsmith - In vacations...

Selando Elvo - Bounty Hunter / Pistoleer - Cancelled
Max'Tarcald - Master Doctor / Master Musician - Cancelled
Tandriin
Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:49 am
#582

Did somebody know when this Patch will go live?
kingmaxxx
Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:53 am
#583




In this Thread Thunderheart told us that Holos soon will be useless (unless you count house decoration):


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=21751#M21751


Quote:

Q: Thunderheart so are you guys planning on taking the holocrons out of the game?

A:





Yes and no. No they most likely wont be in the new system. Yes you can keep your if you still have it. (Im keeping mine cause I save silly items :smile

Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Assistant Community Relations Manager







** Maxx'x of Gorath **
Weaponsmith
Oba-Quan-Makiza
Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:13 am
#584

I hope they keep the old system in place as well, there are quite a few of us that are on profession 20+ trying to achieve that slot.


If not, a lot of people are going to be mad if they have to start over from the beginning.





El's Armory, Serving the Scylla Galaxy since July 2, 2003
KOTOR MegaMall
Jor-El -- Master Armorsmith/Master Artisan/Master Merchant
Xyber_Hex
Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:27 am
#585

TELL US HOW IT IS GOING TO WORK IN PLAIN ENGLISH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE A BUNCH OF PATHETIC IGNOANT BAST*ARDS.


SO WHAT, IS EVERYONE SUPPOSED TO PUT THEIR QUEST FOR THE JEDI SLOT ON HOLD FOR ANOTHER OH SO ON TIME PATCH?


DO YOU NOT SEE HOW EVERY FREAKING STARPORT IS FULL OF PEOPLE HOCKING HOLOCRONS.


AND OH YES, YOU BETTER FREAKING BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME WAY TO PAY BACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BUSTING THEIR ASSSES GETTING HOLOCRONS AND UNLOCKING THEM AFTER YOU PEOPLE WERE THE ONES THAT SAID THAT WAS HOW TO DO IT.




I GO back to my original question to the DEV team:


WHAT IN THE NINE HELLS ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING???





Xarian Hex
Wanderer
Starsider Galaxy
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