Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
Ethen_Roe
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:50 pm
#508
"May I ask what I hope is a sensible question amongst all the passionate posts.....
I play on Infinity where the population is =much= smaller than most other servers. This should in theory mean that the Village and its quests will be no where near as crowded as on other servers.
Do you have the capability to advance the gating individually on different servers?
Askillian of Infinity
~ Master Armoursmith~
~ 12 Point Master - RIS Certified ~
"
Pains me to say it but i cant see the devs monitoring every server, they dont as it is. They wil lwatch one sever and adjust the rest acordingly, which is also wrong.
I think the system should be scrapped or that they should do each group over this week, days not weeks
I play on Infinity where the population is =much= smaller than most other servers. This should in theory mean that the Village and its quests will be no where near as crowded as on other servers.
Do you have the capability to advance the gating individually on different servers?
Askillian of Infinity
~ Master Armoursmith~
~ 12 Point Master - RIS Certified ~
"
Pains me to say it but i cant see the devs monitoring every server, they dont as it is. They wil lwatch one sever and adjust the rest acordingly, which is also wrong.
I think the system should be scrapped or that they should do each group over this week, days not weeks
tib-infinity
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:51 pm
#510
shouldn't the question be what happens when everyone in group 1 (finished quest or not) is offline will people ing roup 2 be allowed to give it a whirl? or what if 1 person in group 1 decides to take a holiday? do they shaft the entire community?
RenegadeRen
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:51 pm
#511
looks like im part of group 5 even though i have played and paid since day one..............just charge money for the FS SLOT damn not that hard to do...........
Morthon
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:51 pm
#512
Thunderheart wrote:
This was not healthy for the game, thus our desire to revamp this system.
And so you decide to screw those of us who played the game in manner that made it better and reward those, not once but twice, for playing the game in a way that hurt it. I dont have a problem with holo griders getting there cards punched by having trees filled, after all the harm they did was through a system you created. But why the hell should I also be thrown in line behind them. I kept the same temp, non pvp btw, for last eight months so that I could help my PA (with exception of some rotating novice skills). I was able to lead/help on hunts, harvest and mine resources, and heal the the injured. The way I chose to play made the game fun for people other than myself, unlike prof grinders, and for that I get punished.
Thanks for adding one moreinstance of "nice guys finish last."
davjac
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:51 pm
#513
I don't want to be made a jedi over night. I just want to be able to begin working towards becoming a jedi. At the moment I'm doing nothing. Even holo griniding was better than sitting around waiting.
Steagles
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:51 pm
#514
The Dev Team Discussion
I got an idea, lets make it gated to get in the village and then put 3 week stages in the village as well..Cause people loving waiting in lines to do stuff...They cant get enough of waiting in line rather if its:
1.) Driving to work during rush hour
1.) Driving to work during rush hour
2.)Driving home from work during rush hour
3.) Waiting for a table at a restaurant
4.) Waiting in line at a store
5.) waiting in a doc buff line in coronet for 45 mins
So basically you changed this game and wanted to put the Real life in it by adding rediculus time limits.
I know everyone loves waiting in lines and what a great addition adding lines into a game by devs design.
Nice Job TH
BigSteve03
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:53 pm
#515
Jaida-Chilastra wrote:
What the devs need to do is make a small apology to the players of this game. Not for any one thing, but for all the various slights and backstabs you have done to the people who pay for your jobs with this game.
1. You dangle the carrot in our faces with the profession grinding system. Increasing the difficulty because you let your default number of people unlock. Extremely unfair, without a warning to those who kept pushing for that 1 more profession, and downright dishonest a thing to do. You are the atypical mobster who forces someone to work for you and do "just one more little job". You are pathetic for this.
2. You post all over our galaxy boards telling us to come test out TC2 where the village will be on live for us. Then you turn around and include a hardcap on who is allowed to go on to work toward jedi. I recall once, a long time ago. When you guys swore you would never create any sort of cap on people getting jedi. Just what do you think this is? Is this game dying so badly you feel the need to force these types of time sinks into the game in order to keep the fee's coming in? Is it a sick twisted pleasure to toy with a community of people who haven't even been able to unlock for the past few months because you decide to fix something YOU broke with the profession grind destroying the game?
3. Worst of all. You did not warn the players about the backstabbing you would do today. You led everyone on to believe today would be the day that those who unlocked during publish 9 would get to start their path. You foul mouthed liars. Even a 24 hour notice would have been acceptable, than raising the hopes of all the players and especially those who took a day off work/school in order to do something they worked so very hard for.
These are just things that have been revealed in the past day...do you really want us start digging up all the monstrous things you have done to us in the past year for everyone to view? Something you dont seem to understand. You're jobs are to make this game fun and rewarding to us. You're jobs are not to lie to us, steal from us, cheat us, treat us like fools, forget about us, step on us, ignore us, or give us false hope. Do you hate your fan base so much that you think you shouldn't inform us when something like this happens? Are we only $$$ to you? Pull your heads out of you-know-where and talk to the people dammit!
Most eloquent thing I've read in this thread. Sums up most people's problems with this publish, and the devs and general, perfectly I thnk.
You do owe something to all the people who went out of their way to be online today for this publish. You flat out lied about how things were going to be. We are paying customers, we deserved to know about this before the patch actually went live. You may have this grand vision for how the game is supposed to be, but we're the ones who pay for it, and we deserve to know what's going on from time to time. Its time for you to put all these backdoor shenanigans to rest and treat us with a little respect for once.
RadioactiveWind
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:53 pm
#516
/salute Thunderheart
It was awesome man! Keep up the good work! Only don't forget to rise the waiting time for the old man by a few months. Nahh, it would be TOO EXCITING to meethim within the next 2-3 months. It would much MORE EXCITING to meetthat freak in a year or perhaps a little later. "Plainly awesome your group system is!" Congratulations man!!!! Keep it up!
RUIN THE WHOLE GAMING EXPERIENCE!!!
TH!!! THE FORCEHAS CLEARLY FORSAKEN YOU!!!
Otin
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:54 pm
#517
NEW NAME FOR GALAXIES!!!
Star Wars Galaxies: A Long Wait Divided
Mwhahahahaha, if I don't get to see the Old Fart in the 1-3 days that TH talked about I will be outa here until JTL.
Xaliburr
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:55 pm
#518
are you out of your damn mind devs ?
you want me to wait up to months till i can visit the village cos i actually PLAYED the game and didnt macro cheat or whatever and now im your lewser group (4) ?
ill wait exactly ONE week, then you can come up with a solution, or you show that you dont want my money
and im sure, MANY will follow me
maybe we will come back in 3 months, but maybe i found another game that is worth my money till then
you want me to wait up to months till i can visit the village cos i actually PLAYED the game and didnt macro cheat or whatever and now im your lewser group (4) ?
ill wait exactly ONE week, then you can come up with a solution, or you show that you dont want my money
and im sure, MANY will follow me
maybe we will come back in 3 months, but maybe i found another game that is worth my money till then
traxtitan
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:56 pm
#519
i know noone will see this cuz its back here but its like this
The dev's said we wont have to grind Prof's to do the trials, the devs are the ones who told us to stop hologrinding....the devs told us to trust them....so we did...
now we find out that WE (people in groups 3-4) who stoped hologrinding b/c devs said its poinltess, might have to wait up to half a year, depending on how fast/slow OTHEr players, who may not have been playing as long as us, and who ignored you and kept grinding profs finish there quests ? ....
So we get punished for listening to you, the devs...
nice one, the funny things is, I am willing to wait, but this game prbobably wont even be around by the time group 4 people start trials
The dev's said we wont have to grind Prof's to do the trials, the devs are the ones who told us to stop hologrinding....the devs told us to trust them....so we did...
now we find out that WE (people in groups 3-4) who stoped hologrinding b/c devs said its poinltess, might have to wait up to half a year, depending on how fast/slow OTHEr players, who may not have been playing as long as us, and who ignored you and kept grinding profs finish there quests ? ....
So we get punished for listening to you, the devs...
nice one, the funny things is, I am willing to wait, but this game prbobably wont even be around by the time group 4 people start trials
Salvan_Soulcutter
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:56 pm
#520
I have played the game since launch and never even tried the hologrind because it felt more like a chore then it did a game. Then SOE told me that eventhough i stuck with a few profs that i found fun i would still have a chance at being a jedi.However the day finaly comes when they unvail there new system and i am told i have to wait for 3 other groups of people to get invited and go through the Village. Yet the devs havent even mentioned how long this should take. To start the Village Phases are Time gated because even the Test Servers couldnt handle the large influx of people to one area of the server(Maybe you should of taken the Hint) So lets crunch numbers I think the JustG said the village is on a 3 week phase timer so this means to get your 6 Branches you will need to wait for 5 phases to pass or 15 weeks if it is on a 3 week timer. Now those of us who didnt will have to wait for groups 1-3 to get invited and due there entry quest. Now TH said it will take 1-3 days for the Old man to Visit people once there group comes up so lets say on average each groups takes about 3 days for a Majority of a group to get through the village so the devs can start the next group.
This means it will be Group one will start 6 days from now Group 2 12 Group 3 18 and Group 4 24 Also meaning the Village should be entering phase 2 by the time Group 4 is finaly gated
add this all up it should take 18 weeks for Group 4 to becomeFS or roughly 126 days or a little over 1/3 of a year
Now for a little more Food for thought what happens each time a new phase rolls around will we all be gated again so the devs can keep the servers stable?
Now as a Person who has been here since launch this only angers me because i am being treated like a second class citiizen those who supposdly were hurting the game by hologrinding should go first but there being given an exceptional gift. Were as those of us who didnt want the grind are being told we have to wait longer to access content because someone decided to switch profs more often. What angers me more is the devs knew they were going to have to do this and said nothing until today.
On a small closing note does anyone feel that this game is starting to be reminiscent of a Trip to the DMV with the take a number and wait plan
Oh well just some food for though