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Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Partamers
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:56 pm
#521

/agreed

My point exactly.....did not expect to be handed anything.....wanted to start working toward being a Jedi.

Asnokat



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LordRaeVen316
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:56 pm
#522



Felinius wrote:


LordRaeVen316 wrote:
They said all along the system was organic. That means they could increase/decrease the requirements at anytime they saw fit. They were not obligated to tell us the increased it, but if people paid attention to the forums they would've been well aware of it as people have been saying that for several months that it was increased based on the statistics of who unlocked and how many professions they had to have.


'hmm, those riflemen really are doing too much damage. ok, lets drop the damage on headshot 3 by 50%. no need to tell anyone though, cause what are patch notes for anyway?'
forums a few days later: 'why is headshot 3 doing so much less damage' 'I dunno, I noticed that too. you think they ninja nerfed it?' 'guess so, not much else can explain it'
would that make it a good thing to do and a good way to do it? *communication* learn it, love it, live it





Good way to do it? Obviously not, but SOE has proven time and again this is the way they do business...



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WookBountyHunter
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:57 pm
#523

I might aswell add something to the growing amount of posts.


My Third Holo was silent and I ended up unlocking after 28 professions. This was about 2 days AFTER Pub.9 went live. So couldn't have been worse timing. Anyways I get a message telling me I will be FS after Pub. 10. Since I have some 80 Badges and have done and seen just about everything there is in this game, there wasnt much for me to do other than wait.


Well I've waited a long time now. And by the looks of it Im going to have to wait even longer still, and the fact that I wont even be a Padawan sickens me. After having grinded 28 Profs, all I will be getting is 2 Force Sensitive branches. Im sorry, but after having been "forced" to do 28 Profs to unlock the Jedi that you stated anyone could be and only being rewarded with this, is totally unacceptable.


People have unlocked by grinding under 20 Profs. These people are already Jedi Knights. I haven't even seen the old man yet!!!


Read it, analyze it, flame it. I dont care. I never post on these Forums anyway.


Ihave been a hardcore fan of this game for 1 year exactly now. And for the first time I feel like I've been screwed over !! Im pissed SOE and Im just letting you know.


Sincerely,

Pissed Off European Subscriber.
Trebs
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:57 pm
#524

First, I'm sorry to say, but I too am very disappointed with this post from TH.


I've played for over a year, had a lot of fun (no - I am not cancelling). And as part of that, I was excited to try to "unlock." But one thing I think is lost on a lot of the posts in this thread, is that there another reason than Jedi to unlock - especially with publish 10, you get a second, fully functional, character slot on the same server. I do have toons on two other servers (as well as one on Test Center) - but never use them... Scylla is my home, and as long as it is up, that's where you can find me.


But I do enjoy the game, seeing new places, experiencing new items. I've collected 95 badges, done 25 professions and yesterday realized there was no way for me to finish my 26th in time, so I just relaxed and enjoyed the rest of the evening. I had tried out TC2, read a lot of the forums and thought I knew what to expect today.


Eventually got to log in this morning and it was great - /checkforce reported that I glowed. Woot!


I wasn't able to stay on long due to work, but that was enough. I'd log in again tonight, see the old man and visit the Village, just like I did on TC2.


Now this...


So - with my 24 profs (+politician which we all know doesn't count) - I'm probably just 5 or 6 out of the 8 I never knew I needed. I mean - I suspected they raised it, but I kept hoping after each of my last few profs that "This might be the one."


But at least from my TC2 experiences and all of the forums posts I had seen, I knew that I would glow (I had the 5 content badges, the three jedi badges, at least 2 dangerous badges - actually I had all 45 POI so that was clearly done). And once I got into the Village, hopefully my 24 profs would get me 3 or 4 FS branches. I could try the quests, experience a new place....


But it's not to be. Maybe in a week - or two - or 30 from some guesses, I'll finally be in the right group to enter. I hope that isn't the week I'm on vacation or out of town.


Of course, it would be SIMPLE to send an EMAIL AT LEAST to everyone to let them know:

"We told you there would be limitations to entering the Village based on your group - you are group 2." Heck, maybe even "The reason you are group 2 is that out of your 8 professions, you have not yet mastered the following three professions: Image Design, Commando and Ranger."


You know - COMMUNICATION and INFORMATION. We know you can send an email to all players... We'd love to get one from you.





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Ex-Mayor of Haven, Corellia
Vendor: Corellia (6731, 4630): SHIPS, Components and other random stuff (numbered loot kit items for now only 5K each).
ObiNerfJohn
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:58 pm
#525

I've come up with the perfect fix. Why not bump shuttle waits up to 3 weeks so that we don't realize how bad we're getting shafted. Seriously though, if I could get a job as a Community Relations Manager and not have to relate to the community, that would be awesome. Kind of like a mailman who doesn't have to deliver mail, or a pilot who doesn't actually have to fly a plane. The lack of communication one way or the other is what's responsible for the majority of these flames.

Johnbar Edah
Tarquinas
SpaceCrazy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:58 pm
#526



Guerlot wrote:

I've been playing the game since Sept 2003. And I am telling you the same thing: Just play the game.

I did some Profession Grinding.

Now I know I qualify and I'm happy with it. I know at some point the old dude will come see me.

How many FS branches I'll get? To be honest, I hope none. I want to do the quests. It's what a RPG game is all about. I'm glad I didn't grind the crafting professions. Before clicking for hours, using a Crafting macro is really boring and is far away a RPG game.

I am seeing all the whiners right now. Who are they? Most of them are those who did 2 basillions professions and got cramps in there wrists. But think about it, did you enjoy that grinding? A RPG game is all about quests and having fun. Now you get the chance to do more quests, more content in the game and you are still Whining? Please stop those threat of cancelling and do it! That means less whiners and less lag on the servers.

I am probably the only one in all 20 pages of whining to say: Thanks Devs to give us more content in the game!





But you can't get to that content for an unspecified amount of time because you are not in the first group. I'm another that's been around since the beginning. I did no hologrinding, because I frankly thought it was stupid. I played the game the way it's supposed to be played. Pick a prof, play it, if you don't like it pick another, etc. Play it at the keyboard - no AFK playing at all. Meet other people, make friends, group hunts, etc etc etc.

I've run out of things to do, quite frankly, because there has been little content put out for the past couple of months as the focus has been on totally revamping the Jedi profession and how you get to the Jedi profession. I'm happy that there is new content for me to do. I'm not happy that I have to wait even longer to get to it because the holo-grinders are up first. A fair number of holo-grinders didn't "play" the game in any sense of the word because they did most of their grinding AFK.

People who unlocked between Pub 9 and Pub 10 should not have to wait at all, IMHO, for the Old Man to visit. As soon as they are 1k from a city, the geezer should show up and talk to them. Anyone else who feels the inner glow of the Force should get a visit soon after. I have no problem with holo-grinders getting free unlocks and free xp to fill in the FS trees. I do have a problem with everyone who has played the game the right way having to wait for their chance to get to the Village.



Mesca Phost - Scylla - Rifleman/Ranger/Pilot
Crem Darkstrider - Wanderhome - Smuggler/TK/Brawler/Pilot
Mesca' Phost - Bria - Grand Master Entertainer
(Master Ent/Music/Dance/ID)

Cancelled 7/27/05 - I joined to play Star Wars, not Jedi-BH Wars. You've ignored/gutted/abused just about every other profession in the game, while spending most of your time working on Jedi and BH as they related to Jedi. You've basically killed the game for anyone who doesn't want the glowstick. Congratulations.
Helsflame
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:58 pm
#527





radioactivewind wrote:


/salute Thunderheart


It was awesome man! Keep up the good work! Only don't forget to rise the waiting time for the old man by a few months. Nahh, it would be TOO EXCITING to meethim within the next 2-3 months. It would much MORE EXCITING to meetthat freak in a year or perhaps a little later. "Plainly awesome your group system is!" Congratulations man!!!! Keep it up!

RUIN THE WHOLE GAMING EXPERIENCE!!!

TH!!! THE FORCEHAS CLEARLY FORSAKEN YOU!!!





i see sarcasm hasn't forsaken u nice post dude(but euh i think u might have encouraged them to ectaully do that)

last question for the devs... did u go to school to make people pissed off?? just wondering since u seem to have eebn succeeding for the last what is it now?? year and a few months? gj!! couldn't have done it any better!! im sayin the graphics u can make are rather nice. But euh why do u even make an option to reply on forums?? u don't listen anyway?? so whats the trouble??



May the force be with u biwan:
light padawan
Turbanator
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:59 pm
#528

ROFL haha MOST AMOUNT OF PISSED OFF PPL IN SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME!!!! GIVE THEM A BADGE.... hmm looks like thats another badge to add on your path to becoming a pissed off non-jedi.


The Path of the Jedi: Recking of Effort



--- Rei'mo ---
KaShem
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:59 pm
#529

TH has been telling the people that unlocked between pub 9 and 10 that they have wait 1-3 days for the old man to visit. Then those in the groups below them have to wait till a portion of the inital group finishes the quests and such. So are we looking at a week until the Old man visits the next group?


If this is the case... that means those in the last group will miss out on the first phase of the Village quests. Does that mean they will have to wait till the first phase cycles around again? Or can you start the village quests during any phase?




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Jasco702
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:00 pm
#530


THUNDERHEART, I ASSURE YOU THAT OVER 1000 ACCOUNTS WILL BE UNSUBSCRIBED IN THE NEXT MONTH. THAT MEANS OVER $300,000 LOSS IN ONE YEAR.

Message Edited by Jasco702 on 08-31-2004 03:04 PM






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Walwyn
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:00 pm
#531

Dear lying liars and the liars that that they for, aka liberal Devs and SOE corporate vermin,


TH Wrote: "Of course, if you qualify under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man."


LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I qualify for a visit from the Old man. I was the first person on Dantooine today when the servers finished loading. Been on all day. Guess what, no visist....


I have also done at least 4 holo professions to boot! Did you notice my Registered Date over there to the LEFT? Oh yeah and I was in Beta.


I can say with good conscience and strong conviction you lied to us today and have lied to us on too many occassions to even make it worth a discussion over.


How do you sleep at night knowing you screw over the people that pay your company the money it pays you with?


I want my visit! Or I want my money back for the two accounts I have had for the past year of wasted time. This is a called a Bait and Switch Scam!

jkbond
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:01 pm
#532

TH has made a new thread with feedback from pub 10..well since its going to take like up to 3 days anyways to know if you'll get visited im sure, feedback will be coming back smoothly. how in the world we supposed to know which group we're in and if we'll get visited now or next week? I didn't unlock with 32 prof, but I have like 21 and I'm very curious.



Jaycon Tabef - Jedi

"War isn't supposed to be easy. It's hard and the harder the better. Maybe there would be less war if it were just a little harder."



ObidiahK3nobi
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:01 pm
#533

Jesus Christ TH, you really are never going to stop lying


I bet TH is the old man and he passed out **edit**faced somewhere.




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