Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
Guerlot
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:18 pm
#561
Zoveth wrote:
I know i should expect a flame for this, but im posting it anyway:
I think those of you who are doing NOTHING but whining and complaining and threatening to quit, should just quit. Maybe i'll get my visit faster.
You know good and well that if they didnt do the gating, you'd all be screaming like 2 year olds because the server crashed.
Or if they hadnt done something else then you'd be whining about that.
All i ever see is a bunch of bickering.
Just because i dont have many posts, doesnt mean im not a veteran to the game.
I have been playing this game off and on since the release.
I have yet to whine and complain about it. I take the game as it goes. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A FLIPPIN GAME!
If you guys are so miserable all the time, then shut up and find something else to play.
I never see anyone thank the devs for the hard work they put into this game.
I'd like to see every one of you make a game and make it perfect.
I've been playing mmorpg's since 97 or 98.
The devs are doing what's in the best interest of the population.
It's a shame when i log in to the forums and see GROWN ADULTS acting worse than my 9 year old.
No one has to hold your hand and guide you through the game. Accept what's happend and move on, or shut up and quit.
The game is a good game. Regardless of the little quirks, it's still fun. Otherwise you all wouldnt still be here.
Thunderheart,
Thank you for the work you and the other devs have put into the game. I for one am looking forward to the quests in their entirety and i do believe the gating is a really good idea.
Amen Zoveth! I'm with you.
Xrcon
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:19 pm
#562
TH,
The thing I cant figure out about SOE is why do you have to speak in riddles. I know you want to make this mysterious but damn why not just come out and say what you mean to say.
What I'm getting at is all this confusion about your post. You created another ____ storm b/c you are not clear in your writing.
Here is what I mean:
First erase the first 3 paragraphs, then begin your talk.
The old system required 5 hidden master box professions in order to unlock FS. As the number of jedi increased the number of hidden boxes increased.
"Although we will not be giving specific credit for the total number of professions ground, we will be giving credit for how many of the required hidden master boxes you completed."
" In other words, for those players that acquired 32 master boxes, they by default acquired the necessary 8 master boxes that unlocked their slot."
To summarize somthings here. The holo's that we players were given, gave us 4 of the master box requirements in order to unlock. So if you ended up with a silent holocron it is pretty safe to assume that you have 4 branches coming to you once you get to the village.
Notice this chart:
The credit you will receive is…
6 Force Sensitive branches will be granted
5 Force Sensitive branches will be granted
4 Force Sensitive branches will be granted
3 Force Sensitive branches will be granted
2 Force Sensitive branches will be granted
1 Force Sensitive branch will be granted
It only goes to 5 professions remaining. So if you ended up with 15 professions by the end of yesterday, how does your character fit in here? Again its not the number of professions you have mastered its the number of required master box professions you completed. If you were silent then more then likely you have 4 left to get unlock and the number of professions you completed after silent, wehter ir was some, a few or none at all went to what you were required to do. Unfortanetly the only way we will find out how many required professionswe did is whenwe get to the village and train.
So the real question we should be asking is:
If we are "glowing" we are assured the old man is going to visit us, but according to you TH, that is determined by what group we are in. So what is the goal of SOE to get everyone with "Glowing" to see the old man in terms of timeline? Is it 1 week? 1 month? or 3 days?
Do you honestly think it is fair to make someone with "glowing" wait 4 months due to traffic in the village? Why wasn't the term "glowing" used only if you were to get a visit from the old man with in 3 days? This way the population has some idea what to expect. This way a person in group 4 would not get the "glowing" message until it was there turn.
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QuintrixVanquish
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:21 pm
#563
Ithink patience is lost now, i think excuses are wasted, opinions and pages after pages
will not be listened to. SOE is a machineandWE feed it, the only way to make these people
realise what they have done is to cancel your accounts.
CANCEL if you feel let down, CANCEL if your angry at paying your monthly fees for something
your not enjoying.
Dont delete not yet a cancel button is easily turned into a re-activation button if SOE step
up andhave the Publishaltered. If not the two of my accounts that I CANCELLED 2 hours ago will stay
that way. Freedom of choice when it comes to games is a wonderful thing, you want a saber....
theres LOADS of saber games, you want action...bring on Star Wars Battlefront in 3 weeks time.
You want Role Play online...say hello to WOW...light hearted fun comes in with City Of Heroes..
Console and PC gaming is awash with quality titles and the Christmas period is creeping up, so as
we as gamers know this means more and more choice.
Im not going to moan, as some MAY like this system, I just cancelled, thank you SOE and devs for the
10 months I enjoyed, but I can only hate you for the way you took a great game.
Farewell
2 x Accounts CANCELLED.
LornKarr
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:22 pm
#564
I have been playing this game for a year and a month. During this time I have experienced in my mind the best game I have ever played up to this point. This game has made many new online friends for me and I'm glad for it. Back in December when people found out the way to jedi was to grind profs, my favorite game of all time turned into a me me me I need to be a jedi and many of my friends dissapeared. They became the dreaded hologrinders. I in fact tried hologrinding but I HATED not being with my friends playing. Hologrinding is a solo job. Yeah you may team up intially but once you get strong enough you leave and go solo for faster and more xp. I hated hologrinding and it almost ruined this game. Publish 10's announcement gave us a ray of light back in the game. Not having to grind was a good thing. Now we get it and we find we have to wait what could be weeks to reach the ability to even travel down the path of jedi. I don't know how long I'll stick around to see. I have 2 accounts renewed until almost the end of this year. WoW is coming out soon and I'm sure to go try it. For those of u unhappy take some time off try out some other games. I'm sure to do that. This game may see the problems and the dissapointment(judging from the 24 pages of post)they have created with this and make changes who knows I can only hope.
tib-infinity
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:23 pm
#565
this had to have been expected tho. people hate change.
seriously tho guys stop complaining.
You have grounds to complain if in 4 days you havn't been visited.
just wait and see. all of those who have doen laods of profs it's already been stated you will get 'fair' credit you cant complain about something you are speculating about or havn't done yet.
do it an instead of complaining suggets ways to improve it.
P.S. if anyone see's the old man tell him to stop by corellia 
fishkiLer
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:23 pm
#566
From a money making point SOE is pretty smart Make them wait dont tell them anything. From day one i have been playing and i am not even glowing 30 badges 11 profession. and i do feel Faint "also a faint sense of the farse". Also TH your communication skillz are lacking to say the least.
Ithiris
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:25 pm
#568
Get a grip!
You people talk like the end of the game is here, you could not be more wrong. What? So the old-man didn't come and sit in your lap before you even finished loading? That is no reason to start hammering the Dev team.
Now, listen up.
There are TWO ways to get visited. Yes, TWO.
First method is the old Holo Grind. Under this system of unlocking, there were four known professions you had to master, and upto four unknowns. If you found them all, you would know by now, as you would have had your message onscreen telling you you feel in tune with the force, or whatever. If this is the case, EXPECT A VISIT WITHIN 72HRS! If you managed to grind all of the known professions, and all but ONE of the unknown professions, EXPECT A VISIT WITHIN 72HRS!
If you still had 2+ Holo Professions left to grind, either unknown or known, you will be in one of the 'group's, and will have a little longer to wait. I would guess at 3 days wait per profession that you did not get, upto a maximum of FIVE profs, or 15 days.
If you didn't grind at least 3 holo profs, and therefor have more than five left out of the eight, I couldn't say what your odds were. Yes, there is no way of knowing, but to be honest, the Glowy / Badge method is so much easier. Sorry for lack of info here, but the Devs are sketchy with the details 
Now, the SECOND method.
If, like me, you have been playing the game like a addict on pure caffeine to get as many badges as possible, you may find that you have become in tune with the force. When you type /checkforcestatus you might be told 'You feel an inner glow. The Force is with you'. IF THIS IS THE CASE, EXPECT A VISIT WITHIN 72HRS!
If you are not at this point, go to the Test Centre forum, get the list of badges required and go get them ingame, it is not hard, you can be Glowy within a week of even casual gameplay, ensuring your Old Man visit within 72hrs
Stop griefing the Dev Team, this system is simple and easy, all you need is 72hrs of patience.
Dracass
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:25 pm
#569
KublaiFett wrote:
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This game is a 70's SW fans dream come true.
...
What The F'..., Over?
Did I miss somethin' here??
Aren't Blasters suppose to be the weapons of choice and not fists???
Here's an old sayin' ye should take to heart:
"There are many paths of truth,
If ye choose one and follow it blindly,
Then it becomes a falsehood and ye a fanatic."
Cafa
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:26 pm
#570
Acip wrote:
I have been playing for about 6 months and have been spending hours and hours a day for the past two weeks on the forums so I would have the latest dirt on what to do to get my "old man visit." Over the past 10 days, I have made sure I have every badge ever mentioned as being a possibility and I am pretty certain I will be "glowy" when I get home in a few hrs. I enjoy this game and I guess you could call me a power gamer considering I play at least 4-5 hrs a day.
On the other hand guys, THIS IS JUST A GAME. IT IS NOT REAL. IT MEANS NOTHING IN THE REAL WORLD.
A lot of these posts sound like people have devoted their lives forthe past year to this stupid game, which is very very sick. Those people should seriously consider therapy. Who here played the first diablo for hours and hours? That game is probibly not around anymore or if it is, no one is playing it or talking about it. The same thing will eventually happen to SWG. Then what? You will have accomplished nothing except to be able to make a statement like, "I once had this real cool character on a star wars game that no one barely even remembers." It should not be the center of your life. Anyone whose life is significantly changed by the fact that pub 10 is not exactly what they wanted shoud seek therapy.
Here is my suggestions for those of you that are "truely" upset/angry/bothered by any of this publish to the point that you think about it while you are not playing or feel strong/real life emotions:
1. seek out a good therapist (no, Im not being insulting, im being serious)
2. go outside
3. develop real/lasting relationships with people in the real world.
4. dont turn on a computer for a while, at least until 1-3 is accomplished.
Seriously guys, internet porn and computer addiction is real and they can destroy families, marriages, and relationships. There are people who are actually receiving mental health treatment for these issues. Take it seriously guys, we all need to do a self evaluation here...
You need to grow up. Passion does not necessarily mean addiction. People are passionate about sports, athletics and many other things in their lives.
Self evaluate the fact that you are essentially denegrating people that have supported this company for over a year and a half only to be told half truths time and time again.
Self evaluate the fact that you are a freaking troll, too, btw. Stay on the thread or leave.
BuroDestruct
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:26 pm
#571
1. Get rid of the Jedi profession.
2. Instead of working to "fix" the Jedi system, perhaps you can continue your efforts on producing CONTENT for this game instead of spawn-point races looking for Pirate Captains, sitting in a corner grinding out Droid Engineer, checklisting a list of POI's so you can get 40+ exploration badges, etc etc etc.
This entire Jedi business is basically ruining the game. It isn't Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles Online. I've been playing since last August and quit playing a little over 4 months ago because of the whole Holocron-mania that turned the game into a giant grind fest, but came back recently after hearing that things were "better". I've only mastered four professions in that time, and amassed maybe 60-70 badges over NINE months of playing. I didn't do it all in a day on the premise that I'd get Jedi, I did it because that was my natural progression through the game. It would be NICE to be a Jedi, but not when I'm one Jedi out of 9,000. Its not true to the canon of the Star Wars universe, and its not healthy for a PLAYER-BASED ECONOMY. I'd rather be doing Nym's Quest Park right now and mastering Brawler on my own time, but when you're dangling "Jedi" in front of my face, its hard not to go with the flow of the entire player population. I don't want to be the only guy running around Tatooine and Corellia looking for buffs and weaponsmiths while 90% of the server is choking up Dathomir, so instead of "doing my own thing" I have to do everyone else's "thing" just so I can feel SOME semblence of a player community.
Ridiculous. If you wanted to be a Jedi, go play Outcast,Academy, or KOTOR.
2. Instead of working to "fix" the Jedi system, perhaps you can continue your efforts on producing CONTENT for this game instead of spawn-point races looking for Pirate Captains, sitting in a corner grinding out Droid Engineer, checklisting a list of POI's so you can get 40+ exploration badges, etc etc etc.
This entire Jedi business is basically ruining the game. It isn't Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles Online. I've been playing since last August and quit playing a little over 4 months ago because of the whole Holocron-mania that turned the game into a giant grind fest, but came back recently after hearing that things were "better". I've only mastered four professions in that time, and amassed maybe 60-70 badges over NINE months of playing. I didn't do it all in a day on the premise that I'd get Jedi, I did it because that was my natural progression through the game. It would be NICE to be a Jedi, but not when I'm one Jedi out of 9,000. Its not true to the canon of the Star Wars universe, and its not healthy for a PLAYER-BASED ECONOMY. I'd rather be doing Nym's Quest Park right now and mastering Brawler on my own time, but when you're dangling "Jedi" in front of my face, its hard not to go with the flow of the entire player population. I don't want to be the only guy running around Tatooine and Corellia looking for buffs and weaponsmiths while 90% of the server is choking up Dathomir, so instead of "doing my own thing" I have to do everyone else's "thing" just so I can feel SOME semblence of a player community.
Ridiculous. If you wanted to be a Jedi, go play Outcast,Academy, or KOTOR.
Grammo
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:26 pm
#572
I think this guy is the only one that reads things before write replys....
TheRealWalker wrote:
OMFG
17 pages and no-one seems to have read the actual post.
To get into the village right away:
First: "Right Away" Means within 3 days. If all 2000 of us hit the village at the same, dathomir will crash. wake up.
1.) You unlocked between 9 and 10. You did it. wait for the old man.
2.) You are glowing the force is with you. You succeeded under the new system. wait for the old man.
Other folk (grinders)
If you HAVE NOT recieved the unlock message, the professions left / group thing applies to you. People who have unlocked between 9 and 10 DO NOT have to worry about credit for holo profs to get in the village. The whole group thing is for these people.
read:
No professions left: ACCESS TO village.
My GAWD can no-one read?????????
OMFG
17 pages and no-one seems to have read the actual post.
To get into the village right away:
First: "Right Away" Means within 3 days. If all 2000 of us hit the village at the same, dathomir will crash. wake up.
1.) You unlocked between 9 and 10. You did it. wait for the old man.
2.) You are glowing the force is with you. You succeeded under the new system. wait for the old man.
Other folk (grinders)
If you HAVE NOT recieved the unlock message, the professions left / group thing applies to you. People who have unlocked between 9 and 10 DO NOT have to worry about credit for holo profs to get in the village. The whole group thing is for these people.
read:
No professions left: ACCESS TO village.
My GAWD can no-one read?????????